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Re: TFF Gardening Thread [Re: Tin Head] #4853195 05/13/10 02:17 PM
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Okra - two inches tall, turning brown and getting limp.

I'm pretty sure I know whats wrong. I remember I had a half bag of peat this spring and I used that for the top couple inches of my beds. Well, peat = acidic, duh.

The plants that are able to get below that, such as, the tomatoes and peppers are doing fine but the plants that are young and have a shallow root system are failing... squash, cucumbers and okra.

So, the question is, can I ammend the soil with plants already started to counteract the peat? I think I'm gonna start over with the okra but the other plants are sorta established.



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CUCUMBER BEETLEFeed on Cucumbers, cantaloupes, winter squash, pumpkins, gourds, summer squash and watermelons are preferred by adult striped cucumber beetles. They also feed on beans, peas, corn and blossoms of several wild and cultivated plants. Larvae develop on these and related cucurbits. The spotted cucumber beetle has a wider host range and, in addition to cucurbits, may be found on beans, peas, potato, beet, tomato, eggplant and cabbage. The larvae is the well-known southern corn rootworm which feeds on the roots of corn, peanuts, small grains and many wild grasses

If you see this guy in your garden or yard , KILL HIM IMMEDIATELY eek They look like lady bugs but are not. The next time you see him he will have a lot of friends with him. They eat leaves and new growth and also eat the insides/pollen of the blossoms . When they eat the inside of the blossoms you will not get any cucumbers or squash. They also carry a disease called bacterial wilt.

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Re: TFF Gardening Thread [Re: DHFisher] #4853871 05/13/10 04:41 PM
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Originally Posted By: DHFisher
Okra - two inches tall, turning brown and getting limp.

I'm pretty sure I know whats wrong. I remember I had a half bag of peat this spring and I used that for the top couple inches of my beds. Well, peat = acidic, duh.

The plants that are able to get below that, such as, the tomatoes and peppers are doing fine but the plants that are young and have a shallow root system are failing... squash, cucumbers and okra.

So, the question is, can I ammend the soil with plants already started to counteract the peat? I think I'm gonna start over with the okra but the other plants are sorta established.
You'd probably be better served by getting a container and filling it with some sort of garden soil and then transplanting the plants to the container for a week or so...Then amend the soil and replant them where you want them...Do this in the earlier part of the day and give them plenty of water to offset the shock of transplanting...

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CUCUMBER BEETLEFeed on Cucumbers, cantaloupes, winter squash, pumpkins, gourds, summer squash and watermelons are preferred by adult striped cucumber beetles. They also feed on beans, peas, corn and blossoms of several wild and cultivated plants. Larvae develop on these and related cucurbits. The spotted cucumber beetle has a wider host range and, in addition to cucurbits, may be found on beans, peas, potato, beet, tomato, eggplant and cabbage. The larvae is the well-known southern corn rootworm which feeds on the roots of corn, peanuts, small grains and many wild grasses

If you see this guy in your garden or yard , KILL HIM IMMEDIATELY eek They look like lady bugs but are not. The next time you see him he will have a lot of friends with him. They eat leaves and new growth and also eat the insides/pollen of the blossoms . When they eat the inside of the blossoms you will not get any cucumbers or squash. They also carry a disease called bacterial wilt.
Good information...thumb

Re: TFF Gardening Thread [Re: Tin Head] #4854111 05/13/10 05:25 PM
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If you see this guy in your garden or yard , KILL HIM IMMEDIATELY eek They look like lady bugs but are not. The next time you see him he will have a lot of friends with him. They eat leaves and new growth and also eat the insides/pollen of the blossoms . When they eat the inside of the blossoms you will not get any cucumbers or squash. They also carry a disease called bacterial wilt.


Holy smokes! I saw about 10 of those yesterday crawling on the corn leaves and wondered what they were. Also, my peas were eaten to the ground by what I assumed was cut worms. Wonder if if was these little suckers.

Can I use Sevin dust or do I need something else?


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You should be able to nuke them with sevin, I am going organic so I am using retenone and neem oil. These little suckers are bad news. The larva from them go under the soil and attack the roots of the plant. If you dont want to nuke everything get a spray that has a stream on it and hit each one with a spray. There quick and more active in the mornings/ealry. Dont forget though the eggs and larva will be harder to see and treat. I am going to drench the soil at the plant base once all this rain passes with neem oil. Once there gone dont stop treating, they have about 3 generations through out the growing season. Ladybugs should take care of their eggs. Be careful if you nuke everything with sevin because sevin kills EVERYTHING it will also kill bees which are the plants pollinators.

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Re: TFF Gardening Thread [Re: Tin Head] #4858445 05/14/10 03:37 PM
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I just harvested my first 2 yellow squash and 2 sugary grape tomatoes...banana I should be harvesting more next week...bannana2

Re: TFF Gardening Thread [Re: LoneStarSon] #4858631 05/14/10 04:19 PM
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Had 4 more flowers on my sad looking yellow squash plants today. They were all males so I pinched em.

I can't wait to harvest some squash!



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Re: TFF Gardening Thread [Re: Tin Head] #4858741 05/14/10 04:44 PM
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Are there any great choices for colorful flowers that do well in mostly shade?

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Originally Posted By: ItsZep
Are there any great choices for colorful flowers that do well in mostly shade?


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Are there any great choices for colorful flowers that do well in mostly shade?


Try knockout roses. I like caladiums for color in the shade.


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Re: TFF Gardening Thread [Re: bill oxner] #4859080 05/14/10 06:02 PM
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I've got some impatiens going nuts. They get morning sun then full shade all day.



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is that english?

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I have caladiums...love them...very hardy...will make it until Oct/Nov....but wanted a colorful flower....I consider caladiums more of a plant....but thanks

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Originally Posted By: ItsZep
Are there any great choices for colorful flowers that do well in mostly shade?


I grow azaleas, hydrangeas , begonias , coleus , caladium and impatiens under two large oak trees.

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