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anything wrong with an Allison Bass Boat?
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02/13/12 10:43 PM
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Rob Lay
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They look great, fast, supposedly handle rough water good, and they seem to be laid out nice (potty included!). What am I missing, same price as a 521?
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Re: anything wrong with an Allison Bass Boat?
[Re: Rob Lay]
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02/13/12 10:52 PM
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Brian Muirhead
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Fastest production hull on the market. IMO. Is that a headlight on the front of that boat?
WEAR YOUR FLIPPIN LIFE JACKET
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Re: anything wrong with an Allison Bass Boat?
[Re: Rob Lay]
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02/13/12 10:58 PM
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HasBen
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I have a XB21 with a 300XS. Drop me a PM if you have any questions.
"We have to stay woke. Like everybody needs to be woke. And you can talk about if you're the wokest or woker, but just stay more woke than less woke”. Kamala Harris (2017)
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Re: anything wrong with an Allison Bass Boat?
[Re: Rob Lay]
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02/13/12 11:07 PM
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I'll tell you whats wrong with them, they beat me to all of the good spots! I call them scary fast!
Retirement best job ever.
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Re: anything wrong with an Allison Bass Boat?
[Re: Rob Lay]
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02/13/12 11:14 PM
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elkhunter7x6
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Well for starters its missing an outboard and a trolling motor
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Re: anything wrong with an Allison Bass Boat?
[Re: elkhunter7x6]
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02/13/12 11:21 PM
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Rob Lay
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Well for starters its missing an outboard and a trolling motor LOL
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Re: anything wrong with an Allison Bass Boat?
[Re: Rob Lay]
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02/13/12 11:33 PM
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ChanceHuiet
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I can backlash toilet paper.
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Re: anything wrong with an Allison Bass Boat?
[Re: Rob Lay]
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02/13/12 11:55 PM
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brokenjeep
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I love the looks of those but my wife would never go for small of a rear deck.
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Re: anything wrong with an Allison Bass Boat?
[Re: Rob Lay]
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02/13/12 11:58 PM
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Steve187 (A.K.A. GETFISHED )
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I think they go pretty light across the scales compared to some of the other popular brands.
Have you looked at Gambler or Sterling ?
Last edited by Steve187 (A.K.A. GETFISHED ); 02/13/12 11:59 PM.
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Re: anything wrong with an Allison Bass Boat?
[Re: Rob Lay]
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02/14/12 12:00 AM
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Pitdad
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That's a beautiful rig! I had to go online and check them out. Be careful though, that on-board potty looking thing between the seats is a trash receptacle. That'd ruin that new-boat smell!
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Re: anything wrong with an Allison Bass Boat?
[Re: Rob Lay]
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02/14/12 12:04 AM
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HasBen
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If you want to go fast, Allison, Bullet, and Stroker are the way to go. Gambler/Sterling are great looking boats and very well built, but are usually not at the same level speed wise. That being said, Gamblers look fast sitting on the trailer.
"We have to stay woke. Like everybody needs to be woke. And you can talk about if you're the wokest or woker, but just stay more woke than less woke”. Kamala Harris (2017)
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Re: anything wrong with an Allison Bass Boat?
[Re: Rob Lay]
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02/14/12 12:05 AM
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Manchu
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didn't allison start out as a racing hull?
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Re: anything wrong with an Allison Bass Boat?
[Re: Manchu]
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02/14/12 12:19 AM
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HasBen
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didn't allison start out as a racing hull? Yep, Allison was a pioneer in lightweight racing hulls in the 1950's and have been involved in record setting boats ever since. Low production, extreme engineering and design, and innovation are their strengths.
"We have to stay woke. Like everybody needs to be woke. And you can talk about if you're the wokest or woker, but just stay more woke than less woke”. Kamala Harris (2017)
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Re: anything wrong with an Allison Bass Boat?
[Re: Rob Lay]
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02/14/12 12:37 AM
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JPost
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I saw one at Falcon last year that has a 300 Merc on it and I fell in love.
This is completly second hand as I've never fished out of one but I've been told they don't fish well because of lack of stability.
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Re: anything wrong with an Allison Bass Boat?
[Re: Rob Lay]
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02/14/12 12:55 AM
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Gone Shank'n
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There is a white yellow and red one that we saw several times on Amistad. My partner and I were drooling over it every time we saw it!
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Re: anything wrong with an Allison Bass Boat?
[Re: Rob Lay]
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02/14/12 01:10 AM
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just got back from Fork fishing from my friends allison.Awesome boat,handles water very well and hauls azz.
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Re: anything wrong with an Allison Bass Boat?
[Re: Rob Lay]
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02/14/12 01:14 AM
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Brandon Dickenson
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nothing wrong with them, but I am not a fan.
Always thought they looked more like a space shuttle than a boat.
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Re: anything wrong with an Allison Bass Boat?
[Re: JPost]
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02/14/12 01:23 AM
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Tick...
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Back in the day (80s) I believe Allison bass boats had tunnel hulls .
When in doubt set the hook..Retie often
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Re: anything wrong with an Allison Bass Boat?
[Re: Rob Lay]
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02/14/12 01:30 AM
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I have the Bassport Pro's little brother and I've only seen one but I will own one someday.
They are not the fastest 21 foot bass boat but they are the best overall fast bass boat on the planet. I figure a 300XS like HasBen has is a high 90's or maybe 100 mph boat. His is a slightly different layout and is a couple mph's faster than the Bassport Pro.
My boat rides good in rough water and these 21 footers are supposedly much better. They also are less tippy than my 20 footer.
They will not only run away from most of the top sellers but they will turn faster and get much better fuel efficiency.
An older Allison with an older style interior layout is the XTB. Its 21 foot and much lighter than the new 21's. They quit making those in the mid 90's.
I am wrong but you can not prove it, you just believe it enough from the bottom of your heart.....
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Re: anything wrong with an Allison Bass Boat?
[Re: Rob Lay]
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02/14/12 01:33 AM
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HasBen
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I look at my Allison like you might consider a Corvette or Viper. They are somewhat of a compromise, but you will never forget the first time you drive one.
"We have to stay woke. Like everybody needs to be woke. And you can talk about if you're the wokest or woker, but just stay more woke than less woke”. Kamala Harris (2017)
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Re: anything wrong with an Allison Bass Boat?
[Re: 203 CHAMP]
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02/14/12 01:39 AM
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Rob Lay
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just got back from Fork fishing from my friends allison.Awesome boat,handles water very well and hauls azz. how would you say your 521 is better? more stable? more durable? easier to fish out of?
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Re: anything wrong with an Allison Bass Boat?
[Re: HasBen]
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02/14/12 01:41 AM
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Rob Lay
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I look at my Allison like you might consider a Corvette or Viper. They are somewhat of a compromise, but you will never forget the first time you drive one. I'm disappointed then, I was looking more for a Ferrari. :D;):D
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Re: anything wrong with an Allison Bass Boat?
[Re: Rob Lay]
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02/14/12 01:41 AM
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Brandon Dickenson
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just got back from Fork fishing from my friends allison.Awesome boat,handles water very well and hauls azz. how would you say your 521 is better? more stable? more durable? easier to fish out of? all of the above except for speed
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Re: anything wrong with an Allison Bass Boat?
[Re: Brandon Dickenson]
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02/14/12 01:45 AM
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just got back from Fork fishing from my friends allison.Awesome boat,handles water very well and hauls azz. how would you say your 521 is better? more stable? more durable? easier to fish out of? all of the above except for speed all true
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Re: anything wrong with an Allison Bass Boat?
[Re: Rob Lay]
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02/14/12 01:47 AM
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HasBen
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As I get older and the doctors says it time to sloooooooow way down and relax, I would consider a Ranger. Until then, I'll stick with the Allison. Both are great boats, just different strokes.
"We have to stay woke. Like everybody needs to be woke. And you can talk about if you're the wokest or woker, but just stay more woke than less woke”. Kamala Harris (2017)
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Re: anything wrong with an Allison Bass Boat?
[Re: Rob Lay]
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02/14/12 02:12 AM
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Bassenmyer
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You better be willing to learn how to drive a boat. It's not a sit back with a cold one and hammer it. If that boat will push the upper 80s (and I'm sure it will), you could really mess something up.
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Re: anything wrong with an Allison Bass Boat?
[Re: Rob Lay]
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02/14/12 02:13 AM
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adam_p
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I've never fished from one, but if they are anything like my Bullet the wind will blow it around more than other boats. My only complaint really. I'm assuming it would be the same since they are so light.
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Re: anything wrong with an Allison Bass Boat?
[Re: Rob Lay]
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02/14/12 02:20 AM
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Kens3313
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Dont some of the allison bass boats have an inboard motor?
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Re: anything wrong with an Allison Bass Boat?
[Re: Rob Lay]
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02/14/12 03:00 AM
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KSalcedo222
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Re: anything wrong with an Allison Bass Boat?
[Re: Rob Lay]
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02/14/12 03:11 AM
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I want the xb bassport 2+2 bad.
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Re: anything wrong with an Allison Bass Boat?
[Re: Rob Lay]
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02/14/12 03:28 AM
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Ken A.
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Oh yes.... The Allison bassboat. There is really no other bassboat in the same category with an Allison bassboat. I have owned two of them. One was their XB2002 which is the 20' 2" bass hull that holds most of the world speed records with outboard motors in almost every horsepower class. I saw one run over 60 with a 90 Honda 4 stroke. All you have to do is Google Bassboat Speed Records and you will quickly see what I am talking about.
Ben, I would say it is the Ferrari or Lambo or the lake with regard to bass rigs anyway. The Bullet is like a Vette or Viper in my opinion. Allys are sleek, sexy, and fast as all get out. Properly set up the XB2002 will run in excess of 100 mph with a STOCK Merc 250 ProXS. You will of course need Merc's Sportmaster gearcase in a 1.62 gear but it is the same price as the other Torquemaster gearcase.
They will also shock you with their ride quality. For being a lightweight all hand-built hull they ride Amazingly well. They are expensive. This is not just a "hand laid" hull. It is truly an all "hand made" hull. There is a difference. They also utilize the very latest in resins and glass mat technologies. This allows them to use much less resin to bond the glass mats together and still obtain the structural strength it takes to withstand 100+ mph speeds across the water.
The downside of an Ally XB2002 is their fishability. The wind blows you around like a kite. The boat is very tippy at rest. If your 300# partner jumps from one side of the back deck to the other really quick, it pitches the boat pretty badly. The storage is pretty sparse on this hull as well.
The boat pictured above is the XB21 and is a much better fishing boat than the XB2002 and has remedied many of the shortcomings such as lack of storage, lack of interior space, stability at rest, and amenities. But this comes at a price. The XB21 is not nearly as fast as the smaller, narrower XB2002 and by a wide margin. The XB21 is an extremely good compromise for the guys that want something different than the cookie cutter bass rigs on the market with superior performance. Speeds from the XB21 should be right on par with the Bullet 21's.
Allisons have long set the bar for Ultra High Performance with an outboard and will continue to do so. However they are not for everyone. And yes, you do have to drive them but what boat don't you have to drive once they exceed 80 mph??
I for one, Love em! I will own another one day....
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Re: anything wrong with an Allison Bass Boat?
[Re: HasBen]
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02/14/12 03:29 AM
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Ken A.
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As I get older and the doctors says it time to sloooooooow way down and relax, I would consider a Ranger. Until then, I'll stick with the Allison. Both are great boats, just different strokes. Well said Ben
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Re: anything wrong with an Allison Bass Boat?
[Re: Rob Lay]
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02/14/12 04:00 AM
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An Allison has to be experienced to be appreciated, the build quality is unbelievable. The fit and finish of my XB2003 blows any other brand I have ever seen out of the water.
The boat you pictured the XB21 is the cadillac ctsv or what ever that fast 4 door caddy is called of the bassboat world.
There are some really neat innovations on that boat as well, like built in head lights and telescoping graph mount in the bow panel. It sits flush in the panel or telescopes up for better view and access to menus while fishing, wish I had that on mine!!
I absolutely love my boat,but it's not for everyone mine is laid out much different than the one you pictured though.
I would suggest getting on the Allison owners forum and trying to find some to take you fishing in one if you are really interested. The Allison community is great, some of the most out going boaters I have met. It shouldn't be hard to find someone willing to take you fishing on one, that would be the best way to see for yourself.
I would really like to have an XB21 one day, and I would absolutely buy another Allison product again.
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Re: anything wrong with an Allison Bass Boat?
[Re: Ken A.]
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02/14/12 04:15 AM
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KSalcedo222
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Oh yes.... The Allison bassboat. There is really no other bassboat in the same category with an Allison bassboat. I have owned two of them. One was their XB2002 which is the 20' 2" bass hull that holds most of the world speed records with outboard motors in almost every horsepower class. I saw one run over 60 with a 90 Honda 4 stroke. All you have to do is Google Bassboat Speed Records and you will quickly see what I am talking about.
Ben, I would say it is the Ferrari or Lambo or the lake with regard to bass rigs anyway. The Bullet is like a Vette or Viper in my opinion. Allys are sleek, sexy, and fast as all get out. Properly set up the XB2002 will run in excess of 100 mph with a STOCK Merc 250 ProXS. You will of course need Merc's Sportmaster gearcase in a 1.62 gear but it is the same price as the other Torquemaster gearcase.
They will also shock you with their ride quality. For being a lightweight all hand-built hull they ride Amazingly well. They are expensive. This is not just a "hand laid" hull. It is truly an all "hand made" hull. There is a difference. They also utilize the very latest in resins and glass mat technologies. This allows them to use much less resin to bond the glass mats together and still obtain the structural strength it takes to withstand 100+ mph speeds across the water.
The downside of an Ally XB2002 is their fishability. The wind blows you around like a kite. The boat is very tippy at rest. If your 300# partner jumps from one side of the back deck to the other really quick, it pitches the boat pretty badly. The storage is pretty sparse on this hull as well.
The boat pictured above is the XB21 and is a much better fishing boat than the XB2002 and has remedied many of the shortcomings such as lack of storage, lack of interior space, stability at rest, and amenities. But this comes at a price. The XB21 is not nearly as fast as the smaller, narrower XB2002 and by a wide margin. The XB21 is an extremely good compromise for the guys that want something different than the cookie cutter bass rigs on the market with superior performance. Speeds from the XB21 should be right on par with the Bullet 21's.
Allisons have long set the bar for Ultra High Performance with an outboard and will continue to do so. However they are not for everyone. And yes, you do have to drive them but what boat don't you have to drive once they exceed 80 mph??
I for one, Love em! I will own another one day....
And that's why I summoned Ken A. Lol. Thanks big bro.
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Re: anything wrong with an Allison Bass Boat?
[Re: Rob Lay]
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02/14/12 04:50 AM
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I use to see Ken run that Allison around Fork Back in the 90's. That Merc Drag motor or whatever it was called would scream and throw a rooster tail for half a mile. He took the cowling off the motor for some of us there at Oakridge to look at after loading up. I got drool all over it. That was one neat set-up. Ken, what was your top speed in that thing?
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Re: anything wrong with an Allison Bass Boat?
[Re: Gone Shank'n]
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02/14/12 12:09 PM
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SkinnyT
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There is a white yellow and red one that we saw several times on Amistad. My partner and I were drooling over it every time we saw it!
He`s from Amarillo. Several Allison boats in the Amarillo area.
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Re: anything wrong with an Allison Bass Boat?
[Re: bsouth401]
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02/14/12 12:53 PM
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Ken A.
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I use to see Ken run that Allison around Fork Back in the 90's. That Merc Drag motor or whatever it was called would scream and throw a rooster tail for half a mile. He took the cowling off the motor for some of us there at Oakridge to look at after loading up. I got drool all over it. That was one neat set-up. Ken, what was your top speed in that thing? Ahh the good old days.... Depending on the setup for that day it would run in excess of 115 with the big prop unloaded. The treehuggers have killed all the hot Merc Racing motors. I hate this. In 1995 you could go to a Merc Racing dealer and buy a 2.5 Drag motor that made 325 hp @ 9,0000 rpms on 110 octane race fuel.
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Re: anything wrong with an Allison Bass Boat?
[Re: brokenjeep]
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02/14/12 01:05 PM
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Bass&More
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I love the looks of those but my wife would never go for small of a rear deck. neither would my she likes a large deck in the back
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Re: anything wrong with an Allison Bass Boat?
[Re: Rob Lay]
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02/14/12 02:24 PM
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rxkid2001
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Wouldn't that boat be hard to maneuver around places like fork? You sit so low in it. I like to sit up so I can avoid stumps easier while idling.
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Re: anything wrong with an Allison Bass Boat?
[Re: Rob Lay]
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02/14/12 04:57 PM
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AgSellers04
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The 100mph bass boat... nuff said.
PBs LMB- 11 lbs., 7 oz. Falcon Striper- 40 lb. Long Is. Sound BlueCat- 30 lb. Texoma Hybrid-8.2 lb. Lewisville Cutthroat Trout-22" Yellowstone R, WY Rainbow Trout- 21" Blitzen R, OR Steelhead- 8 lb. Umpqua R, OR Redfish-20 lb. Panama C. Bay, FL
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Re: anything wrong with an Allison Bass Boat?
[Re: Rob Lay]
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02/14/12 06:10 PM
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200Hawk21
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Probably need to be careful at high speeds with that boat, if you hit a wake wrong you may end up in the next county.Houston, we have liftoff.
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Re: anything wrong with an Allison Bass Boat?
[Re: Rob Lay]
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02/14/12 06:16 PM
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JustWingem
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AllisonBass Boats FIRSTS
1962 Darris took a mold his Dad had discarded and built a 13′ fishing boat. He later added a 14′ and 16′ model which he built up until 1969. 1962 1st pedestal seat for bass boat 1970 Darris built the first deep V pad bass boat an experimental 15′ tunnel a walk-thru windshield V bottom ski boat 1971 The walk-thru windshield boat was built with stern drive engines 1972 First tri-hull V-bottom 15′ became the most popular and most copied in the world 1973 First tri-hull V-bottom 17′ 1974 First pod tunnel which later became a mod VP style racing boat. This boat set a speed record of 73 mph with an 80 hp motor in 1974. 1975 Received first patent on outboard hull design 1975 1st V hull bass boat to break 100 mph with a single engine (two way average speed) 1970′s 1st set back jack plate 1970 1st all molded interior V-bottom pad bass boat 1972 1st offset transom 1972 1st in designing the modern layout for bass boats 1972 1st transducer box for depth finders 1972 1st center mounted remote Control livewell 1975 1st single engine outboard to break 100 mph pleasure boat 1985 1st no rot construction in hull 1986 1st flippin deck bass boat 1986-87 1st steel reinforced no rot transom mid-80′s 1st power trim in wheel w/concealed wiring mid-90′s 1st side slide seat adjustment for driver 1994 1st top cable foot throttle
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Re: anything wrong with an Allison Bass Boat?
[Re: Rob Lay]
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02/14/12 06:35 PM
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i drove a xb prosport with a 250 pro xs. SWEEEET ride. drove in some rough water too. handled as good as anything i've been in.
ran 87mph at wot. (not superfast) but, with a 27p hydromotive it handled and accelerated extremely well. i was also very suprised as allison thought of almost everything on that boat. the entire passenger console lifted up to expose the largest glove box i've ever seen. too much to look at on that boat. it's just plain ole awesome.
and allison is #1 in most man hours during a boat build. 100% all hand laid BOAT!!! (not just hull)
and yeah. ken is very knowledgable bout them fast boats. he tought me how to handle them. thanks ken.
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Re: anything wrong with an Allison Bass Boat?
[Re: rxkid2001]
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Wouldn't that boat be hard to maneuver around places like fork? You sit so low in it. I like to sit up so I can avoid stumps easier while idling. the only problem I can think of is light boats idle pretty fast. You can idle up and get hung on a stump before you know it.
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Re: anything wrong with an Allison Bass Boat?
[Re: Rob Lay]
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Ken, after driving that Allison at 115 mph, what does it feel like to slow down to around 75 mph in a Legend. I on the other hand, am trying to speed up to 75 mph so I don't know what 75 mph feels like yet.At 115mph. I would suspect that all tackle not nailed down would no longer be in your boat along with any passengers that that you didn't like.
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Re: anything wrong with an Allison Bass Boat?
[Re: Rob Lay]
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When I'm doing a hundred, I prefer to be in my vette.......73 in a Z520 is plenty fast enough.
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Re: anything wrong with an Allison Bass Boat?
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Allison is 3 syllables, Ranger is only 2. I like that. Ranger is for me 'cause I'm just an ole putz. Plus, IMO your butt looks bigger in a Allison.....
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Re: anything wrong with an Allison Bass Boat?
[Re: 200Hawk21]
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Ken, after driving that Allison at 115 mph, what does it feel like to slow down to around 75 mph in a Legend. I on the other hand, am trying to speed up to 75 mph so I don't know what 75 mph feels like yet.At 115mph. I would suspect that all tackle not nailed down would no longer be in your boat along with any passengers that that you didn't like. i'll put the other seat in mine and take ya for a ride.
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Re: anything wrong with an Allison Bass Boat?
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Ken, after driving that Allison at 115 mph, what does it feel like to slow down to around 75 mph in a Legend. I on the other hand, am trying to speed up to 75 mph so I don't know what 75 mph feels like yet.At 115mph. I would suspect that all tackle not nailed down would no longer be in your boat along with any passengers that that you didn't like. i'll put the other seat in mine and take ya for a ride. Do what I do Steve... Hit the gas, close your eyes and start sawing at the wheel!!! LOL!!!!
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Re: anything wrong with an Allison Bass Boat?
[Re: Rob Lay]
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I owned a 70 model with an evenrude 150. The hull was 600 lbs soaking wet. It would fly across the water and if you came out of a cove into a cross wind watch out its going to turn sideways with you. My wife will not get in a boat anymore because of her experience in the Allison. The older ones were a no mistake boat but they are fast.
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Re: anything wrong with an Allison Bass Boat?
[Re: Rob Lay]
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Have had several Champions, four Bullets and now have had our Allison for a couple years...XB21 BasSport. While the others were great... you will absolutlely love an Allison. Great rough water boat and easy to fish out of. Although, we ocasionally pass some good fishing holes cause we are loving the ride. Worth the money!!! Gig 'Em.
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Re: anything wrong with an Allison Bass Boat?
[Re: Rob Lay]
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took Merc 280 off of 21' Bullet, put on 21' Allison, Allison went 7mph faster than Bullet
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Re: anything wrong with an Allison Bass Boat?
[Re: Rob Lay]
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I owned a XB2003 for about 4 years. Had a 260hp Merc EFI and would fly!. I agree with everything Ken A. said and have one other thing to add. My boat did not have the Tournement Hull which was thicker and added extra weight to the hull. The problem with this was fishing in Texas there are a bunch of stumps in most lakes and with the thinner hull it was not a good thing. After knocking 3 holes in the bottom of the boat on 3 different occasions, one of which while only under the trolling motor power and getting stuck on a stump at Fork, I decided to get rid of it. My boat insurance was going to be cancelled due to 3 claims. If you can avoid fishing in the stumps then a Allison is a awsome boat. I am not sure if the new XB21 has a thicker hull or not. I would love to have another one someday even after all the fiberglass work I had done, I just would be very careful with it. For now I will happy with my ole stump jumper.
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Re: anything wrong with an Allison Bass Boat?
[Re: Rob Lay]
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Well, I like a few others here have an XB2003, not the XB21 Bassport Pro pictured in the OP.
What's wrong with them? Everyone stops you and wants to know how fast does it run. No one ever asked me that in the two years I owned the Ranger R77.
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Re: anything wrong with an Allison Bass Boat?
[Re: hvtexskeeter]
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02/15/12 10:37 PM
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I owned a XB2003 for about 4 years. Had a 260hp Merc EFI and would fly!. I agree with everything Ken A. said and have one other thing to add. My boat did not have the Tournement Hull which was thicker and added extra weight to the hull. The problem with this was fishing in Texas there are a bunch of stumps in most lakes and with the thinner hull it was not a good thing. After knocking 3 holes in the bottom of the boat on 3 different occasions, one of which while only under the trolling motor power and getting stuck on a stump at Fork, I decided to get rid of it. My boat insurance was going to be cancelled due to 3 claims. If you can avoid fishing in the stumps then a Allison is a awsome boat. I am not sure if the new XB21 has a thicker hull or not. I would love to have another one someday even after all the fiberglass work I had done, I just would be very careful with it. For now I will happy with my ole stump jumper. I have an xb2003, I fish in very stump laden areas with lots of sandbars too, I am constantly bouncing the boat off of stumps, my hull looks brand new. Allisons are light but they are strong, the weight savings comes from being handbuilt and removing extra unneeded resins, not nessisarily a thinner hull. A bassracer or a 2002 comp might have issues in stumps but I wouldn't benafraid with any 2003, and especially not with the xb21 he's looking at.
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Re: anything wrong with an Allison Bass Boat?
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Allison's are neat boats but they are a far cry from being the perfect bass boat, if they were so great all the pros would be running them, basically they are a race boat with a trolling motor mounted on the bow. I wish I had a bunch of money so I could own one of them along with a regular bass boat, dream on.
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Re: anything wrong with an Allison Bass Boat?
[Re: Rob Lay]
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There is no "perfect" bass boat. If there is one, please let us know so we can call all other boats pretenders.
I would like an Allison when the key is turned to the run position. When its in the off position I'd like a Ranger.
My boat has been on stumps since I've owned it. A few gel coat problems on the back edge from rocks but other than that its tough. I saw an Allison boat with a 7 foot gash in the bottom once. It had come to rest on the top of an oyster reef in Virginia. The motor had sheared the lower unit off. The steel transom was not damaged. The gash and gel coat damage still did not let any water in the boat. The bottom of an Allison has a poly core sandwiched between different composites. Very sturdy and light.
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Re: anything wrong with an Allison Bass Boat?
[Re: Allison1]
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02/16/12 07:17 AM
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There is no "perfect" bass boat. If there is one, please let us know so we can call all other boats pretenders.
I would like an Allison when the key is turned to the run position. When its in the off position I'd like a Ranger.
My boat has been on stumps since I've owned it. A few gel coat problems on the back edge from rocks but other than that its tough. I saw an Allison boat with a 7 foot gash in the bottom once. It had come to rest on the top of an oyster reef in Virginia. The motor had sheared the lower unit off. The steel transom was not damaged. The gash and gel coat damage still did not let any water in the boat. The bottom of an Allison has a poly core sandwiched between different composites. Very sturdy and light.
very true about "no perfect bat" it all depends on who you ask and what they want to get out of their boat. for tourney fishing i loved my single console skeeter, gf hated it. i stopped tourney fishing for a while and got a skeeter fish and ski, she liked it better and it was a decent "party boat" but it fished like [censored]. the huge windsheild was a pitb, rod lockers would only fit two peice rods etc etc. So i bought an xb2003 because it fished better than that skeeter and i could still run the river with friends, the g/f loves the ally doesn't want me to get rid of it, although i have been kicking around getting a xdc bullet or a stroker since i've been tourney fishing again, but it's a hard decision, I'm having a hard time making my mind up, i love the boat so much, driving it is the most enjoyable part, and not just flat out running. just cruising at 45 or so it's the smoothest boat i've ever been in if they just made an xb2003 hull with a normal duel console layout there wouldn't be a better 20'er. the xb21's are awesome from what i've seen though
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Re: anything wrong with an Allison Bass Boat?
[Re: AstaSoftride]
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02/16/12 07:20 AM
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Well, I like a few others here have an XB2003, not the XB21 Bassport Pro pictured in the OP.
What's wrong with them? Everyone stops you and wants to know how fast does it run. No one ever asked me that in the two years I owned the Ranger R77. what's really funny is more people asked me how fast my old skeeter was than do my ally, i don't think many people know what they are around here above the dam. I have a ss motor on mine, i had a guy at the dock tell me i needed to get one of those big mercuries instead of the little one i had on mine when i was undoing the trailer straps lol
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Re: anything wrong with an Allison Bass Boat?
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Allison's are neat boats but they are a far cry from being the perfect bass boat, if they were so great all the pros would be running them, basically they are a race boat with a trolling motor mounted on the bow. I wish I had a bunch of money so I could own one of them along with a regular bass boat, dream on. The pros run a certain boat because the boat manufacturer pays him to run a certain boat. KVD would fish from a Bayliner if Bayliner paid him more than Nitro. Allison is a specialty boat manufacturer much like Bullet, Stroker, or Sterling. You do not see pros in those boat either. That is because they do not have the budget to make a superior quality boat and also pay pros a lot of money to fish out of their boats. You did get one thing correct. There are no perfect bassboats. I have owned them all, and they all had shortcomings. There were things I did not like about all of them, but there were also redeeming factors in all of them. Different strokes for different folks.
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Re: anything wrong with an Allison Bass Boat?
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Well, I like a few others here have an XB2003, not the XB21 Bassport Pro pictured in the OP.
What's wrong with them? Everyone stops you and wants to know how fast does it run. No one ever asked me that in the two years I owned the Ranger R77. I have a ss motor on mine, i had a guy at the dock tell me i needed to get one of those big mercuries instead of the little one i had on mine when i was undoing the trailer straps lol I love those SS Mercs. They are becoming like dinosaurs. I had the Drag SS on my Ally 2002. Is yours the Drag motor or 280?
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Re: anything wrong with an Allison Bass Boat?
[Re: HasBen]
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Allison's are neat boats but they are a far cry from being the perfect bass boat, if they were so great all the pros would be running them, basically they are a race boat with a trolling motor mounted on the bow. I wish I had a bunch of money so I could own one of them along with a regular bass boat, dream on. The pros run a certain boat because the boat manufacturer pays him to run a certain boat. KVD would fish from a Bayliner if Bayliner paid him more than Nitro. Allison is a specialty boat manufacturer much like Bullet, Stroker, or Sterling. You do not see pros in those boat either. That is because they do not have the budget to make a superior quality boat and also pay pros a lot of money to fish out of their boats. You did get one thing correct. There are no perfect bassboats. I have owned them all, and they all had shortcomings. There were things I did not like about all of them, but there were also redeeming factors in all of them. Different strokes for different folks. I would like to add to that Ben. Darris Allison and Bill Hill (Bullet) could not care less about sponsoring bass tournaments. They are specialty boat manufacturers and sell all they can build every year, which is about 150-200 boats. Compared to Triton's 5,000 a year, it is a drop in the bucket. As you may recall Roger, I owned three Tritons and they were all good boats. But comparing a Triton with an Allison is like comparing a Camaro to a Lambo. And you're right about the best of both worlds. If I could own both it would be cool.
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Re: anything wrong with an Allison Bass Boat?
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Well, I like a few others here have an XB2003, not the XB21 Bassport Pro pictured in the OP.
What's wrong with them? Everyone stops you and wants to know how fast does it run. No one ever asked me that in the two years I owned the Ranger R77. I have a ss motor on mine, i had a guy at the dock tell me i needed to get one of those big mercuries instead of the little one i had on mine when i was undoing the trailer straps lol I love those SS Mercs. They are becoming like dinosaurs. I had the Drag SS on my Ally 2002. Is yours the Drag motor or 280? 200 supermag ss 225 front half, cut heads ecu work and some mild porting 280 drop on will prolly be next, had a guy wanting to trade me a drag along with some 280 heads for fishing for my drag car a while back but i never went through with it,
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Re: anything wrong with an Allison Bass Boat?
[Re: Ken A.]
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Allison's are neat boats but they are a far cry from being the perfect bass boat, if they were so great all the pros would be running them, basically they are a race boat with a trolling motor mounted on the bow. I wish I had a bunch of money so I could own one of them along with a regular bass boat, dream on. The pros run a certain boat because the boat manufacturer pays him to run a certain boat. KVD would fish from a Bayliner if Bayliner paid him more than Nitro. Allison is a specialty boat manufacturer much like Bullet, Stroker, or Sterling. You do not see pros in those boat either. That is because they do not have the budget to make a superior quality boat and also pay pros a lot of money to fish out of their boats. You did get one thing correct. There are no perfect bassboats. I have owned them all, and they all had shortcomings. There were things I did not like about all of them, but there were also redeeming factors in all of them. Different strokes for different folks. I would like to add to that Ben. Darris Allison and Bill Hill (Bullet) could not care less about sponsoring bass tournaments. They are specialty boat manufacturers and sell all they can build every year, which is about 150-200 boats. Compared to Triton's 5,000 a year, it is a drop in the bucket. As you may recall Roger, I owned three Tritons and they were all good boats. But comparing a Triton with an Allison is like comparing a Camaro to a Lambo. And you're right about the best of both worlds. If I could own both it would be cool. they also don't offer contingency money in large tourneys either like some manufactures.. my buddie has a tr21 we fish out of sometimes but he usually wants to take my boat out instead of his when we fish tohether, he loves riding in my boat lol.. like others have said, if i could be in a ranger or a skeeter or a triton when i had the troller down, and my ally with the ignition on you couldn't beat it..
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Re: anything wrong with an Allison Bass Boat?
[Re: Rob Lay]
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02/17/12 02:19 AM
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I know.. The way an Ally handles and accelerates with a 2.5 high rpm mota is SICK!! You just half to experience it to understand.
If they just "fished" like a Ranger they would be the "perfect" boat. LOL
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Re: anything wrong with an Allison Bass Boat?
[Re: Ken A.]
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I know.. The way an Ally handles and accelerates with a 2.5 high rpm mota is SICK!! You just half to experience it to understand.
If they just "fished" like a Ranger they would be the "perfect" boat. LOL
yup, i love my buddies 521 with the troller down, but with it up i hate it lol..
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Re: anything wrong with an Allison Bass Boat?
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I have been in a Bullet once, was pretty impressed, never been in an Ally, would love to drive one, after about 85 I would probably have to get out of it, my slow Triton has only been 79, maybe my new one will crack 80.
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Re: anything wrong with an Allison Bass Boat?
[Re: Happykamper]
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I have been in a Bullet once, was pretty impressed, never been in an Ally, would love to drive one, after about 85 I would probably have to get out of it, my slow Triton has only been 79, maybe my new one will crack 80. you'd prolly have to get out of it way before that first time out, they are a v bottom boat pretty much , not a flat pad boat like your triton. It's a way different driving experience. when it's really up on pad the whole boat feels like it's out of the water, and it pretty much is, the nose feels like it's 100' in the air even though it isn't. the first time you feel it "unlock" and jump up higher on pad you don't know what to think, it's a truely specific feel. one click of the trim can jump you 10-12 mph without any increase in throttle or rpm when you hit it, it's addicting. the acceleration is unreal, i had a little starfire with a modded motor years ago that was pretty darn quick, low 80's unloaded, and it took me a while to be able to drive my ally really well even though i had a good bit of seat time in a hydrostream too(much less motor on that one).. I learned to walk on a bass boat and have been driving my dads boats and mine all of my life, i've got well over 20 years behind the wheel of bassboats, and more than 30 riding around in them. the first time i felt an ally come out of the water, it was an eye opener. Untill you can really drive an ally, you can't really understand driving one of these boats, no amount of talk can truely explain the feeling ....
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Re: anything wrong with an Allison Bass Boat?
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allys rock. addicting is an understatement... more like a possessive power that makes you think you can rule the world with a little gas is more like it!
my norris craft some of these perks. that boat was a high rider for sure. But I've never been in any boat other than an Allison that could turn so hard (and so controlled) that you could actually crack the skeg. Yup, I've seen one cracked after a guided day of "Ranger hunting".
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Re: anything wrong with an Allison Bass Boat?
[Re: Rob Lay]
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02/22/12 11:52 PM
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after reading "lets do the math", I feel fortunate to own a BasSport. It's a pretty well known fact that the Allison MPG is better than the competition. Prolly burn the same GPH with any given motor but go more miles in that hour.
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Re: anything wrong with an Allison Bass Boat?
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02/22/12 11:59 PM
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I know.. The way an Ally handles and accelerates with a 2.5 high rpm mota is SICK!! You just half to experience it to understand.
If they just "fished" like a Ranger they would be the "perfect" boat. LOL
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