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Re: Boat financing question [Re: Capt'n Wings] #4586108 03/10/10 03:45 AM
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Get the biggest baddest boat on the market, finance it for 15-20 years and don't worry.......in this economy if you can't pay for it, someone will bail you out




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Re: Boat financing question [Re: Lowly Net Boy] #4586296 03/10/10 04:26 AM
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guys in my opinion financing a boat thats 8+ years old for more than 4 years doesnt make a lot of sense for 99% of the population. but with that being said, you dont know this guy's situation. He didnt ask for you to make a judgement about whether he should do it, he asked for financing options/help and if anyone knew where he could finance a boat made in the early 2000's for more than 4 years. My opinion either help him or keep your opinions about his finances to yourself.

maybe he has cancer and likes to fish and is going to be gone next year god forbid.... You never know peoples situation. either help the man out or dont. dont judge whether he needs to finance a boat or not.

my two cents





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Re: Boat financing question [Re: Lowly Net Boy] #4586405 03/10/10 05:03 AM
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Get the biggest baddest boat on the market, finance it for 15-20 years and don't worry.......in this economy if you can't pay for it, someone will bail you out




Ya I am sure sometime in the next three years you can skip a entire year in payments if something happens and you get behind. Or better yet you can recieve some kind of 10-15k dollar tax credit if you spend over 50k on a NEW BOAT (it has to be new)

To the original questions normally credit unions will finance anything if you can prove the value. I would not try and fill out boat loans online at all. That will hit your credit and get you nowhere. As for financing a 7+ year old boat for over 48 months probably not going to happen. That is pretty standard anywhere. The only other option would be do a small loan on the difference but if you cant afford it on 4yrs then thats not a good idea. Print the NADA he (with all the options which makes a huge difference) on the boat and present it to a credit union and put at least 20% down and you should be good to go. Have a budget and stick to it no matter what. Good luck bud

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Re: Boat financing question [Re: its a fluke] #4586471 03/10/10 05:29 AM
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We know enough not to advise him to borrow on his retirement.

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Re: Boat financing question [Re: its a fluke] #4586550 03/10/10 06:10 AM
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Originally Posted By: its a fluke
guys in my opinion financing a boat thats 8+ years old for more than 4 years doesnt make a lot of sense for 99% of the population. but with that being said, you dont know this guy's situation. He didnt ask for you to make a judgement about whether he should do it, he asked for financing options/help and if anyone knew where he could finance a boat made in the early 2000's for more than 4 years. My opinion either help him or keep your opinions about his finances to yourself.

maybe he has cancer and likes to fish and is going to be gone next year god forbid.... You never know peoples situation. either help the man out or dont. dont judge whether he needs to finance a boat or not.

my two cents





I agree. As long as his isn't compromising his family's well being it's his descision.
I have a boat financed long term that I pay a note on every month. No way I could ever have afforded to pay cash for it. If I would have followed many people on this forum's advice on waiting I would be missing a photo album full of memories and probably be divorced. Just go into it with your eyes wide open.

My advice would be to check into credit unions. If you can build a relationship with one it makes things much easier.


Re: Boat financing question [Re: firemanbill] #4586583 03/10/10 06:50 AM
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I have my insurance with state farms, I found out they will finance 03' and up for 15 to 20yrs with good credit.


So lets say you finance a $25000 boat for 20 years at 7%.

That means your going to be paying about $193 dollars per month, of that $193 from your first months payment $145 of that is interest expense so only $48 dollars will actually be paid on the principle this will get slightly better but by the time 20 years is up $140 will still be going to interest and only 53 to payment on principle.

So that means over 20 years you will have spent $46,320 on a boat that was valued at $25000 and you now have a paid for 20-25 year old boat worth about $2000 dollars.

Or you could take that $193 dollars every month and put it in an account earning 2-3% and in 5 years you would have the $25000 cash to go out and buy a boat that is 0-5 years old.

Which sounds like a better idea to you?

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Re: Boat financing question [Re: Doug E. Fresh] #4587426 03/10/10 03:27 PM
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Re: Boat financing question [Re: Fatbass] #4587497 03/10/10 03:39 PM
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Have you looked at insurance expense, repairs, operating costs, upgrades (which you will surely want/need), etc, etc, etc?

The payment is only part of the expense of owning a boat.

Going in debt for an investment that will appreciate, not so bad. Going into debt for something that only depreciates and is for recreational use, not so much.




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Pull a modified Dave Ramsey. Make a "boat payment" until you have 3-4k saved up and pay cash for the boat. You'll have to buy less boat than you want, but it'll be payed for. Keep making the boat payment until you have another 3-5K saved. Sell your old boat, plus your cash, and buy a 7-8 K boat. Repeat until you have a 20K boat, saving up 3-5k and trading up. Pros to this method: you'll always have a boat. Your boat will always be paid for. If you fail to make a "boat payment," it won't get repo'ed. You won't have to save up 20K in cash to buy a boat.

Or, borrow the first 4K. Payments will be about 200 per month for two years. Pay the payment for four years. Four years depreciation on a 4K boat leaves it worth 3000 or 3500 or so. Now get on your Dave horse and trade up.

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Originally Posted By: AgFshr10
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I have my insurance with state farms, I found out they will finance 03' and up for 15 to 20yrs with good credit.


So lets say you finance a $25000 boat for 20 years at 7%.

That means your going to be paying about $193 dollars per month, of that $193 from your first months payment $145 of that is interest expense so only $48 dollars will actually be paid on the principle this will get slightly better but by the time 20 years is up $140 will still be going to interest and only 53 to payment on principle.

So that means over 20 years you will have spent $46,320 on a boat that was valued at $25000 and you now have a paid for 20-25 year old boat worth about $2000 dollars.

Or you could take that $193 dollars every month and put it in an account earning 2-3% and in 5 years you would have the $25000 cash to go out and buy a boat that is 0-5 years old.

Which sounds like a better idea to you?


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Re: Boat financing question [Re: Jkf96a] #4588243 03/10/10 06:07 PM
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[quote=Jkf96a]Pull a modified Dave Ramsey. Make a "boat payment" until you have 3-4k saved up and pay cash for the boat. You'll have to buy less boat than you want, but it'll be payed for. Keep making the boat payment until you have another 3-5K saved. Sell your old boat, plus your cash, and buy a 7-8 K boat. Repeat until you have a 20K boat, saving up 3-5k and trading up. Pros to this method: you'll always have a boat. Your boat will always be paid for. If you fail to make a "boat payment," it won't get repo'ed. You won't have to save up 20K in cash to buy a boat.

Or, borrow the first 4K. Payments will be about 200 per month for two years.
Pay the payment for four years. Four years depreciation on a 4K boat leaves it
worth 3000 or 3500 or so. Now get on your Dave horse and trade up.[/quote

that's fine, now while your paying on that older boat, you lose a powerhead, spend the 5k you had saved. Lose another year, finally save another 3k and bust a transome, insurance chalks it upto wear and tear, bc it's an old boat. Now your stuck with a POS you can't sell, and your without a boat


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[quote=Jkf96a]Pull a modified Dave Ramsey. Make a "boat payment" until you have 3-4k saved up and pay cash for the boat. You'll have to buy less boat than you want, but it'll be payed for. Keep making the boat payment until you have another 3-5K saved. Sell your old boat, plus your cash, and buy a 7-8 K boat. Repeat until you have a 20K boat, saving up 3-5k and trading up. Pros to this method: you'll always have a boat. Your boat will always be paid for. If you fail to make a "boat payment," it won't get repo'ed. You won't have to save up 20K in cash to buy a boat.

Or, borrow the first 4K. Payments will be about 200 per month for two years.
Pay the payment for four years. Four years depreciation on a 4K boat leaves it
worth 3000 or 3500 or so. Now get on your Dave horse and trade up.[/quote

that's fine, now while your paying on that older boat, you lose a powerhead, spend the 5k you had saved. Lose another year, finally save another 3k and bust a transome, insurance chalks it upto wear and tear, bc it's an old boat. Now your stuck with a POS you can't sell, and your without a boat


Better thank owing a stupid bank money and driving around in a boat that they own. I would rather have a boat that I own with problems that I have to fix than looking at my bank account and it showing a loan of half my income. Financing isnt all that bad if you have alot of equity going into it. Put alot down if you absolutely have to finance IMO

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Re: Boat financing question [Re: kellisag] #4588369 03/10/10 06:36 PM
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Originally Posted By: AgFshr10
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I have my insurance with state farms, I found out they will finance 03' and up for 15 to 20yrs with good credit.


So lets say you finance a $25000 boat for 20 years at 7%.

That means your going to be paying about $193 dollars per month, of that $193 from your first months payment $145 of that is interest expense so only $48 dollars will actually be paid on the principle this will get slightly better but by the time 20 years is up $140 will still be going to interest and only 53 to payment on principle.

So that means over 20 years you will have spent $46,320 on a boat that was valued at $25000 and you now have a paid for 20-25 year old boat worth about $2000 dollars.

Or you could take that $193 dollars every month and put it in an account earning 2-3% and in 5 years you would have the $25000 cash to go out and buy a boat that is 0-5 years old.

Which sounds like a better idea to you?



Wow, I used an interest calculator and didnt come up with $25,000 in 5 years, any ways, I have been on both ends and can tell you from experience because I financed my first boat for 12 years, you better get a wedding ring for it because you will be married to that thing for a while, I was always upside down on that boat and had a heck of a time unloading it on someone, and it looked practically brand new, with that being said, I wanted a boat so bad I was willing to do anything. If you are going to finance one for that long it needs to be a new one of some kind, I dont think a bank will go that long on an older boat. I do understand wanting one bad, just be prepared to keep it a while.

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