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Re: blowing power heads on the SHO'S
[Re: Stroken-a-jig]
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05/23/11 05:02 AM
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Mark Perry
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For those that have stated that they haven't heard of any issues with the Yammy's, did you not pay attention to the classic? For those that say that Yamaha is better than a Merc, I do believe that the statics show that the Merc will still out run the Yammy on the big end. For those that say their boat is better than the other manufacturer..... Really...... You guys need to get over your selves. Every manufacturere has their own set of issues. Doesn't matter if it is a first year model of a motor, first year build of a new hull for a boat. They all have their pro's and con's. The only difference is the people that own each different product and want to say they own the best to make them selves feel better about the product they purchased. Truth is that parts for each manufacturer come from many different sources. More than likely, multiple manufacturers get parts from the same sources just branded under a different name. Everyone thinks they need to one up the other. If the boat gets you on the water, gets you where you want to go and puts you in the position to catch fish, I would say each persons purchase has served its purpose. By the way, my two man buster boat does the same that the 60K bass boat does, it gets me on the water. So you are saying the Merc is a better motor because its faster than the SHO? I would think thinks like reliability, cost of maintenance, and warranty would factor in as well. Just for fun Google the Merc coil issues. Fact is ALL brands have issues and at the end of the day its all just personal preference.
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Re: blowing power heads on the SHO'S
[Re: Mark Perry]
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05/23/11 10:52 AM
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Ken A.
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Exactly Mark. I forgot about the coils that went out on my Merc... LOL Thanks for reminding me. 
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Re: blowing power heads on the SHO'S
[Re: FootAndAHalf]
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05/24/11 12:46 PM
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nate king
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The company we sell for is based in Japan, they werent affected with MFG. The shipping aspect is slow, as expected with a disaster. I havent read about the Yamaha plant being affected. Do you have a link, Nate? Nate is likely hungover Ronnie, you know this! lol fair enough nope just been working my arse off
sponsored by Photo Bucket LLC I'm thinking Nate is probably right.
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Re: blowing power heads on the SHO'S
[Re: nate king]
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05/24/11 01:10 PM
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Cypress Legend
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My next boat wil have a SHO on it for sure. I grew up racing motocross and i know that when 4 strokes show up in a sport they take over. I have been in a few of the and love the power and mileage. No 2 stroke oil and quiet is a great thing to have!
The SHO talk has been like the Ford Diesel 6.0 talk. Eveyone says they have a brothers friends neighbors dentist bosses uncle that has blown up 63 of them in a day but the people that actually own them love them and dont experience half the problems other people "see" and "hear".
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Re: blowing power heads on the SHO'S
[Re: Cypress Legend]
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05/24/11 01:29 PM
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Kay Dyson
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You can't suppress the future, one day all outboard engines will be 4-strokes. I applaud Yamaha for their commitment to accelerate the markets use of lower emission engines with better, or comparable performance numbers to a conventional 2-stroke engine. It's here boys, get use to it, it ain't going away.. I like the fact of not buying $25.00 a gallon oil mix.
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Re: blowing power heads on the SHO'S
[Re: nate king]
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05/24/11 01:31 PM
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SkeeterRonnie
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The company we sell for is based in Japan, they werent affected with MFG. The shipping aspect is slow, as expected with a disaster. I havent read about the Yamaha plant being affected. Do you have a link, Nate? Nate is likely hungover Ronnie, you know this! lol fair enough nope just been working my arse off good deal nate! proud of ya bud! keep on working hard and good things will come!
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Re: blowing power heads on the SHO'S
[Re: SkeeterRonnie]
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05/24/11 02:04 PM
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Big Red 12
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If I only loose 2 mph to a Merc, I can live with that. The maintence and not spending extra $$$$$ on buying oil will offset the changing of the oil on 4-stroke. I am headed to a SHO.
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Re: blowing power heads on the SHO'S
[Re: Steve Stroman]
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05/24/11 02:11 PM
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boatman025
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I'm a machanic on Fork and was a Yamaha rep a lot of problems have been not breaking them in right and babin them. When they are no run right during break in the will they will make oil from the gas that goes past the ring and oil get full of gas and then the oil out the you have bearing issues.
Hughes Marine 3855 Osage Lane Wylie ,Texas
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Re: blowing power heads on the SHO'S
[Re: Kay Dyson]
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05/24/11 02:22 PM
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Skeeterag99
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Got my new boat yesterday with the SHO. Im speechless 
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Re: blowing power heads on the SHO'S
[Re: boatman025]
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05/24/11 02:23 PM
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Skeeterag99
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I'm a machanic on Fork and was a Yamaha rep a lot of problems have been not breaking them in right and babin them. When they are no run right during break in the will they will make oil from the gas that goes past the ring and oil get full of gas and then the oil out the you have bearing issues.
Thats hard to follow, ebonics? LOL jk
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Re: blowing power heads on the SHO'S
[Re: Mark Perry]
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05/24/11 02:24 PM
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Stroken-a-jig
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So you are saying the Merc is a better motor because its faster than the SHO?
Not saying that at all and if that is the way it came across, that was not the intention. I would think thinks like reliability, cost of maintenance, and warranty would factor in as well. Sure they will. Most manufacturers have outstanding warranties with options to upgrade. I believe reliability with both Merc and Yammys have already been proven. I think you will need a few years of time before you can establish a true cost of maintenance on the Yammys. Just for fun Google the Merc coil issues. Fact is ALL brands have issues and at the end of the day its all just personal preference. The issues with the coils caused some grief for Merc. As far as I know, Merc took care of the issue but it is not like it isn't a known issue on a specific year of motors. I think I also pointed out that there are pro's and con's to ALL manufacturers in my post. I wasn't trying to say one was better than the other like so many people like to try and prove on here. From my post Everyone thinks they need to one up the other. If the boat gets you on the water, gets you where you want to go and puts you in the position to catch fish, I would say each persons purchase has served its purpose. End result, everyone should be happy with what they have. Just because one boat runs 5 mph faster than another doesn't make it a better boat. A Yammy isn't necessarily better than a Merc. It all comes down to ones own opinion. So why don't people understand and see it that way........ I just can't figure out why it has to be such a contest on who owns what on forums. After all, the boats and motors that one has doesn't make up the difference from ones fishing ability. If that were the case, we all would be Pro's.... 
"Can you fish"
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Re: blowing power heads on the SHO'S
[Re: Stroken-a-jig]
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05/24/11 02:42 PM
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nascardriver
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If I could get the same performance and reliability out of any motor that I have had with my 92 Evinrude 150, I would be a happy fisherman. one power pack and a lower unit. And a big Thank You to J & J Marine at lake Fork. I let her warm up and then clear her out , she still runs like a scalded arse ape...Love my old rude.
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Re: blowing power heads on the SHO'S
[Re: J-2]
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05/24/11 03:04 PM
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RayburnJunkie
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I will agree that out of the box a merc will outrun the SHO. Mercury has always had a better tuned factory prop. If you have the Yammy prop tuned, Different story. My FX 21 was running 74.6 with the 25p prop out of the box. I put a vented 27P on it and it went to 78.7, but was blowing out when it came up on plane. I had the 25p balanced and added some cup to it and it got better hole shot(if you can believe that), and it will now run 77.2. Running with a full tank of gas ,full livewells, my partner and all his gear, It will run 73.8. My next project will be to have the 27p vented turned back to a 26p and weld up the vent holes. Might get interesting Because I still get full rpm's way too fast with the 25P. I have one and have had 0 issues. 50hrs in. Best motor I have eve ran. I think my merc before was a bit faster on top end (2-3mph) but I'll give that up for the hole shot, mid range power and quietness any day.
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Re: blowing power heads on the SHO'S
[Re: RayburnJunkie]
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05/24/11 03:07 PM
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RayburnJunkie
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And I talked to the Mechanic at Plano marine. Since the recall, they have only had two blown SHO's. One was caused by Improper Break-in. The other was caused by the guy not getting the recall issue with the head gasket fixed.
Everything blows up. And I think it will continue to be that way.
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Re: blowing power heads on the SHO'S
[Re: RayburnJunkie]
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05/24/11 03:49 PM
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Tiltman
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Ginger or Mary Ann......both Hot and would get you where you want to go.... I imagine Ginger was a little higher maint though.
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