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Re: water moccasin??? [Re: Lake Fork Guide Zach Hughes] #4772705 04/23/10 05:28 PM
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Picture is to fuzzy to tell for sure. Markings make me say water snake. Water mocassins have almost no markings. They are pretty much solid with lighter bellies than a water snake. They also have a blunter tail. The head is too out of focus so I cannot tell by it. I used to hunt them as a kid. The neighbors loved it when I walked down the street with one.


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Re: water moccasin??? [Re: Stump jumper] #4773579 04/23/10 08:40 PM
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Remember when Richard Pryor ran on water, when the piranha was tearinig his @$$ up? That would have been me, trying to get away from that snake....I'm not scared of them, I just don't like them

Re: water moccasin??? [Re: L a r r y] #4774271 04/23/10 11:35 PM
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Water snake no doubt about it. Should have whacked him with that paddle, the only good snake is a Dead snake!

Re: water moccasin??? [Re: bobcat4118] #4774278 04/23/10 11:38 PM
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They are very aggresive

Re: water moccasin??? [Re: bobcat4118] #4774365 04/24/10 12:15 AM
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Originally Posted By: bobcat4118
Water snake no doubt about it. Should have whacked him with that paddle, the only good snake is a Dead snake!


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Re: water moccasin??? [Re: RedRaider3933] #4774411 04/24/10 12:38 AM
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It is a banded water snake! They are very aggressive and stink!! They do have triangular heads and mock a cottonmouth!!! The only easy way to tell is the eyes!! All poisonous snakes have cat eyes and look like a slit in the eye.


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Re: water moccasin??? [Re: RedRaider3933] #4774412 04/24/10 12:39 AM
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whatever! let any of you fella's pick that "banded water snake" up, haha! Cotton Mouth. Look how fat it is where it's hanging in pic #1, and looks like an arrowhead to me.

Re: water moccasin??? [Re: 1jonmon] #4774770 04/24/10 02:31 AM
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It is a banded watersnake. Using head shape is a poor method of identifying a venomous snake. Here is a photo of a juvenile and you can see is has a pointed head most would consider a "diamond" shaped head.

http://media.photobucket.com/image/banded%20water%20snake/reptileman93/BandedWaterSnake1.jpg



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Re: water moccasin??? [Re: Pope1] #4775288 04/24/10 04:34 AM
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Water Moccasin absolutely! cheers
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Re: water moccasin??? [Re: ILive2Fish] #4775306 04/24/10 04:40 AM
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Try this link for Western Water Moccasin. Some pretty good photos.

http://www.greglasley.net/wcottonmouth.html


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Re: water moccasin??? [Re: ILive2Fish] #4775354 04/24/10 04:51 AM
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It looks like it is the bad boy. The only way to tell for sure is capture and look to see if the bands extend around the belly. If they extend ever so slightly its not. The other is the eye pupil is slit horizantaly on the moccasin. Until you know for sure by a glance better to play it safe. They have a tendency to be thicker at the tail end then dimond back water snakes.The rising water had one up in my yard today and it got away from me in the bushes. My place is loaded with water snakes and todays was a moccasin. I hate that it got away, makes me really nerous working in the yard.

Re: water moccasin??? [Re: ILive2Fish] #4775385 04/24/10 05:00 AM
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Thanks for the link live2fish. Definitely Agkistrodon piscivorus. Below is its' closest relative Agkistrodon contortrix. The link at the bottom is the link to my photobucket account. I should have some Nerodia(water snakes) shots in there as well along with lots of shots of my boy in "snake action."




http://s71.photobucket.com/albums/i144/TunaPope/


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Re: water moccasin??? [Re: Pope1] #4775625 04/24/10 09:45 AM
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Cotton mouths are thick in the middle and have a stubby tail. Chalky color when dry and dark in water.


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Re: water moccasin??? [Re: ragged edge] #4775776 04/24/10 12:12 PM
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This thread is why Ross Perot said
"If it's a snake kill it! Don't appoint a comittee on snakes.


Re: water moccasin??? [Re: cedarcreekevin41] #4776020 04/24/10 01:50 PM
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It would be in your best interest to pretend every snake was a moccasin and give it a wide path

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