you get alot of first time posters on these kinda threads. here we go!!!!!

+1 and why did the Elite guys not get asked back to Falcon? I mean they did break almost every record in fishing including killing a ton of fish. It happens yes we try not to but it when the water warms up they are hard to keep alive and yes alot die after everyone is gone home after a tourney.

i think 10 percent is a realistic delayed mortality rate, 30-40 is really high. no evidence, just agenda...

I will say this: the wife and i fished together,we both caught keepers all day long (over 14 inches ),we caught around 25 keepers a piece all day.About every other fish had a hole where a cull ring had been on them.We were fishing the old side.The weigh in was on the new side,and alot of fish caught there to.We usually dont fish this lake until the very hot summer time.
The wife had a 3 fish limit and won stringer and had big bass with a 7.76 and won it,i had 10 pounds with a 5 pound kicker.
and didnt place.There were some 6' pounders weighed in also.
In my opinion tournaments are not hurting this lake at all.
Just my 2�

Very very few fish die if they swim away from the ramp just fine. i still believe i have never had a fish die in a tournament, i may be crazy but this is what i believe.

I wish You were right. You have no idea how much that I wish You were correct but I just don't think that's the case.

Why don't they tag and track all fish caught and weighed in to see how many die on average instead of guessing and speculating?

Sounds like time for a government grant......

I thought you were a tournament angler? If so what do you do different if anything than the rest of us to take care of your fish?

+1 and why did the Elite guys not get asked back to Falcon? I mean they did break almost every record in fishing including killing a ton of fish. It happens yes we try not to but it when the water warms up they are hard to keep alive and yes alot die after everyone is gone home after a tourney.[/quote]

Pretty sure the Elites have not been back to Falcon because Zapata COC will not pony up the dough.

Pretty sure the Elites have not been back to Falcon because Zapata COC will not pony up the dough.


+1

BS is what I say Ive seen TPWD biologists that do good jobs and some that dont know squat on ranch managment. So iam sure theres some that dont know from there elbow on lake managment.

we were there a couple weeks before Lannie, we are a 3 fish limit club, 11 guys weighed 23 fish. most of the guys i talked to, said they caught keepers all day. we had 3 big fish weighed, 1 over4, 1 over 5 1/2 and 1 right at 7. thats some pretty good fish for only 11 guys fishing

Mark, yes I am a tourny angler, and I dont believe I mentioned anything on me handleing my fish any different than the rest. In fact, I have had some huge sacks die in my boat or not swim off as a result of tournys, which almost ruined the win for me.

If you are fishing in south texas and catch a big sack .it is very hard to keep them alive, unless it is winter. The avg boat is just not ment to keep a 30 lb plus sack alive. I caught a 12 lber during a tourny on Falcon a while back and the fish had to be folded to fit in the live well.


It is especially hard when you catch most of your fish deep. I have learned a lot from Tim Griffin on how to keep big fish alive though. This guy catches regular 40 lb plus sacks on Falcon and catches them deep.
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I love tourny fishing but I am aware of the negitive effects that they have. That is why I am a big proponent of 3 fish limmits and limmiting the amount of tournys that each lake has, as well as not holding events during late summer.

We all just have to try our best and do our part to help ensure that our fish swim off healthy. In no way would I ever imply that my fish never die. With big sacks it is inevitable, fish will die.

Propaganda!

We are great at voicing opinions from the keyboard..... Not so great when it comes to taking action.

From the Dallas Morning News
Ray Sasser
Public Meeting Attracts Little Interest

Veteran Texas Parks and Wildlife Department fisheries biologist Bruce Hysmith said he�s disappointed with the poor response to a public scoping meeting that he called to talk about the potential problem that bass tournaments are causing for the fish at Amon Carter Lake. Seven anglers attended the meeting, and three others called Hysmith to voice their opinions. Five favored a slot limit to protect the mid-sized bass at the 1,848-acre Montague County lake.