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Re: Snake Infestation is Inevitable (Just got this in an e-mail)
[Re: KG68]
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09/03/11 01:59 PM
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Cottonmouth are not as rare as been said. They are along most any creek bed. Especially those with water. They float on top of the water when they swim, verses the watersnake whose body will be under water but their heads will be above water when they swim. I've seen them often in finger channels of Richland Chambers.
I see said the blind man to the deaf dog
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Re: Snake Infestation is Inevitable (Just got this in an e-mail)
[Re: 1 link stringer]
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09/03/11 02:17 PM
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AgSellers04
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My dad got bitten by a rat snake in the back yard around this time last year. Scared him more than hurt him he jumped higher than I knew he could. Pretty comical actually. Just thankful it wasn't a copperhead.
Then the next day my dog sniffed out a snake, dont know if it was the snake, and killed it.
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Re: Snake Infestation is Inevitable (Just got this in an e-mail)
[Re: AgSellers04]
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09/03/11 03:54 PM
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CENTEX Toad Hunter
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I've been fortunate. Lived in Texas for over 15yrs and have never seen a rattlesnake in the wild. I fear from the report I just read at the top of this thread, this might be my year. I hope I ONLY SEE one!
"If you've quit learn'n, you might'as well quit fish'n cuz yer not catch'n as many fish as ya should be!"
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Re: Snake Infestation is Inevitable (Just got this in an e-mail)
[Re: David Parker]
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09/03/11 07:06 PM
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BassSAT
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Re: Snake Infestation is Inevitable (Just got this in an e-mail)
[Re: BassSAT]
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09/03/11 10:30 PM
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FishFearMe
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he says snake bites are less painfull than wasp sting....he not know what he say.
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Re: Snake Infestation is Inevitable (Just got this in an e-mail)
[Re: Burnetbass]
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09/03/11 10:32 PM
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FishFearMe
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The little I can add to this discussion is that it IS important to know what kind of snake you were bitten by, even if just a description.
Some of our lethal snakes carry neurotoxins, others carry a hemotoxin.
A different anti-venom is needed for each type.
In addition, if I remember correctly, Coral and Copperheads are only found in deciduous forests - defined by high rainfall and multiple hardwoods. In other words, forests that produce a lot of Fall colors, like East TX.
That might explain why a Hospital in Central TX wouldn't have the anti-venom for Coral snakes.
Thanks for the heads-up, OP! seen a few corals here in san antonio and farther west, pretty dry this way, had a coral on my back porch but got through a crack and under my house befor i could catch him. copperheads to, know of several bites to friends and family, lucky the copperhead bit aint to serious.
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Re: Snake Infestation is Inevitable (Just got this in an e-mail)
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09/04/11 01:20 AM
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bigjim
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he says snake bites are less painfull than wasp sting....he not know what he say. +2 . .
Jim Britton Granbury,Tx
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Re: Snake Infestation is Inevitable (Just got this in an e-mail)
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09/04/11 01:54 AM
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Jeremy S.
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Snakes don't give me the melt down as much as spiders but still not a huge fan. Got saved from a copperhead last summer by a Mexican that works for me. Dude was FAST with a machete because this thing came out of the cattle guard at my boot and Juan saw him coil up or whatever they do right before he struck and took his head off.
I bought that guy a lot of lunches for a while.
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Re: Snake Infestation is Inevitable (Just got this in an e-mail)
[Re: Jeremy S.]
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09/04/11 06:44 AM
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ditkarulz
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Coral snakes are in the cobra family and while their fangs aren't as developed as their cousins they have the most toxic venom of any snake in the US. They are rear fixed fanged snakes which means they need to get a really good mouthful to inject venom. Anti-Venom starts around $10K a vial and it usually takes several to save someone. Don't mess around with a unidentified snakes.
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Re: Snake Infestation is Inevitable (Just got this in an e-mail)
[Re: ditkarulz]
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09/04/11 03:53 PM
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SheldonS
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It would be very rare to get bitten by a coral snake.
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Re: Snake Infestation is Inevitable (Just got this in an e-mail)
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09/04/11 05:20 PM
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joe barton
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Dont know about other counties, but Coryell County(Central Texas) has it's share of copperheads County Ag. Guys are telling everyone, that the rattlesnake has gotten to where it does'nt rattle as much, they are saying that it is being caused by the overpopulation of wild hogs (hogs will eat snakes), and they are striking without ratteling My cousin across the road has killed 3 this year, and none of them have rattled
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Re: Snake Infestation is Inevitable (Just got this in an e-mail)
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09/04/11 06:22 PM
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Choogie Chunker
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On of the largest timber rattlers I have ever seen was 6' long and at least 14" around his middle. He was hit by a car just ahead on me as he tried to cross a road. He had no rattles at all. He couldn't have rattled if he'd wanted to. I was told the rattles get softened sometimes because the snakes like to stay under rotted logs in the bottom land where they normally live, and the moisture will soften the normally shell-like rattles. Then when the snake crawls under or thru something tight fitting the rattles will break off. This would seldom happen with drier climate rattlers like prairie or diamondbacks. It would make for a very dangerous situation to come upon one of these, not see him because of the cover, and even if he was shaking his tail like crazy no sound was made.
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Re: Snake Infestation is Inevitable (Just got this in an e-mail)
[Re: SheldonS]
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09/05/11 03:22 AM
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I stepped over the largest copperhead I have ever seen on the end of a dock at pier 21 marina about 15 years ago. It was so large and out of place I thought it was rubber. I worked for a few minutes on the sailboat and when I started past it coming back in , it moved. We were a good 70 yards from the land. I told the marina operator about it and he proceeded to tell me they don't go in water and would not be where I said ever. As I was loading my tools in the truck I could here the screaming from the same guy that said I was stupid. He was yelling for his helper to get a hoe or shovel, there was a G D copperhead on the dock.
The copperheads often get discounted as they are only considered lethal for smaller humans around 70 lbs and under. That doesn't do any good for kids or pets.
I remember after the floods from Hurricane Carla , everyone in the neighborhood was finding snakes in the houses. There was simply no dry ground. Still gives me the willies thinking about it.
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Re: Snake Infestation is Inevitable (Just got this in an e-mail)
[Re: Carver]
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09/06/11 02:44 AM
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Larry in Tawakoni
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What kind of snake likes to be in the dirt.. kinda like a worm? I have seem several babies around my house about 6" long when I was tilling up my garden... but havent been able to catch one to identify it. From the glimpses I have gotten, they are dark greyish and maybe a lighter belly.... I know mama has to be around but havent seen her yet.
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Re: Snake Infestation is Inevitable (Just got this in an e-mail)
[Re: FishFearMe]
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09/07/11 02:29 PM
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Lance Vick
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he says snake bites are less painfull than wasp sting....he not know what he say. this guy as never been bitten by a copperhead.................... I would taken many many wasp stings in trade for the copperhead bite
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