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Re: TFF Gardening Thread
[Re: Tin Head]
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04/02/10 10:36 PM
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Siberman
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Do you guys use soaker hoses or drip systems, just spray the whole yard? I used to just water and spray everything but I dont think thats the way to do it right. Last year I went to the depot and made a drip system with water lines going to the base of each plant, pretty cheap. I think i am going to do the same this year but install a timer on the faucet for even more convenience. There ya go. I built a framework in my garden to support a drip system for my tomatoes and chilis. There's a couple of vinyards in Camp County that use the same system on their vines. Sprinklers waste a lot of water (especially in high heat and wind). I also run soaker hoses down the rows during summer.
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Re: TFF Gardening Thread
[Re: Siberman]
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04/02/10 10:41 PM
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I've got two Redbud trees that were covered with honeybees this week. Yeah, I know, the flowers are more purple than red. OK not trying to hijack this thread, but 22 trout and 1 crappie? Where do you Live?
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Re: TFF Gardening Thread
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04/02/10 11:05 PM
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Siberman
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Titus County. I don't get out much.
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Re: TFF Gardening Thread
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04/03/10 02:52 AM
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Here's a question I'm hoping some of you long-time farmers can answer. Today I built what I consider the "original" type of bed, as opposed to my Square Foot Garden raised beds. I've got about 6 rows, as you can see in the picture. So if I wanted to set up a soaker hose or some type of watering in this bed, would I run the water to the "valleys" or up on top of the hills, where the seeds are planted (corn, beans, & squash)? I'll be throwing quite a bit of hay on top of this in the next few days for mulch, so I want to get the water set up now on it. Also, I am planning on fertilizing this bed when the corn sets its tassels, so would I put the manure on the hills, or in the valleys? Thanks
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Re: TFF Gardening Thread
[Re: Tin Head]
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04/03/10 03:32 AM
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Do you guys use soaker hoses or drip systems, just spray the whole yard? I used to just water and spray everything but I dont think thats the way to do it right. Last year I went to the depot and made a drip system with water lines going to the base of each plant, pretty cheap. I think i am going to do the same this year but install a timer on the faucet for even more convenience. What sort of hose did you use to make the drip system? Did you just poke a couple of small holes at each plant?
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Re: TFF Gardening Thread
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04/03/10 03:46 AM
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For soaker hose or drip, run the line on top of th bed. The old school design of bed and furrow was for what today is considered a type of flood irrigation. In this application water is pumped down the rows(valleys). Not very efficient, not only as far as water usage is concerned, but also when adressing cost of fuel to pump the resource. That being said, I'm all about old school. In small plots the lack of efficiency is neglegable. When fertilizing commercial corn, be it for fresh market or grain, I've always applied dry fertilizer before planting, or liquid at no later than knee high. I'm not suggesting you flatten those pretty beds, but manure is best incorporated into the soil. I would certainly side dress the beds with the manure before placing the hay as a mulch. Hope this helps.
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Re: TFF Gardening Thread
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04/03/10 03:46 AM
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You can get a drip kit with accesories and 1/2" and 1/4" lines and 1-4gph "drippers" that you put on each tentacle you add to the main 1/2" line. They're like $20. I actually have several of those at some plants and then have a couple of small directional sprayers that'll hit an entire 4x4 bed at once.
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Re: TFF Gardening Thread
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04/03/10 03:50 AM
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mysavioreigns
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For soaker hose or drip, run the line on top of th bed. The old school design of bed and furrow was for what today is considered a type of flood irrigation. In this application water is pumped down the rows(valleys). Not very efficient, not only as far as water usage is concerned, but also when adressing cost of fuel to pump the resource. That being said, I'm all about old school. In small plots the lack of efficiency is neglegable. When fertilizing commercial corn, be it for fresh market or grain, I've always applied dry fertilizer before planting, or liquid at no later than knee high. I'm not suggesting you flatten those pretty beds, but manure is best incorporated into the soil. I would certainly side dress the beds with the manure before placing the hay as a mulch. Hope this helps. Thanks sputterfuss. A few weeks ago before tilling I worked in some compost and manure, but you're right - I probably need to add a little more. I might also try to track down some fish emulsion or another liquid fert. for later on as well.
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Re: TFF Gardening Thread
[Re: mysavioreigns]
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04/03/10 04:17 AM
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sputterfuss
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Hey man, if you've allready incorporated the manure then your good to go! Seriously anything more could be overkill. Never have used fish emulsion though, can't speak to it's virtures. Should make a fine liquid fertilizer at about knee high. Thing with corn is, once the silks are set on the ears and the tassle has emerged from the top of the plant, pollination has begun. At this time fertilizing the soil is unnecessary.
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Re: TFF Gardening Thread
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04/03/10 03:41 PM
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You can get kits at Wal-Mart , Lowe's and Home Depot. I built a framework of landscape timbers and 1 x 4s (about 7' high) then attached the main line to the top. That way I can move all of the smaller hoses out of the way and have room to till. You poke a hole over the plant and attach a smaller hose with a dripper on the end. I then attach the dripper to the tomato cage or stake with a small zip tie. The vineyards I mentioned run the main line about 2' high and stick the drippers directly into it.
You can get drippers that'll run anywhere from 1 to 10 gallons an hour. Saves a lot of time and water.
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Re: TFF Gardening Thread
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04/03/10 07:47 PM
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My onions are itty bitty things and the plant portion is stating to grow a flower. What does that mean?
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Re: TFF Gardening Thread
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04/03/10 08:48 PM
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My onions are itty bitty things and the plant portion is stating to grow a flower. What does that mean? It means the onions believe they have completed 2 life cycles...This can stunt, or 'bolt', the growth of the onion and usually will keep it from getting bigger...I generally remove the flowering stalk and leave the onion...It won't get as big as the others, but will grow some. This is caused because of the temperature fluctuations we have been experiencing...I've had about 20 plants that have done that and I just pinched off the flower before it had a chance to bloom...
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Re: TFF Gardening Thread
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04/03/10 09:33 PM
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Tin Head
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I got some cilantro growing and it has flowers that are poping out. What does this mean? The last time it did that I got no cilantro and about 15 plants out in the yard the next season. Should I cut the part that has the flower, trim down the plant?
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Re: TFF Gardening Thread
[Re: Tin Head]
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04/03/10 11:29 PM
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LoneStarSon
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I got some cilantro growing and it has flowers that are poping out. What does this mean? The last time it did that I got no cilantro and about 15 plants out in the yard the next season. Should I cut the part that has the flower, trim down the plant? I've never grown cilantro, but from what I've just read, I would say it too is bolting...Apparently this can happen quickly, especially in warm weather...I've seen it suggested that once it flowers you take the seeds from there and replant them, harvesting the cilantro every couple of weeks... Here is a link to a site I found with this info... Clicky
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Re: TFF Gardening Thread
[Re: LoneStarSon]
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04/04/10 02:54 PM
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deerfeeder
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Thanks LSS, appreciate it a bunch.
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