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Re: Wild Black Cat! Panther? Jaguarundi? House Cat on Steroids?
[Re: raiderLUVjen]
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04/03/10 01:57 AM
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T Chester
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How many posts can this thread actually get, crazy stuff. Look it up on wikepedia. Very good information. S
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Re: Wild Black Cat! Panther? Jaguarundi? House Cat on Steroids?
[Re: Pope1]
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04/03/10 11:02 PM
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Jaguars have been extirpated from Texas for nearly 100 years and jaguarundis are exceedingly rare in Texas and are only known along the Rio Grande as it draws near the Gulf. This eliminates these as a possibility.
last jaguar was hit by a car in 1986 north eastish of Brownsville.
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Re: Wild Black Cat! Panther? Jaguarundi? House Cat on Steroids?
[Re: raiderLUVjen]
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04/04/10 04:49 AM
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jeff cohen
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its a its a cat. period. feline. ive got pictures of a hairless yote dog that people said was a chupacabra. but in the end its a yote with mange
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Re: Wild Black Cat! Panther? Jaguarundi? House Cat on Steroids?
[Re: Bassman74]
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04/05/10 05:25 AM
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Black Panther
The black panther is actually a black leopard and these cats are born in the same litter as normally marked cats and also carry the rosette markings. The spotted markings are masked by the darkness of the fur.
The melantistic leopard (the term used for the black cat) is most generally found in the dense, wet forested areas of India and south east Asia, where the coloration gives the cat a hunting advantage.
Black leopards (the so-called "black panthers" ... often wrongfully mistaken for a cougar) occur most frequently in humid forest habitats (Kingdon 1977), but are merely a color variation, not a subspecies.
Melanistic ... derived from melanin, a dark coloured skin and hair pigment. This melanism in cats results in the fur of the animal being very dark or black in colour.
The spotted markings of the animal can be faintly seen through the dark fur, especially at certain angles in bright sunlight.
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Re: Wild Black Cat! Panther? Jaguarundi? House Cat on Steroids?
[Re: Bassman74]
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04/05/10 05:27 AM
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Re: Wild Black Cat! Panther? Jaguarundi? House Cat on Steroids?
[Re: Bassman74]
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04/05/10 05:38 AM
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Black Panther Myth Reality? By John Young Do black panthers really exist? Yes, they are the rare black phase of the spotted leopard (Panthera pardus) which is found in Africa, Asia, Indonesia, and USA. or The rarest plant in Texas? By Jackie M. Poole Species Name: Texas wild-rice (Zizania texana) Range: Probably qualifies for the dubious honor of being the rarest plant in Texas. This aquatic grass only grows in the upper two miles of the San Marcos River, primarily within the city limits of San Marcos. Status: The species was the first federally and state listed endangered plant in Texas. Description: This elegant perennial produces long, narrow leaves that undulate with the river current. Only the upper portion of the plant occasionally rises out of the water to produce small, separate male and female flowers. The seeds are a smaller version of its commercial cousin, the cultivated wild-rice. Texas wild-rice establishes in coarse riverbed sands, and prefers to be submerged in water about one to six feet deep. Limiting Factors: One reason why this species may have such a limited range is its reliance on the extremely clear, thermally constant (72-75 F), fast flowing water that occurs in Texas only in the San Marcos and Comal Rivers. Threats:With its habitat requirements, limited range and occurrence in an urban area, there are many threats to the species. The primary threat is cessation of spring flow. The San Marcos Springs are fed by the Edwards aquifer which is the primary source of water for the city of San Antonio as well as many other cities, farms, ranches and individuals from Bexar to Uvalde counties. Several studies have shown that Texas wild-rice requires at least several inches of water flowing over the plants in order to survive. Other threats include non-native animals (for example, nutria and giant rams-horn snails) and plants (such as hydrilla, elephant ears and water hyacinth), water pollution, habitat modification (such as dams, channelization and siltation), and over-zealous recreation. Where Can We View It: The best place to see Texas wild-rice is in Sewell Park at Southwest Texas State University in San Marcos. For more information, the San Marcos/Comal (Revised) Recovery Plan (available from the U.S. Fish and Wildlife Service) has an overview of all aspects of the plants biology, habitat and threats as well as similar information for all the rare species in these unique aquatic systems. Jackie Poole is a Botanist with the Wildlife Diversity Branch working out of Austin offices. The jaguar (Panthera onca), which occurs from northern Mexico through much of South America, also has a rare black phase. In both of these species the normal spotting pattern can be seen through the black. Panther is the often-used name in East Texas for the large cat commonly called mountain lion in other parts of the state. Cougar, catamount, and puma are other names also used for this species (Felis concolour). This large cat varies in color from light tan and gray to dark versions of those colors. Do black mountain lions exist in America? Despite numerous reports of black panthers, a black specimen or skin has never seen the light of day in Texas or anywhere else in North America despite the tens of thousands of animals that have been killed. There are a few, old and unverified reports of black mountain lions from South America, but once again, no specimen exists. J. B. Tinsley, author of The puma, legendary lion of the Americas, states that although there are frequent reports, no authenticated records of black panthers exist anywhere in North America. So what are people seeing? Dark brown and dark gray mountain lions may appear black in dim light or when wet. And, considering that the majority of panther sightings last less than five seconds it is easy to misidentify a black cat, dog, bear, hog or otter as a panther. It is possible that some reports may be sightings of black jaguars or black leopards (panthers) that have escaped or been released from captivity. Breeders of big cats, including leopards, are numerous in the US, particularly Texas; and some animals may have been released when owners were unable to comply with new regulations or the animals were no longer controllable. However, there is no evidence that this has ever happened. Could a black mountain lion appear in a population where none had occurred before? Yes, because a single mutation would be all it would take and that is how black phases came about in leopards and jaguars. So thats why you can never say never. But biologists will remain highly skeptical of black mountain lion reports until an actual skin or specimen lands on someones desk. John Young is Wildlife Diversity Mammalogist working out of the Austin offices.
Ricky Brewer
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Re: Wild Black Cat! Panther? Jaguarundi? House Cat on Steroids?
[Re: Will Day]
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04/05/10 06:16 AM
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thats not a jaguarundi, jaguarundis' heads resemble more of an otter than a cat, probably a monster house cat
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Re: Wild Black Cat! Panther? Jaguarundi? House Cat on Steroids?
[Re: MaroonFF]
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04/05/10 12:39 PM
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DHFisher
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The jaw line doesn't look right to be a panther and the head isn't right for a jaguarundi. It's a house cat
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Re: Wild Black Cat! Panther? Jaguarundi? House Cat on Steroids?
[Re: Bassman74]
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04/05/10 06:02 PM
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Black Panther Myth Reality? By John Young Do black panthers really exist? Yes, they are the rare black phase of the spotted leopard (Panthera pardus) which is found in Africa, Asia, Indonesia, and USA. or The rarest plant in Texas? By Jackie M. Poole Species Name: Texas wild-rice (Zizania texana) Range: Probably qualifies for the dubious honor of being the rarest plant in Texas. This aquatic grass only grows in the upper two miles of the San Marcos River, primarily within the city limits of San Marcos. Status: The species was the first federally and state listed endangered plant in Texas. Description: This elegant perennial produces long, narrow leaves that undulate with the river current. Only the upper portion of the plant occasionally rises out of the water to produce small, separate male and female flowers. The seeds are a smaller version of its commercial cousin, the cultivated wild-rice. Texas wild-rice establishes in coarse riverbed sands, and prefers to be submerged in water about one to six feet deep. Limiting Factors: One reason why this species may have such a limited range is its reliance on the extremely clear, thermally constant (72-75 F), fast flowing water that occurs in Texas only in the San Marcos and Comal Rivers. Threats:With its habitat requirements, limited range and occurrence in an urban area, there are many threats to the species. The primary threat is cessation of spring flow. The San Marcos Springs are fed by the Edwards aquifer which is the primary source of water for the city of San Antonio as well as many other cities, farms, ranches and individuals from Bexar to Uvalde counties. Several studies have shown that Texas wild-rice requires at least several inches of water flowing over the plants in order to survive. Other threats include non-native animals (for example, nutria and giant rams-horn snails) and plants (such as hydrilla, elephant ears and water hyacinth), water pollution, habitat modification (such as dams, channelization and siltation), and over-zealous recreation. Where Can We View It: The best place to see Texas wild-rice is in Sewell Park at Southwest Texas State University in San Marcos. For more information, the San Marcos/Comal (Revised) Recovery Plan (available from the U.S. Fish and Wildlife Service) has an overview of all aspects of the plants biology, habitat and threats as well as similar information for all the rare species in these unique aquatic systems. Jackie Poole is a Botanist with the Wildlife Diversity Branch working out of Austin offices. The jaguar (Panthera onca), which occurs from northern Mexico through much of South America, also has a rare black phase. In both of these species the normal spotting pattern can be seen through the black. Panther is the often-used name in East Texas for the large cat commonly called mountain lion in other parts of the state. Cougar, catamount, and puma are other names also used for this species (Felis concolour). This large cat varies in color from light tan and gray to dark versions of those colors. Do black mountain lions exist in America? Despite numerous reports of black panthers, a black specimen or skin has never seen the light of day in Texas or anywhere else in North America despite the tens of thousands of animals that have been killed. There are a few, old and unverified reports of black mountain lions from South America, but once again, no specimen exists. J. B. Tinsley, author of The puma, legendary lion of the Americas, states that although there are frequent reports, no authenticated records of black panthers exist anywhere in North America. So what are people seeing? Dark brown and dark gray mountain lions may appear black in dim light or when wet. And, considering that the majority of panther sightings last less than five seconds it is easy to misidentify a black cat, dog, bear, hog or otter as a panther. It is possible that some reports may be sightings of black jaguars or black leopards (panthers) that have escaped or been released from captivity. Breeders of big cats, including leopards, are numerous in the US, particularly Texas; and some animals may have been released when owners were unable to comply with new regulations or the animals were no longer controllable. However, there is no evidence that this has ever happened. Could a black mountain lion appear in a population where none had occurred before? Yes, because a single mutation would be all it would take and that is how black phases came about in leopards and jaguars. So thats why you can never say never. But biologists will remain highly skeptical of black mountain lion reports until an actual skin or specimen lands on someones desk. Nu uh, you dont know, LOL
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Re: Wild Black Cat! Panther? Jaguarundi? House Cat on Steroids?
[Re: Dude Briggs 28]
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04/05/10 06:51 PM
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Judge Smails
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Re: Wild Black Cat! Panther? Jaguarundi? House Cat on Steroids?
[Re: Will Day]
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04/08/10 11:19 PM
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Wow what a huge cat. That thing looks awesome though. Cool if it was in fact a black panther.
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Re: Wild Black Cat! Panther? Jaguarundi? House Cat on Steroids?
[Re: czoom]
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04/09/10 01:54 AM
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I cant believe this thread is still going!
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Re: Wild Black Cat! Panther? Jaguarundi? House Cat on Steroids?
[Re: Shep M]
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04/09/10 02:13 AM
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Re: Wild Black Cat! Panther? Jaguarundi? House Cat on Steroids?
[Re: Bass&More]
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