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Re: Creating your own Honey hole, Is it Cheating or Smart?
[Re: Jimmie Moreland]
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06/15/10 08:31 PM
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Chad711
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if you have to ask if it's cheating then it is
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Re: Creating your own Honey hole, Is it Cheating or Smart?
[Re: Chad711]
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06/15/10 08:46 PM
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John175☮
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Here's a small tree someone sunk on a bank with some boulders. The trunk is to the left of the top left image and the branches are laying on a boulder. Good placement.
Stress less, relax more. Go fishing.
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Re: Creating your own Honey hole, Is it Cheating or Smart?
[Re: Jimmie Moreland]
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06/15/10 09:43 PM
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Mark Wendler
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Maybe I mis-interpreted Mark's post........If the intent of the post was to say someone who fishes brush piles is a bad fisherman, that I totally disagree with the post. In the analogy, both hunters achieved their objective, they just used different methods to achieve the outcome. They both still used their skills to position themselves & both had to shoot straight. Neither one could be considered a "Bad" hunter. The point I was trying to make was...whether its hunting, fishing, or whatever, most sportsman accept the conditions, as they are presented, and challenge themselves accordingly. Others might take a different path & alter the conditions to favor their goal. Both might, or might not, achieve their objective. But, as I asked in the analogy, in the end....Who is the better sportsman??
Bass Club of Fort Worth "The answer to every problem in life is to go fishing. The bigger the problem, the longer the trip"
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Re: Creating your own Honey hole, Is it Cheating or Smart?
[Re: Mark Wendler]
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06/15/10 10:11 PM
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Jimmie Moreland
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the hunter that doesn't put a feeder and just hopes to find a big buck roaming his land is like the guy who doesn't put the time in on the water (learning the lake and putting out structure) hoping to catch a big ole pig!
I don't hunt, but most my friends and family do. I don't know a single hunter that doesn't put out a feeder.
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Re: Creating your own Honey hole, Is it Cheating or Smart?
[Re: Jimmie Moreland]
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06/15/10 10:16 PM
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the Mine-pro
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just because u go put out trees and pallets dnt mean u got the skills to catch them !
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Re: Creating your own Honey hole, Is it Cheating or Smart?
[Re: the Mine-pro]
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06/15/10 10:27 PM
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jwedel
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You can go to the COE Office at each lake and get a permit to build a brushpile, They want to know what type of material you are using, and where in the lake you are putting it. They do not want them creating a boating hazard when the lake level goes down
If I remember correctly, willows less than six inches in diameter were the only trees that you could use from coe property, or anything growing in rip rap
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Re: Creating your own Honey hole, Is it Cheating or Smart?
[Re: SkeeterRonnie]
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06/15/10 10:40 PM
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Champion1
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Alton Jones did it for years and look where he is.
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Re: Creating your own Honey hole, Is it Cheating or Smart?
[Re: John175☮]
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06/15/10 11:11 PM
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CrappieFreaks
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Here's a small tree someone sunk on a bank with some boulders. The trunk is to the left of the top left image and the branches are laying on a boulder. Good placement. I dont see any fish on it.
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Re: Creating your own Honey hole, Is it Cheating or Smart?
[Re: CrappieFreaks]
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06/15/10 11:17 PM
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Clint Wr
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If you tournament fish, I promise your competitors are fishing man made brush/piles. This does not mean they will always beat the angler not using them. But, my experience says it does provide an edge more often than not. Adding habitat to a "LEGAL" lake is good for the ecosystem. If you don't think so, put all of your furniture in the front yard and spend the next week sitting and sleeping in the floor.
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Re: Creating your own Honey hole, Is it Cheating or Smart?
[Re: Clint Wr]
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06/16/10 12:15 AM
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cull1
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Heres a question? What about the guy who places brushpiles and then fishes the lake for several weeks before the tourny and releases all the fish he catches on his brushpiles. When you release a fish he is gonna find the nearest cover. Do you think that would be cheating? He still has to go back and catch the fish he released.
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Re: Creating your own Honey hole, Is it Cheating or Smart?
[Re: cull1]
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06/16/10 12:47 AM
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Parker S.
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Heres a question? What about the guy who places brushpiles and then fishes the lake for several weeks before the tourny and releases all the fish he catches on his brushpiles. When you release a fish he is gonna find the nearest cover. Do you think that would be cheating? He still has to go back and catch the fish he released. i do believe that would be breaking the rules in alot of tournies... you aren't allowed to load a hole up
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Re: Creating your own Honey hole, Is it Cheating or Smart?
[Re: Parker S.]
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06/16/10 02:23 AM
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Black Jack
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Anglers (including tournament anglers) that create their own artifical attractants I think is because they are not good enough to win without them and require this crutch to try to win. Without them, they are only average anglers. Without them, they lack confidence to locate fish consistently otherwise.
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Re: Creating your own Honey hole, Is it Cheating or Smart?
[Re: Black Jack]
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06/16/10 02:28 AM
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Parker S.
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Anglers (including tournament anglers) that create their own artifical attractants I think is because they are not good enough to win without them and require this crutch to try to win. Without them, they are only average anglers. Without them, they lack confidence to locate fish consistently otherwise. quite possibly the most ridiculous statememt in the history of the TFF
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Re: Creating your own Honey hole, Is it Cheating or Smart?
[Re: Parker S.]
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06/16/10 02:32 AM
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Black Jack
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Anglers (including tournament anglers) that create their own artifical attractants I think is because they are not good enough to win without them and require this crutch to try to win. Without them, they are only average anglers. Without them, they lack confidence to locate fish consistently otherwise. quite possibly the most ridiculous statememt in the history of the TFF I can see why the truth may hurt your feelings...
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Re: Creating your own Honey hole, Is it Cheating or Smart?
[Re: Black Jack]
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06/16/10 03:23 AM
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Brandon Dickenson
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Anglers (including tournament anglers) that create their own artifical attractants I think is because they are not good enough to win without them and require this crutch to try to win. Without them, they are only average anglers. Without them, they lack confidence to locate fish consistently otherwise. quite possibly the most ridiculous statememt in the history of the TFF I can see why the truth may hurt your feelings... True ignorance at its finest right here...WOW.. This is an extra circumstance to why I lost interest in this site!!
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