texasfishingforum.com logo
Main Menu
Advertisement
Affiliates
Advertisement
Newest Members
Mike Hall, SOFdude, onlyme, sandeez, Bward
119613 Registered Users
Top Posters(All Time)
TexDawg 124,712
hopalong 121,182
Bigbob_FTW 104,549
Bob Davis 96,410
John175☮ 86,137
Pilothawk 83,925
Mark Perry 74,867
Derek 🐝 68,501
JDavis7873 67,416
Forum Statistics
Forums59
Topics1,057,724
Posts14,289,635
Members144,613
Most Online39,925
Dec 30th, 2023
Print Thread
Page 5 of 6 1 2 3 4 5 6
Re: BAD crappie!! [Re: crappie_hook] #5683283 01/06/11 10:14 PM
Joined: Nov 2008
Posts: 251
M
muddy_shoes Offline
Angler
Offline
Angler
M
Joined: Nov 2008
Posts: 251
As I posted the two most important things you can do is

1.) keep the batceria count small through safe handling, and
2.) keep the small numbers of bacteria from growing.

This should be 90% of the effort you put into being safe. There is no way to "fix" food that has been poorly handled, unless you like the tatse of bleach. CAN'T fix it by cooking or freezing.

Cooking only works if #1 & #2 was done. Cooking above 165 deg F kills most bacteria (not all) but it may not destroy the toxins already present from the bacteria. Start with lots of bacteria - enough will make it through to make you sick.

Since very few people know how to safely process food, they will most likely transfer bacteria from the raw food back to the cooked food. If the raw food has lots of bacteria, the cooked food will probably have high numbers when it is done.

Seriously, how many people sanitize the spatula after they flip the fish? It touches the raw fish, sits there at a lovely bateria growing temp for 7 minutes, and then touches the food right before you put it in the plate. Do you always wash and sanitize your hands and the counter between each step? I've seen plenty of people with a plate of raw fish spill some of the fish water on the counter, then sit the spatulat right in the raw fish water. Or touch raw fish and thumb the serving plate. Best to accept the fact you will be transferring some percentage of the bacteria, so keep the bacteria counts really low to start with.

Freezing only stops bacteria from multiplying while frozen. Freezing doesn't kill virus or bacteria, It just slows them down. Freezing does kill some some parasites.

Originally Posted By: http://www.fsis.usda.gov

Freezing to 0 F inactivates any microbes bacteria, yeasts and molds present in food. Once thawed, however, these microbes can again become active, multiplying under the right conditions to levels that can lead to foodborne illness. Since they will then grow at about the same rate as microorganisms on fresh food, you must handle thawed items as you would any perishable food.

Trichina and other parasites can be destroyed by sub-zero freezing temperatures. However, very strict government-supervised conditions must be met. Home freezing cannot be relied upon to destroy trichina. Thorough cooking, however, will destroy all parasites.




If I should go to meet my maker, please don't let my wife sell my fishing gear for what she thinks I spent on it!
~~~~~~~~~~ ><> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

This post is my opinion. I am not a lawyer. Check whatever I say with a lawyer.

Re: BAD crappie!! [Re: sensei] #5683748 01/07/11 12:29 AM
Joined: Dec 2006
Posts: 827
T
TheKingOfFish Offline
Pro Angler
Offline
Pro Angler
T
Joined: Dec 2006
Posts: 827
looks like fish syphilis haha



Re: BAD crappie!! [Re: ChineWalker] #5683808 01/07/11 12:50 AM
Joined: Aug 2006
Posts: 4,712
K
Knot at work Offline
TFF Team Angler
Offline
TFF Team Angler
K
Joined: Aug 2006
Posts: 4,712
Originally Posted By: ChineWalker
Don`t Laugh ! !

I ate a Bullhead catfish from there last year,.........and i tell you what,......i started fartin like a mule in a sweet potato patch,.........bad stuff,........


sick you ate a Mudcat? LOL


Lone Star Pool Care
Weekly service, repairs, installs, and sales
+1 (469) 344-9541&#8236;&#8236;


Re: BAD crappie!! [Re: Knot at work] #5683815 01/07/11 12:52 AM
Joined: Aug 2006
Posts: 4,712
K
Knot at work Offline
TFF Team Angler
Offline
TFF Team Angler
K
Joined: Aug 2006
Posts: 4,712
I ate over a thousand sandbass and hybrids from Rowlette Creek..never got sick and they tasted fine..if the sissies think RC is polluted..let em think that..more room this spring for the run

Last edited by Knot at work; 01/07/11 12:52 AM.

Lone Star Pool Care
Weekly service, repairs, installs, and sales
+1 (469) 344-9541&#8236;&#8236;


Re: BAD crappie!! [Re: Knot at work] #5693901 01/09/11 07:51 PM
Joined: Jan 2008
Posts: 706
S
Snagalager Offline
Pro Angler
Offline
Pro Angler
S
Joined: Jan 2008
Posts: 706
A mud cat? lol


[Linked Image]
Re: BAD crappie!! [Re: Knot at work] #5693952 01/09/11 08:02 PM
Joined: Apr 2009
Posts: 1,272
M
MikeG02 Offline
Extreme Angler
Offline
Extreme Angler
M
Joined: Apr 2009
Posts: 1,272
Originally Posted By: Knot at work
Originally Posted By: ChineWalker
Don`t Laugh ! !

I ate a Bullhead catfish from there last year,.........and i tell you what,......i started fartin like a mule in a sweet potato patch,.........bad stuff,........


sick you ate a Mudcat? LOL


rolfmao

Re: BAD crappie!! [Re: Snagalager] #5693967 01/09/11 08:05 PM
Joined: Dec 2006
Posts: 744
R
raiderLUVjen Offline
Pro Angler
Offline
Pro Angler
R
Joined: Dec 2006
Posts: 744
Freezing doesn't kill the bacteria...it just stops the growth of it.

When you thaw it, it is in the same state as it was before you froze it. It just keeps it from growing.



Re: BAD crappie!! [Re: raiderLUVjen] #5694052 01/09/11 08:23 PM
Joined: Jan 2006
Posts: 590
B
BOMBER1 Offline
Pro Angler
Offline
Pro Angler
B
Joined: Jan 2006
Posts: 590
[quote=raiderLUVjen]Freezing doesn't kill the bacteria...it just stops the growth of it.

this is true, but the 350 degree grease you fry the fish in should kill any bacteria. surgical intruments are sterilized at 270 degrees. I also learned in biology that cold denatures enzymes, while heat kills enzymes.


A fish a day keeps the doctor away.
Re: BAD crappie!! [Re: BOMBER1] #5694078 01/09/11 08:29 PM
Joined: Dec 2006
Posts: 744
R
raiderLUVjen Offline
Pro Angler
Offline
Pro Angler
R
Joined: Dec 2006
Posts: 744
Very true!



Re: BAD crappie!! [Re: raiderLUVjen] #5695981 01/10/11 04:13 AM
Joined: Nov 2008
Posts: 251
M
muddy_shoes Offline
Angler
Offline
Angler
M
Joined: Nov 2008
Posts: 251
You cook your fish to 360 deg internally? Or do you eat the oil?

I'm pretty sure regardless of how hot the oil is, the meat itself doesn't get above 170 - which does not destroy all the toxins and bacteria. You would need to heat to 185-190, at which point you'll have driven out almost all the moisture and have fish jerky.

Prove me wrong. Post an official link. Cite your source. This is why we have an FDA, to stop misinformation.



If I should go to meet my maker, please don't let my wife sell my fishing gear for what she thinks I spent on it!
~~~~~~~~~~ ><> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

This post is my opinion. I am not a lawyer. Check whatever I say with a lawyer.

Re: BAD crappie!! [Re: Mark Ray] #5696087 01/10/11 05:15 AM
Joined: Jun 2010
Posts: 1,446
T
TxPacker4 Offline
Extreme Angler
Offline
Extreme Angler
T
Joined: Jun 2010
Posts: 1,446
Originally Posted By: MR
Carey makes an excellent point in that jumping on a forum because you had a stomach ache at some point after you ate a fish from a certian body of water is kind of reckless and could be very damaging to those who make some or all of there living as part of the fishing industry on that body.
What Carey said was mild. Go up to the Striper forum and post up about toxins in Lake Texoma and see how many guides jump all over your arse.
+1 You don't mess with someone's way of making a living.


Cody Waddle
Licensed Fishing Guide
texasoklahomafishingguides.com
Re: BAD crappie!! [Re: TxPacker4] #5697594 01/10/11 06:54 PM
Joined: Jul 2009
Posts: 283
N
nastynate Offline
Angler
Offline
Angler
N
Joined: Jul 2009
Posts: 283
I prefer this method of eating fish


Re: BAD crappie!! [Re: nastynate] #5697683 01/10/11 07:09 PM
Joined: Feb 2008
Posts: 1,044
C
crappie_hook Offline
Extreme Angler
Offline
Extreme Angler
C
Joined: Feb 2008
Posts: 1,044
lol.. getcha some of that son. Bear is one throwed off dude


Re: BAD crappie!! [Re: crappie_hook] #5697694 01/10/11 07:10 PM
Joined: May 2010
Posts: 14,445
M
Mark Ray Offline
TFF Guru
Offline
TFF Guru
M
Joined: May 2010
Posts: 14,445
i like sushi but that is too raw for me...

Re: BAD crappie!! [Re: Mark Ray] #5697776 01/10/11 07:33 PM
Joined: Dec 2006
Posts: 744
R
raiderLUVjen Offline
Pro Angler
Offline
Pro Angler
R
Joined: Dec 2006
Posts: 744
Mmmmm...sushi!!!



Page 5 of 6 1 2 3 4 5 6
Previous Thread
Index
Next Thread

© 1998-2022 OUTDOOR SITES NETWORK all rights reserved USA and Worldwide
Powered by UBB.threads™ PHP Forum Software 7.7.3