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Re: Why does B.A.S.S. get more attention than the FLW?
[Re: Joefishin]
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08/11/10 12:52 AM
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Edit: Bass bustin, I'm just having fun, it's a good topic I agree. It's a great topic and discussion. 
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Re: Why does B.A.S.S. get more attention than the FLW?
[Re: Bass_Bustin_Texan]
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08/11/10 01:04 AM
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Watching FLW seems boring to me, unless they have changed the way they air it. All it was when I watched it was a weigh in, they showed very little fishing. The BASS pro's just seem bigger/more famous and I think they could out fish a lot of the no names on the FLW. But it could be that I just haven't watched the FLW enough and it could be because the lakes they fish have smaller fish; but the bottom line is I watch these shows to learn how the pro's catch fish and I just think I will learn more watching KVD than Larry Nixon. And I do like Larry Nixon!
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Re: Why does B.A.S.S. get more attention than the FLW?
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08/11/10 01:32 AM
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Hook'emUTbass
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BASS gets more attention because ESPN is on all cable packages and WFN isn't. Seriously, I have never had the channel that FLW has aired on or I'd watch any bass competion.
I can say the same about watching a BassChamps event either on the OLN. I don't ever remember FLW on ESPN, I remember when FLW was on FOX SW and I didn't get it then either.
Some how, I did get to see the FLW Cup in Pittsburg because I was house sitting and FLW had it going on, pretty good show, needed more coverage on the water, but then they all do.
I did payouts a few years ago. Not much difference in payouts. For most of the years, BASS Elites had 11 events with 3 majors, and FLW was 6, even when it went to 8 events, FLW was still 6, and with AOY payouts and such, BASS had the advantage in the whole season in payouts.
WE need as many pro trails as possible as the industry can afford, alot of good sticks and only a few opportunities to make a living, we need more openings.
Two trails keep the other one always trying to be innovative for the future, and that folks is good for us as anglers.
AOY, last years post season BASS should have shown you guys that what KVD did was possible.
Ike went from 11th to 3rd in the first post season lake last year, the only difference this year was it wasn't Ike closing the deal, it was KVD.
How can you feel for Skeet, New Englands 16-0 showed that postseason means something and being good in regular season only assures you a spot in the post season, you must perform under the same rules as everyone else did.
I believe KVD had 30lbs last year and the closest competitor had 17+ to seal the deal for the 5th AOY.
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Re: Why does B.A.S.S. get more attention than the FLW?
[Re: Hook'emUTbass]
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08/11/10 01:46 AM
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Two trails keep the other one always trying to be innovative for the future, and that folks is good for us as anglers. Very good point. Competition keeps the industry moving ahead!
You can avoid having ulcers by adapting to the situation: If you fall in the mud puddle, check your pockets for fish. ~Unknown
Open your eyes & look within, are you satisfied with the life youre living.
No matter how good or bad you have it, wake up each day thankful for your life. Someone somewhere else is desperately fighting for theirs.
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Re: Why does B.A.S.S. get more attention than the FLW?
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08/11/10 01:57 AM
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FLW has shown where a co-angler has a place in the sport, and can grow into a pro. The dream seems possible in FLW even for pros, but it is all about the TV, and BASS has that. TV = Money. I think coverage for FLW will be insane for 2011.
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Re: Why does B.A.S.S. get more attention than the FLW?
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08/11/10 01:59 AM
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Just a better organization... Dan
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Re: Why does B.A.S.S. get more attention than the FLW?
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08/11/10 02:11 AM
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Number 1 reason Bassmaster Magazine.
 have you picked up their magazine recently, its become a joke since ESPN bought them. I had a subscription and they would forget to send me 2 sometimes 3 magazines every year. Its half the publication it once was, in size and content. I am reading alot of outdated comments about both leagues on here, things that were true a year or two ago, but not necessarily this season, thing have changed alot this year.
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Re: Why does B.A.S.S. get more attention than the FLW?
[Re: fosterfence]
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08/11/10 02:47 AM
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FLW has shown where a co-angler has a place in the sport, and can grow into a pro. The dream seems possible in FLW even for pros, but it is all about the TV, and BASS has that. TV = Money. I think coverage for FLW will be insane for 2011. Grass Roots! It gives us all a chance. Fosterfence, I fished with your dad on Amistad this year. He is a super nice guy! We had a good time! He sure spoke highly of you!  I work with my dad too! 
You can avoid having ulcers by adapting to the situation: If you fall in the mud puddle, check your pockets for fish. ~Unknown
Open your eyes & look within, are you satisfied with the life youre living.
No matter how good or bad you have it, wake up each day thankful for your life. Someone somewhere else is desperately fighting for theirs.
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Re: Why does B.A.S.S. get more attention than the FLW?
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08/11/10 03:06 AM
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The TV coverage on FLW is not very good. I watch it, but BASS does a much better job of covering events and showing more fishing, plus Zona and Sanders handle the show much better. The BASS names are recognizable. The few guys I know on the FLW side don't seem to do very well any more. I think it says something when Ish Monroe gets a big check in just about every FLW event he enters but can't crack the top 50 in the Elites. I also don't like one boat, and the generic jerseys they wear. Let the fisherman market themselves and get their sponsors some air time. The grass roots guy from San Diego won $600,000 this weekend. (Nice of T. Boone to kick in 100 grand) but he didn't get a million because he didn't fish out of a Ranger? That stinks. If first prize is a million bucks, it's a million bucks, I don't care if the guy is in a jon boat! Hackney got screwed by that last year too. FLW was probably turning cartwheels that they didn't have to pay out the full amount two years running. Oh yeah, Hackney won the Wood Cup last year. BASS guy right? Enough said.
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Re: Why does B.A.S.S. get more attention than the FLW?
[Re: SoCal Tom]
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08/11/10 03:12 AM
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If those FLW events were so easy you would see a lot more BASS guys fishing them... Enough Said
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Re: Why does B.A.S.S. get more attention than the FLW?
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08/11/10 04:07 AM
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FLW is like the old USFL. You knew it was football but it just wasn't the same. It will always be 2nd fiddle.
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Re: Why does B.A.S.S. get more attention than the FLW?
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08/11/10 04:20 AM
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Put FLW on ESPN and see what happens? NOOO THAT WOULD BE TERRIBLE ESPN WILL SCREW IT UP!!! Ya, you wouldn't want to recognize or give a sh*t about any of the anglers. That would be horrible. ... R u kidding? FLW is by far the more competitive league, just look at how many more people you have to beat to win a tourney. The reason you don't know the guys as well is because there are more of them and it is harder to repeat. ESPN doesn't give a rats rear about anything but the tv time. example 1.) Do some investigating into why they havn't gone back to falcon dude it isn't becuase they don't want to. They have been asked not to returne because espn is all about the hype and comercials and doesn't care about the fish or fisherman.THey got asked to not come back becasue 90% of all those mosters they caught at Falcon died. TPWL asked them to not come back. They kept those fish out for ppl to oogle all day and killed them. example 2.) THE bull that they called an AOY. They changed what was a very legitimat working system.(not perfect but good) into a complete joke. I mean they fish in 8 tourneys at four days a pop. They are going to throw out 32 days of fishing and working for 4 days??? REALLY how are you gona call that an angler of the year. really that is a play off system for the championship. Not a test of who was most consistant example 3.) ESPN donsn't care about the entire outdoors sector. they have already announced that they will be dropping their outdoor programing except for the bassmaster classic example 4) getting rid of the co-anglers. How does that help grow the sport? what does that do for the guys who are trying to work their way up. How are they helping the sport? they arn't they are trying to milk the cash cow of sponsors dry. DOn't get me wrong I LOVE ME SOME SPORTS CENTER. But to say that espn is a good thing for the BASS association is rediculous.
Last edited by catslayer; 08/11/10 04:24 AM.
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Re: Why does B.A.S.S. get more attention than the FLW?
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08/11/10 04:21 AM
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catslayer
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FLW is like the old USFL. You knew it was football but it just wasn't the same. It will always be 2nd fiddle. Bigger payouts, and more and more "elites" jumping ship or pulling double duty??? More like the american league to the national league. One day we are going to need a combineing or at least an interconected championship
"I'll never mess with bee's or wasp anymore, and I'll never gig another beaver..." Words from a man who learned things the hard way
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Re: Why does B.A.S.S. get more attention than the FLW?
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08/11/10 04:30 AM
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BASS gets more attention because ESPN is on all cable packages and WFN isn't. Seriously, I have never had the channel that FLW has aired on or I'd watch any bass competion.
I can say the same about watching a BassChamps event either on the OLN. I don't ever remember FLW on ESPN, I remember when FLW was on FOX SW and I didn't get it then either.
Some how, I did get to see the FLW Cup in Pittsburg because I was house sitting and FLW had it going on, pretty good show, needed more coverage on the water, but then they all do.
I did payouts a few years ago. Not much difference in payouts. For most of the years, BASS Elites had 11 events with 3 majors, and FLW was 6, even when it went to 8 events, FLW was still 6, and with AOY payouts and such, BASS had the advantage in the whole season in payouts.
WE need as many pro trails as possible as the industry can afford, alot of good sticks and only a few opportunities to make a living, we need more openings.
Two trails keep the other one always trying to be innovative for the future, and that folks is good for us as anglers.
AOY, last years post season BASS should have shown you guys that what KVD did was possible.
Ike went from 11th to 3rd in the first post season lake last year, the only difference this year was it wasn't Ike closing the deal, it was KVD.
How can you feel for Skeet, New Englands 16-0 showed that postseason means something and being good in regular season only assures you a spot in the post season, you must perform under the same rules as everyone else did.
I believe KVD had 30lbs last year and the closest competitor had 17+ to seal the deal for the 5th AOY.
I agree with everything said except for the skeet part. You can't throw away an intire season worth of work for a few days and call it an angler of the YEAR, KVD was angler of the last two weeks, skeet was angler of the year. I hope capt'n awesome comes back hungry and not depressed next year though. I also would LOVE to watch more FLW. But we don't get to see it if we don't have the super jumbo cable package. since it is on vs now I can see it at my parents. It will be the top tevo'd thing
"I'll never mess with bee's or wasp anymore, and I'll never gig another beaver..." Words from a man who learned things the hard way
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Re: Why does B.A.S.S. get more attention than the FLW?
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08/11/10 04:32 AM
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Youthguide
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flw is better because it gives everyone a shot. Try and enter bass as a co-angler
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