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Re: TFF Gardening Thread [Re: Siberman] #5842485 02/13/11 01:40 PM
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What's "expanded shale" ?


I picked up a Ellis County Master Gardener Calender at a local rock place and started to read it. It say you should add expanded shale and compost. I looked it up and it help if your soil sticks to itself like my mud sticky soil. It's like cut up rock that let's the plant roots get more air and get bigger and better plants.


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Originally Posted By: Siberman
What's "expanded shale" ?
Well, it's the opposite of contracted shale. grin











It's something you can add to the soil to help maintain air in the soil. Say you have a flood or a massive brain belch and forget to shut off the water, expanded shale will still maintain an air pocket of 30% that the plants' roots can draw needed air to keep from drowning...It's similar to vermiculite, except it starts off like rounded rock and keeps it's smooth round appearance, but it expands...

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Originally Posted By: Siberman
What's "expanded shale" ?
Well, it's the opposite of contracted shale. grin



Thanks, smart a$$.;)


It's something you can add to the soil to help maintain air in the soil. Say you have a flood or a massive brain belch and forget to shut off the water, expanded shale will still maintain an air pocket of 30% that the plants' roots can draw needed air to keep from drowning...It's similar to vermiculite, except it starts off like rounded rock and keeps it's smooth round appearance, but it expands...


Kinda like the water absorbing crystals in reverse , huh ? Cool. How much is it ? Wouldn't it be just as effective to add more organic matter or sand ?


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What's "expanded shale" ?
Well, it's the opposite of contracted shale. grin



Thanks, smart a$$.;)


It's something you can add to the soil to help maintain air in the soil. Say you have a flood or a massive brain belch and forget to shut off the water, expanded shale will still maintain an air pocket of 30% that the plants' roots can draw needed air to keep from drowning...It's similar to vermiculite, except it starts off like rounded rock and keeps it's smooth round appearance, but it expands...


Kinda like the water absorbing crystals in reverse , huh ? Cool. How much is it ? Wouldn't it be just as effective to add more organic matter or sand ?
Not really. I've lost a couple of gardens in the past to heavy floods. Although sand can help with draining, sometimes, there's just too much water. I remember getting over 10 inches of rain in a matter of hours in 2005. I had to replant that garden and I was not happy...bang

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I'm trying container gardening this year. I built a small plywood deck in a corner of the back yard that gets sun all day and loaded it up with the biggest pots I could find ( whiskey barrel liners, rubbermaid containers , large planters , etc.) , filled them with Stay-Green and Miracle-Gro mixes for veggies and planted onions, spinach , lettuce , icicle radishes and turnip greens today. We'll see how it goes.

I plan on growing all my chilis in containers since I like the shorter varieties such as habs and thais and it's a lot easier to keep the weeds / fire ants out when they're potted.

The main garden will be dedicated to squash , corn , tomatoes and maybe some purple hulls or black-eyes this summer. I'm hoping the asparagus really takes off as I buried several fish carcasses around it this last year.

I always leave a few watermelons and cucumbers on the fence so they've been pretty good about re-seeding themselves for the past couple of years. Hoping the cantalopes will "volunteer" as well. thumb



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Re: TFF Gardening Thread [Re: Siberman] #5844147 02/13/11 11:30 PM
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Ist time gardener, what do i plant and when,, small 4x 10' double 4x4 area.

But i do have good soil,, it is in a built up area pm me please

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Ist time gardener, what do i plant and when,, small 4x 10' double 4x4 area.

But i do have good soil,, it is in a built up area pm me please


You're describing a raised bed 4' x 8' x 8" high, right ? I've yet to do raised beds but my understanding is that you can really pack the plants in there as long as they don't shade each other and you supply plenty of water and fertilizer.

I plant onions and greens in anything but blizzard conditions. I generally wait until after Easter to plant the tender veggies like corn, tomatoes, peppers, squash, etc. but Easter is April 24th this year so I'll probably move that up a couple of weeks .

I direct-seed melons and okra around the first of May.



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I have a huge problem with Johnson grass in my garden area. What do y'all suggest for control of this invasive species? Is there any pre-emergent that can be applied to aid in the prevention of Johnson grass?

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Try here, just might have to spray the grass killer through out the season. http://wiki.answers.com/Q/What_is_an_effective_all_natural_weed_and_grass_killer





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Originally Posted By: Tex-Star Wildlife
I have a huge problem with Johnson grass in my garden area. What do y'all suggest for control of this invasive species? Is there any pre-emergent that can be applied to aid in the prevention of Johnson grass?


I've never used pre-emergents in a vegetable garden but I was a fan of Round Up *tm until I did some heavy reading on it this past summer. You could always cover the plot with clear plastic and let the sun kill everything (including weed seeds/ roots , beneficial bacteria and nematodes , etc. ) in the soil but sterile earth isn't the best way to grow food (IMO).
Try a spray bottle full of 5 % white vinegar. The warmer and drier it is , the better it works (and there's no residual toxins in your garden).



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Don't use salt unless you don't want anything to grow in that area. It will stay in the ground or move around by watering.


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Re: TFF Gardening Thread [Re: LoneStarSon] #5870481 02/20/11 08:51 PM
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Planted blue taters and patio tomatoes today. thumb


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Re: TFF Gardening Thread [Re: Siberman] #5886279 02/24/11 05:59 PM
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So I planted a bunch of seeds in one of those Jiffy greenhouse trays you can get from wal-mart. Things have sprouted. When do I take them from the green house and put them in a pot in the sun in the house?

So far my cucumbers and cherry maters have come up with about 1" stems.


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You should prop up the clear plastic top until the rest sprout then transplant.

Wasn't this thread a sticky last year?

Here's what I got so far.



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