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Re: TFF Gardening Thread
[Re: Tin Head]
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08/05/10 05:59 PM
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DHFisher
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i'll check it tonight. i put sevin on em last night
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Re: TFF Gardening Thread
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08/05/10 06:35 PM
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Tin Head
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i'll check it tonight. i put sevin on em last night I have been trying some organic stuff and am finding out vegetable , mineral, oil and soap will kill a lot of things. Including your plants if you over do it.  I tried this solution on some ants and they literally stopped in their tracks dead. If the sevin does not seem to be working , give them a blast of water. This helps a lot. They multiply so fast though that to get rid of them its gonna take a few times before there all gone. Have you fertilized lately? Aphids are attracted to plants with high nitrogen. The sap coming out of the leaves is what there after and if its rich with nitrogen they go crazy, or the ants go crazy also. Their loving the sap.
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Re: TFF Gardening Thread
[Re: Tin Head]
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08/05/10 07:45 PM
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DHFisher
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Nope, haven't fertilized lately. I did just learn that ants suck the sap out of the buttt of the aphids. Click 
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Re: TFF Gardening Thread
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08/05/10 07:56 PM
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Yes , and the ants will also "farm" the aphids like we do cows. They will move the aphids to areas and keep them there then go in and get their fill.
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Re: TFF Gardening Thread
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08/05/10 08:56 PM
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There are literally thousands of species of aphids so color isn't a good way to tell. They all have pretty much the same body shape, though. If the ants are all around and not killing them I'd say it's a pretty good chance that they are aphids.
Are the "larvae" black with orange or yellow stripes ? They might be ladybug larvae that eat a ton of aphids. When I have them I put Sevin around the base of the plant (to discourage the ants) and let the ladybugs go to town. 
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Re: TFF Gardening Thread
[Re: Tin Head]
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08/05/10 09:02 PM
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Have you fertilized lately? Aphids are attracted to plants with high nitrogen. The sap coming out of the leaves is what there after and if its rich with nitrogen they go crazy, or the ants go crazy also. Their loving the sap. Might explain why ants get in peas and beans so much. All the legumes "fix" nitrogen into the surrounding soil.
I've used "trap crops" for aphids before. You plant something they like a week or so earlier than your main crop so they'll be drawn away. Maybe could try planting some greens and pour on the Miracle-Gro to keep 'em away from the other stuff ?
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Re: TFF Gardening Thread
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08/05/10 10:47 PM
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Tin Head
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Have you fertilized lately? Aphids are attracted to plants with high nitrogen. The sap coming out of the leaves is what there after and if its rich with nitrogen they go crazy, or the ants go crazy also. Their loving the sap. Might explain why ants get in peas and beans so much. All the legumes "fix" nitrogen into the surrounding soil.
I've used "trap crops" for aphids before. You plant something they like a week or so earlier than your main crop so they'll be drawn away. Maybe could try planting some greens and pour on the Miracle-Gro to keep 'em away from the other stuff ? Well from what I have read ants dont go after the plants. Probably some one from up north wrote the article. BUT, from what I have seen , a ant will dip their chops into the plants. After I killed most of the aphids I seen the ants running like crazy all over the leaves. I think they were in search of aphids to farm. They seemed to also be biting into the leaves, unless there was some microscopic bug they were attacking, they were getting there "sap" fix themselves. I was thinking of using those fly glue strips and wrap it around the stem at the base of each plant. No ants bugs should make it up to the foliage. But for aphids mix a spray bottle with vegetable oil, soap ,and water,spray it directly on them and check back in a hour or so they will be dead. It works. But again for those mainly that use soaker hoses, spray the plants at least once a week or when you see bugs getting out of control. On the stems and under the leaves. This works good to get the numbers down on aphids. I like to push the limit on nitrogen when getting lush green foliage so I will always be dealing with aphids. When I want the plants to start producing I concentrate more on the second of the N-P-K level. Its a balance.
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Re: TFF Gardening Thread
[Re: Tin Head]
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08/06/10 02:57 PM
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The sevin took care of the issue for me. It was on the plants for about 24 hrs and last night I sprayed the plant off really well. Seems to be good now.
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Re: TFF Gardening Thread
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08/06/10 05:24 PM
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The sevin took care of the issue for me. It was on the plants for about 24 hrs and last night I sprayed the plant off really well. Seems to be good now.  I think I am going to get some liquid seven also to keep in a spray bottle. I dont want through it all over the garden. Just to spot check things.
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Re: TFF Gardening Thread
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08/06/10 11:41 PM
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Hey Tin Head, finally started getting orange habaneros! Just needed more time to ripen, as suggested. #@!$% stink bugs are showing up in the peppers now. Thinking about trying some liquid Sevin. Problem is my sprayer is tied up with material for Cut Ants. I'm sure it would take care of the stinkers, but it would be WAAAY off label!
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Re: TFF Gardening Thread
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08/09/10 08:53 PM
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I had these posted on the THF during our down time, since we're back here ya go... Today's harvest (after about 4 days of not picking)...   
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Re: TFF Gardening Thread
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08/09/10 08:57 PM
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Another trick to keeping aphids away, as Siberman pointed out, is to grow companion plants that repel or "trap" aphids (2 different approaches). Here's a good link: Link
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Re: TFF Gardening Thread
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08/09/10 08:59 PM
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Another trick to keeping aphids away, as Siberman pointed out, is to grow companion plants that repel or "trap" aphids (2 different approaches). Here's a good link: Link I just put out that picture of Fatty in a dress and it seems to have done wonders at keeping the pests away...
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Re: TFF Gardening Thread
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08/09/10 09:04 PM
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You guys know everything..... I'm just an idiot....no problem........
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Re: TFF Gardening Thread
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08/09/10 09:08 PM
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Those are AWESOME!!!! I had one that ripened and the freaking bugs got to it the morning I went to pick it...  My watermelons are doing okay still, so we'll see...
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