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Re: TFF Gardening Thread [Re: sputterfuss] #4735950 04/14/10 09:28 PM
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Originally Posted By: sputterfuss
Pill bugs, doodle bugs, rolly polly are most often refered to on insecticide lables as sow beetles.
I'm more likely to call an antlion a doodle bug. Had to research this one, turns out the antlion is the larva of a brown flying insect. Looks similar to the green lacewing but much larger, 3" long or more.

Wow, you learn somthin' new every day. grin

Green lacewing larvae look similar to lady bug larvae, with larger chewing mouth parts. In both instances it is the larvae that prey on aphids, thrips, whiteflies, and such; not the adults.

I think adults eat some aphids, just not nearly as much as the larvae.

Sow beetles can be controlled by the same means as slugs and snails. Not sure if the beer in a cup trick would work on sow beetles.


Yeah , that's what I tell my fellow Baptists when we meet at the beer store. "I'm just buying snail bait." cheers

Re: TFF Gardening Thread [Re: mysavioreigns] #4736003 04/14/10 09:39 PM
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Was planning on installing 2 more rain barrels tomorrow, until I did a bit looking on the internet. Apparently the runoff from roofs is some nasty, nasty stuff. Contains all kinds of bad chemicals and metals, and you're not supposed to use it for watering vegetables.

Oops. blush

So, dang. Do you pay for using "clean" water from the tap (which actually contains chlorine) or do you put unhealthy chemicals into your plants?



I use the roof runoff for the flowers and the water from a 1900 gallon fish pond for the veggies. I have used the roof water on chilis grown in containers with no ill effects. If you're worried you can always put a few barrels out in the yard someplace.

Re: TFF Gardening Thread [Re: Tin Head] #4736037 04/14/10 09:47 PM
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Went looking for a bird house to see if I can get some birds in to take care of the bugs. i found a blue bird house that I am going to mount close to the garden. Any one have any luck bringing the birds in?


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Originally Posted By: Tin Head
Went looking for a bird house to see if I can get some birds in to take care of the bugs. i found a blue bird house that I am going to mount close to the garden. Any one have any luck bringing the birds in?


Did you see my cage to keep birds OUT? Actually, we have a feeder near the house, and it doesn't take long for the birds to find it. The problem with birds is as soon as tomatoes or peppers start to show any red, the birds peck at them... mad


What part of "uphold the constitution" don't they understand?
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Originally Posted By: Tin Head
Went looking for a bird house to see if I can get some birds in to take care of the bugs. i found a blue bird house that I am going to mount close to the garden. Any one have any luck bringing the birds in?


Did you see my cage to keep birds OUT? Actually, we have a feeder near the house, and it doesn't take long for the birds to find it. The problem with birds is as soon as tomatoes or peppers start to show any red, the birds peck at them... mad


Some birds ( mockingbirds, chickens , etc.) do peck at red fruits. Bluebirds and Purple Martins don't (IME).

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Originally Posted By: Tin Head
Went looking for a bird house to see if I can get some birds in to take care of the bugs. i found a blue bird house that I am going to mount close to the garden. Any one have any luck bringing the birds in?


Did you see my cage to keep birds OUT? Actually, we have a feeder near the house, and it doesn't take long for the birds to find it. The problem with birds is as soon as tomatoes or peppers start to show any red, the birds peck at them... mad


Some birds ( mockingbirds, chickens , etc.) do peck at red fruits. Bluebirds and Purple Martins don't (IME).


Dead birds don't pick at anything.


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Originally Posted By: Tin Head
Went looking for a bird house to see if I can get some birds in to take care of the bugs. i found a blue bird house that I am going to mount close to the garden. Any one have any luck bringing the birds in?


Did you see my cage to keep birds OUT? Actually, we have a feeder near the house, and it doesn't take long for the birds to find it. The problem with birds is as soon as tomatoes or peppers start to show any red, the birds peck at them... mad


Some birds ( mockingbirds, chickens , etc.) do peck at red fruits. Bluebirds and Purple Martins don't (IME).
I have faith that the dog will keep them away if need be, if not I will take care of them,lol. I have birds in the garden all year long. The only problems I ever had from birds was in the dead heat of summer when they are looking for water. Most times I have seen them they were pecking at the plants but they were taking bugs. Birds picking peppers are some bad ars birds,lol, theres not much that will mess with peppers. Ill watch it and if it turns into a problem Ill move it away.

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Birds picking peppers are some bad ars birds,lol, theres not much that will mess with peppers. Ill watch it and if it turns into a problem Ill move it away.


It was just bell peppers they were getting into, not jalapeos. My wife wanted to let them fully ripen and change colors on the vine, but had to start picking them green.


What part of "uphold the constitution" don't they understand?
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Tomatoes are really starting to look bad. After doing some research I believe the pH of my mix is too low due to the amount of peat I used. Although, the peas and peppers are looking good. So, what can I ammend my soil with? Also, would it be beneficial to add some chicken or cow poo compost as well as some fertilizer specific for tomatoes?

This is the first year for my raised beds so I'm sure it needs some tinkerin



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Originally Posted By: DHFisher
Tomatoes are really starting to look bad. After doing some research I believe the pH of my mix is too low due to the amount of peat I used. Although, the peas and peppers are looking good. So, what can I ammend my soil with? Also, would it be beneficial to add some chicken or cow poo compost as well as some fertilizer specific for tomatoes?

This is the first year for my raised beds so I'm sure it needs some tinkerin


I'm in the same boat, DH, and I'll bet it's for the same reason. I was actually going to add some fertilizer tonight around the tomato plants. I'll let you know how it goes.




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Tomatoes are really starting to look bad. After doing some research I believe the pH of my mix is too low due to the amount of peat I used. Although, the peas and peppers are looking good. So, what can I ammend my soil with? Also, would it be beneficial to add some chicken or cow poo compost as well as some fertilizer specific for tomatoes?

This is the first year for my raised beds so I'm sure it needs some tinkerin


I'm in the same boat, DH, and I'll bet it's for the same reason. I was actually going to add some fertilizer tonight around the tomato plants. I'll let you know how it goes.
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Tomatoes are really starting to look bad. After doing some research I believe the pH of my mix is too low due to the amount of peat I used. Although, the peas and peppers are looking good. So, what can I ammend my soil with? Also, would it be beneficial to add some chicken or cow poo compost as well as some fertilizer specific for tomatoes?

This is the first year for my raised beds so I'm sure it needs some tinkerin
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Tomatoes are really starting to look bad. After doing some research I believe the pH of my mix is too low due to the amount of peat I used. Although, the peas and peppers are looking good. So, what can I ammend my soil with? Also, would it be beneficial to add some chicken or cow poo compost as well as some fertilizer specific for tomatoes?

This is the first year for my raised beds so I'm sure it needs some tinkerin


I'm in the same boat, DH, and I'll bet it's for the same reason. I was actually going to add some fertilizer tonight around the tomato plants. I'll let you know how it goes.
I would suggest both of you add some gypsum to the soil...

DH, you may want to get a general fertilizer...Something along a 15-15-15 and add that as well to the soil...

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Also, a little limestone would really be helpful for the tomatoes...

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I'll try the gypsum, limestone and fertilizer.

Last year I grew a couple tomatoes in a pots with a generic soil and they didn't really take off until I dug a hole and slid a fish carcass underneath the plant....



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Birds don't feel the heat from peppers. A good way to keep squirrels out of your bird feeder is to sprinkle the seed with pepper.

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I need help

Man , I have got a cutworm in the tomatoes. When do they feed , at night? I know the best way is to put a cut plastic cup at the base. What else can I do since I have a soaker hose running through the middle of each plant and will have to raise the soaker hose in order to put the cups. I am trying tostay organinc but If need be the chemicals will have to come out..... bang





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