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Re: TFF Gardening Thread [Re: madchad] #4664045 03/27/10 10:28 PM
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I am tilling the garden right now getting ready to plant. Last year I had the soil tested and added everything that was missing(so I thought). My plants still did not produce though. At the end of the season when I pulled the plants the root systems were better but still small to me and the soil still felt to dense. I just got a pick up bed full of compost to add to the soil (7'X14') and have been tilling yesterday and today and still have about 2 more days to go until it really dries out and mixes evenly. I do all organic and hope this year it really produces , the last 2 years sucked.
Anyone know where I can find some chicken poop or any other poop that I can add in now while I am tilling? I tried to use bat poop last year but its expensive and would cost to much to try and till in.

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Re: TFF Gardening Thread [Re: Tin Head] #4664151 03/27/10 11:08 PM
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If you were in the mid-cities area. Green Mamma's in NRH has some good stuff.

Re: TFF Gardening Thread [Re: LoneStarSon] #4664624 03/28/10 01:06 AM
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Great thread, LSS!
My wife always gets frustrated. She tries growing tomatoes and peppers, and as soon as they start to ripen, the birds come along and peck one hole in each of them, as if they are making fun of her. When she grows cantaloupe or squash, she gets fire-ant bit when harvesting. She will not eat anything that has had poison around it, so I couldn't keep the ants out. Netting on tomatoes, meant holes poked in every tomato that touched the netting. This year I decided was going to be her year, so I built her an anti-bird cage, with everything raised up to "no-bending" height for comfort AND so I can keep the ants poisoned away from the growing soil. While building it, she decided that she might want more than it would hold, so I raised some containers for plants the birds tend to ignore outside the cage.


Door is on the back side of this picture, shelves are slanted away from the walkway so watering doesn't leave you with wet feet.


This cage is 8'x8'x8', and I used one 16' cattle panel cut in half to make tomato supports. These panels hang in notches cut in 2x4's, and can be pushed back against the wall if not needed. I put removable "windows" behind the tomato trellis to harvest the hard-to-reach beauties. This year, if we fail to have a good harvest, it will be because of my black thumbs or the weather, birds and ants will not be an excuse! Tomatoes are on the south wall so they don't shade the other plants. There is room for smaller plants on the shelf in front of them. All wood is pressure treated, and bird wire is 1" galvanized. The cost for everything(except plants and containers) was between $200 and $250.




What part of "uphold the constitution" don't they understand?
Re: TFF Gardening Thread [Re: AdvTX] #4665110 03/28/10 02:57 AM
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Have six silver lace wyandottes & one production red right now. Got them last May 22 from Ideal Poultry. Avg. four eggs a day right now. Wouldn't necessarily recomend the wyandottes for dissposition, seem more destructive than dominiques we had in the past. Prod. Red is a sweetheart though. I.P. mails them when they are one day old. I was amazed not a single chick perished. Cats do not bother them at all once they get some size on them. Dogs can be a problem, but not as bad as I thought. Can answer many questions about getting started.

Re: TFF Gardening Thread [Re: Henry Hefner] #4665224 03/28/10 03:28 AM
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Originally Posted By: Henry Hefner
Great thread, LSS!
My wife always gets frustrated. She tries growing tomatoes and peppers, and as soon as they start to ripen, the birds come along and peck one hole in each of them, as if they are making fun of her. When she grows cantaloupe or squash, she gets fire-ant bit when harvesting. She will not eat anything that has had poison around it, so I couldn't keep the ants out. Netting on tomatoes, meant holes poked in every tomato that touched the netting. This year I decided was going to be her year, so I built her an anti-bird cage, with everything raised up to "no-bending" height for comfort AND so I can keep the ants poisoned away from the growing soil. While building it, she decided that she might want more than it would hold, so I raised some containers for plants the birds tend to ignore outside the cage.


Door is on the back side of this picture, shelves are slanted away from the walkway so watering doesn't leave you with wet feet.


This cage is 8'x8'x8', and I used one 16' cattle panel cut in half to make tomato supports. These panels hang in notches cut in 2x4's, and can be pushed back against the wall if not needed. I put removable "windows" behind the tomato trellis to harvest the hard-to-reach beauties. This year, if we fail to have a good harvest, it will be because of my black thumbs or the weather, birds and ants will not be an excuse! Tomatoes are on the south wall so they don't shade the other plants. There is room for smaller plants on the shelf in front of them. All wood is pressure treated, and bird wire is 1" galvanized. The cost for everything(except plants and containers) was between $200 and $250.

I used rubber snakes in the garden to repel the birds , it worked.





Re: TFF Gardening Thread [Re: Tin Head] #4665780 03/28/10 12:57 PM
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A couple months back, LSS mentioned Heatwave tomatoes. Well, yours truly messed around with a bunch of other projects and didn't get them started in time. So after questing for them all day yesterday, does anyone know where to buy them in the metromess already growing?

Thanks guys!!!

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Originally Posted By: Kattelyn
A couple months back, LSS mentioned Heatwave tomatoes. Well, yours truly messed around with a bunch of other projects and didn't get them started in time. So after questing for them all day yesterday, does anyone know where to buy them in the metromess already growing?

Thanks guys!!!
I'll see if the store down the road from me still has some and I could maybe be talked into driving somewhere near the metromess to bring them to you...

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Originally Posted By: Henry Hefner
Great thread, LSS!
My wife always gets frustrated. She tries growing tomatoes and peppers, and as soon as they start to ripen, the birds come along and peck one hole in each of them, as if they are making fun of her. When she grows cantaloupe or squash, she gets fire-ant bit when harvesting. She will not eat anything that has had poison around it, so I couldn't keep the ants out. Netting on tomatoes, meant holes poked in every tomato that touched the netting. This year I decided was going to be her year, so I built her an anti-bird cage, with everything raised up to "no-bending" height for comfort AND so I can keep the ants poisoned away from the growing soil. While building it, she decided that she might want more than it would hold, so I raised some containers for plants the birds tend to ignore outside the cage.


Door is on the back side of this picture, shelves are slanted away from the walkway so watering doesn't leave you with wet feet.


This cage is 8'x8'x8', and I used one 16' cattle panel cut in half to make tomato supports. These panels hang in notches cut in 2x4's, and can be pushed back against the wall if not needed. I put removable "windows" behind the tomato trellis to harvest the hard-to-reach beauties. This year, if we fail to have a good harvest, it will be because of my black thumbs or the weather, birds and ants will not be an excuse! Tomatoes are on the south wall so they don't shade the other plants. There is room for smaller plants on the shelf in front of them. All wood is pressure treated, and bird wire is 1" galvanized. The cost for everything(except plants and containers) was between $200 and $250.

Great looking project...How's your shark boat doing?

Re: TFF Gardening Thread [Re: LoneStarSon] #4666628 03/28/10 06:02 PM
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Great looking project...How's your shark boat doing?


Well, it runs fine, and doesn't leak since I fixed the break in a live-well hose, but I think the shark teeth must scare the fish! bolt
It's a good thing that I enjoy fishing almost as much as catching!



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Re: TFF Gardening Thread [Re: Henry Hefner] #4667287 03/28/10 10:17 PM
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Excellent work. Your wife's a lucky lady. thumb

My grandfathers used tin pie plates and ribbon ( you string the long ribbon between the posts then "x" it back over itself : birds apparently think it's a trap) . I've had pretty good luck using old cds and cassette/video tape. Rubber snakes and fake owls are decent but , just like everything else , you have to keep moving them around or the birds get used to them.

Plain old corn meal mix will get rid of fire ants, IME.

I grow cantalopes and small watermelons on my chain-link fence. I cut up old pantyhose and make little hammocks so the fruit doesn't break off the vine. Works really well but I had to start planting them on the outside of the fence as my Huskies developed a taste for 'em. food


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Re: TFF Gardening Thread [Re: sputterfuss] #4667333 03/28/10 10:32 PM
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Originally Posted By: sputterfuss
Have six silver lace wyandottes & one production red right now. Got them last May 22 from Ideal Poultry. Avg. four eggs a day right now. Wouldn't necessarily recomend the wyandottes for dissposition, seem more destructive than dominiques we had in the past. Prod. Red is a sweetheart though. I.P. mails them when they are one day old. I was amazed not a single chick perished. Cats do not bother them at all once they get some size on them. Dogs can be a problem, but not as bad as I thought. Can answer many questions about getting started.


I have my own flock consisting of RI Reds, Polish Crested, Cochin and Mexican Blues. Makes for some interesting looking chicks. wink Do you use them for insect control in the garden ? I never had much luck with chickens ( even bantams ) 'cause they tend to scratch up the roots too much. Guineas , on the other hand , just walk down the rows and pick the bugs off.

Re: TFF Gardening Thread [Re: LoneStarSon] #4667437 03/28/10 11:17 PM
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Originally Posted By: Kattelyn
A couple months back, LSS mentioned Heatwave tomatoes. Well, yours truly messed around with a bunch of other projects and didn't get them started in time. So after questing for them all day yesterday, does anyone know where to buy them in the metromess already growing?

Thanks guys!!!
I'll see if the store down the road from me still has some and I could maybe be talked into driving somewhere near the metromess to bring them to you...



Oh hon that's the sweetest thing! I'm gonna be in Meridian next weekend.... is it anywhere in that general vicinity?

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Originally Posted By: Kattelyn
A couple months back, LSS mentioned Heatwave tomatoes. Well, yours truly messed around with a bunch of other projects and didn't get them started in time. So after questing for them all day yesterday, does anyone know where to buy them in the metromess already growing?

Thanks guys!!!
I'll see if the store down the road from me still has some and I could maybe be talked into driving somewhere near the metromess to bring them to you...



Oh hon that's the sweetest thing! I'm gonna be in Meridian next weekend.... is it anywhere in that general vicinity?
Yes...The Ace Hardware in Meridian has the Homestead Tomatoes and Lampman's in Morgan had the Heatwave...I'll be by both places this week and make certain they have them...

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Originally Posted By: Siberman

Plain old corn meal mix will get rid of fire ants, IME.

I grow cantalopes and small watermelons on my chain-link fence. I cut up old pantyhose and make little hammocks so the fruit doesn't break off the vine. Works really well but I had to start planting them on the outside of the fence as my Huskies developed a taste for 'em. food


Ellis county fire ants seem to thrive on corn meal, or at least I didn't have luck with it when I tried it. I may try the cantaloupe on the fence, we intended to put them beside the tomatoes, but then she bought too many tomato plants...
I think she intends to use the large containers outside for squash.


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Originally Posted By: Henry Hefner
Originally Posted By: Siberman

Plain old corn meal mix will get rid of fire ants, IME.

I grow cantalopes and small watermelons on my chain-link fence. I cut up old pantyhose and make little hammocks so the fruit doesn't break off the vine. Works really well but I had to start planting them on the outside of the fence as my Huskies developed a taste for 'em. food


Ellis county fire ants seem to thrive on corn meal, or at least I didn't have luck with it when I tried it. I may try the cantaloupe on the fence, we intended to put them beside the tomatoes, but then she bought too many tomato plants...
I think she intends to use the large containers outside for squash.
You can NEVER have too many tomato plants...Or at least that seems to have been the guiding thought behind my recent purchases/plantings...bolt

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