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Offshore trolling #7129662 02/04/12 03:55 AM
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I am pretty new to saltwater fishing and have done quite a bit of bottom fishing. I would like to troll for tuna,wahoo ect. And need a starting point. I have the gear and boat. What type of tackle,bait,ect and good spots of freeport, matagorda, or port oconner?
I am comfortable up to 100 miles out. Thanks!


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Kevin, your starting point is to take someone knowledgeable with you who can show you how to do these things in person.

I'll volunteer.



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Re: Offshore trolling [Re: KevinE] #7133653 02/05/12 02:38 PM
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Originally Posted By: KevinE
I would like to troll for tuna,wahoo ect. And need a starting point. I have the gear and boat. What type of tackle,bait,ect


i'd wanna know more about your boat and gear before getting into any specifics and i'd also suggest you read all you can about the art of trolling.

yes, it's an art...... there's more to it than just dragging bait behind the boat and there's a big difference between hardcore big-game sportsfishing and weekend perch-jerking

a good starting point would be to learn how to rig your gear and the lures and also learn how to rig ballyhoo

but i'm gonna jump to lure selection............

for wahoo surface trolling think big and rig with no more than 3' of S/S 49-strand cable.......




Ilanders work well with ballyhoo....... here's some rigged w/rubber hoo for marlin and tuna........



here's some tuna feathers and and other tuna lures........



both wahoo and tuna lures shown here......



spreader bars can help too for tuna...... sometimes even wahoo (but that's not the norm)
they're in the long blue packages under the big platic box.....



stuff like this will work for both wahoo and tuna too........








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don't forget about billfish and dorado......... [Re: KevinE] #7133718 02/05/12 03:00 PM
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most of those lures will not only give you a shot at billfish too but sometimes they'll entice nice dorado............

here's a pic of a friend's son on my boat with his first trophy bull.......






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Re: don't forget about billfish and dorado......... [Re: KevinE] #7134016 02/05/12 04:13 PM
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Bill, why do you prefer cable instead of singlestrand wire for wahoo? Is it just personal preference or is there a performance problem with wire?



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Re: don't forget about billfish and dorado......... [Re: Bill Fisher] #7134242 02/05/12 05:16 PM
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27' pursuit with Rupp outriggers. Penn 50vw reels and Penn tuna sticks
Still need to string them. Recommendations?
I have no gear for trolling and not real familiar on hooking it all up
Plan on fishing out of Freeport,port conner, matagorda. Any good spots to recommend? Thanks


Re: don't forget about billfish and dorado......... [Re: Bill Fisher] #7137013 02/06/12 05:37 AM
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Originally Posted By: Bill Fisher
most of those lures will not only give you a shot at billfish too but sometimes they'll entice nice dorado............

here's a pic of a friend's son on my boat with his first trophy bull.......



Damn that kid almost as good lookin as his dear old dad


Re: don't forget about billfish and dorado......... [Re: KevinE] #7137444 02/06/12 01:59 PM
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Just as important as what to troll and how to troll it is where to troll it.

Color changes, rip currents, temperature breaks, weed/trash lines, over bottom structures, near rigs, etc.

I once found a temp break that about 1 degree difference. There was no other obvious signs at the water's surface. In just a few minutes I caught a YF tuna, a dorado, and a 'hoo off of that break.

I also look for the holy trifecta...blue water, flotsam, and flying fish. If you find these three things together at the same place and time then you should probably be trolling.



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Re: don't forget about billfish and dorado......... [Re: samh] #7137909 02/06/12 04:04 PM
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Originally Posted By: samh

Damn that kid almost as good lookin as his dear old dad


i'm guessin' he musta got his looks from'is mother........... nannyboo

sarcastic



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welcome KevinE to the forum! You will certainly get the info you need from our experts here. They have been very helpful to me throughout the years I've been here. Good luck with your fishin'.
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Originally Posted By: Bill Fisher
Originally Posted By: samh

Damn that kid almost as good lookin as his dear old dad


i'm guessin' he musta got his looks from'is mother........... nannyboo

sarcastic


HEY ..... I resemble that remark cool frkazoid




Re: don't forget about billfish and dorado......... [Re: Uncle Zeek] #7139540 02/06/12 11:14 PM
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Originally Posted By: Zeek the Greek
Bill, why do you prefer cable instead of singlestrand wire for wahoo? Is it just personal preference or is there a performance problem with wire?



Hoo Teeth -vs- Mono



Re: don't forget about billfish and dorado......... [Re: KevinE] #7162240 02/12/12 04:56 PM
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To speed up the learning curve, bit the bullet one time and hire a guide, watch and learn and ask lots of questions. Did this with my boys when we first started going to Rockport and it provided lots of good and quick info to a family of freshwater fisherpeople!! (wife was along too).
I am sure the folks on here could recommend a good guide for you.


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