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Re: TFF Gardening Thread [Re: LoneStarSon] #4844385 05/11/10 03:32 PM
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That's right. Also my wallet feels dehydrated bang

side note (sorry to get off topic), I dug up one yesterday, out of curiosity, and it wasn't even concreted into the hole. Sorry piece of junk builder!




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Re: TFF Gardening Thread [Re: DHFisher] #4844774 05/11/10 05:10 PM
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Huh. Ok. I'll leave em. Are they like cucumbers in that they rely on bees to pollinate? Cause I ain't seen a single bee, butterfly or moth.


Bees work cucumbers for the nectar. Which is a trade off for the cucumbers for the bees to pollinate at the same time. Cucumbers produce nectar only a couple hours a day. 1-3 I think. Could vary with the species. Bees will learn the time and only work them during those couple hours. So you may have to check a few times a day to spot them.


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Huh. Ok. I'll leave em. Are they like cucumbers in that they rely on bees to pollinate? Cause I ain't seen a single bee, butterfly or moth.


Bees work cucumbers for the nectar. Which is a trade off for the cucumbers for the bees to pollinate at the same time. Cucumbers produce nectar only a couple hours a day. 1-3 I think. Could vary with the species. Bees will learn the time and only work them during those couple hours. So you may have to check a few times a day to spot them.


I asked because last year with my cukes I had to pollinate them myself. I waited forever before I researched it and started self pollinating. A q-tip worked well for me.



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Re: TFF Gardening Thread [Re: DHFisher] #4847026 05/12/10 02:05 AM
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OK guys, I built my wife a garden this year, it is a 16 X 32 plot with a concrete border around it, I put about 20 yards of what they call premium garden fill in it, looked pretty much like mulch, I then put miracle grow down for fertilizer, my okra came up right away but has done nothing in about 3 weeks, the green beans came up really nice and now they are yellow looking, the spinach, carrots and lettuce are pretty weak, the tomatoes have fruit but they look weak, the onions look terrible, the peppers are fair, the potatoes and squash are growing really well and look the best out of all plants, I water when needed and have good drainage, do I need to put some more fertilizer or plant food out ? My plants are setting in 12 inches of prime garden soil, any help for this rookie would be greatly appreciated, thanks.


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How often are you watering? Here's the thing about good draining soil, you need to water more often then you'd think...When you dig down, how deep is the moisture?

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I have been checking it lately and the moisture is atleast 3 inches down, I did not dig any further thinking it was plenty good. I know ever since I put this garden in we have had very little rain, with very good drainage can you water too much ?


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Originally Posted By: Happykamper
I have been checking it lately and the moisture is atleast 3 inches down, I did not dig any further thinking it was plenty good. I know ever since I put this garden in we have had very little rain, with very good drainage can you water too much ?
Watering too much with good draining soil is a bit difficult...You need to water more often if it takes three inches before you're hitting moisture...If it's moist from the top down 3 inches you're probably okay...

My soil drains really well and I water at least every other day, and with the winds lately, I've had to turn on the sprinklers for an hour after hand watering...The southerly winds we've been experiencing have really dried out the soil...

The tap roots on most veggie plants are not going to be longer than 4 inches and most of the supporting roots are much closer to the soil. With pepper plants, they begin just under the soil...

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The soil was moist from the top down to atleast 3 inches, hopefully some good sunshine will perk it up some.


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Re: TFF Gardening Thread [Re: Happykamper] #4848594 05/12/10 02:55 PM
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Do tomato plants cross pollinate? or do they keep it all amongst themselves?

They say we're going to get some good rain this week!!!


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I have a tomato plant that is growing like crazy, prolly 3ft high and 4ft across. Problem is, it barely has a couple flowers, and only 1 pitiful fruit. It's green and healthy but just not makin' babies. Any ideas? (Please don't tell me it is ghey)




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Does anyone think soaker hoses work best in gardens?

It's seeming to make a difference for me this year.


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Artificial hail storm! I know it sounds drastic, but I've taken a broom stick to lanky tomatoe plants that refused to set fruit. Just a light beating. Looks like he11 for a while, but it works.

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Originally Posted By: Bass_Bustin_Texan
Does anyone think soaker hoses work best in gardens?

It's seeming to make a difference for me this year.
One of the reasons they work better is because they are closer to the root system and deliver the water in a drip rather than a flood, allowing the plants to absorb the water.

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It's much easier to water that way as well. I can leave it on and come back a hour later.


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your also not wasting water by spraying everything.





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