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Re: ETHANOL IN THE GAS [Re: Weekender1] #3660799 07/06/09 07:37 PM
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Originally Posted By: Weekender
Why are they creating a worse fuel? Makes no sense to me at all.

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Because.....the big oil wheels know we will buy it! Even a fraction of a cent margin on sales allows the top executives to buy ENTIRE Islands for their romping pleasure!

Sighhhhh.....I would tell you more but have to get back to my sway-back single-wide!

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Re: ETHANOL IN THE GAS [Re: Weekender1] #3660948 07/06/09 08:31 PM
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Sta-Bill's product is specifically for 2-stroke outboards and our Ethanol situation. No problems with the ETEC. Sta-Bill - Great Product!


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Re: ETHANOL IN THE GAS [Re: Rob Jasper Lowrance Pro-Staff] #3661096 07/06/09 09:14 PM
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Which Sta-Bil. One guy says blue and one says green.



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Re: ETHANOL IN THE GAS [Re: elkhartdom] #3661312 07/06/09 10:07 PM
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Originally Posted By: elkhartdom
+1 on drilling here, we are now the minority and your totally right, the polls is where we need to strike, 2010 lets show them why this country was founded and the principals it was founded on, one person, one vote, no taxation without representation. Down with dictators and would be kings


I agree 100%

At a time that we needed some relief everything just went in the toilet with OBAMA in charge. Look at the mess he has made in just 6 months.

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Re: ETHANOL IN THE GAS [Re: ezbassin] #3661351 07/06/09 10:19 PM
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amen, lets make sure they hear from us all in 2010


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Re: ETHANOL IN THE GAS [Re: Bomber 89] #3661358 07/06/09 10:21 PM
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Originally Posted By: Bomber 89
Which Sta-Bil. One guy says blue and one says green.

the blue one is for marine use. Hope it works as good as its supposed to. I really dont need a blown motor from ethenal


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Re: ETHANOL IN THE GAS [Re: Pro-17] #3661396 07/06/09 10:31 PM
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Originally Posted By: Pro-17
Anyone know of a place in Fort Worth that sells ethanol free?


No the way I underdstand it. If the county has a speed of of 65 or lower on it's highway the have ethanol ( because of ozone). If they have a speed limit of 70 or higher that have ethanol free gas. If you live outside like tarrant county and dallas county you might find ethanol free gas. I know Grandbury has. Get outside the populated counties and you might have luck..

Re: ETHANOL IN THE GAS [Re: coachallentca] #3661409 07/06/09 10:34 PM
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I use the blue sta-bil and seafoam. I hope we try and do like California ( they are trying) and do away with ethonal

Re: ETHANOL IN THE GAS [Re: coachallentca] #3661515 07/06/09 11:10 PM
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oh well i put the red sts-bil in mine seem to work...boat ran better today then the last time..will go to star mart or fishermans one stop to get gas next time..thanks for the info weekender

Re: ETHANOL IN THE GAS [Re: coachallentca] #3662469 07/07/09 03:19 AM
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It has nothing to do with highway speed. It is all about DFW failing EPA pollution regulations.


Originally Posted By: coachallentca
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Anyone know of a place in Fort Worth that sells ethanol free?


No the way I underdstand it. If the county has a speed of of 65 or lower on it's highway the have ethanol ( because of ozone). If they have a speed limit of 70 or higher that have ethanol free gas. If you live outside like tarrant county and dallas county you might find ethanol free gas. I know Grandbury has. Get outside the populated counties and you might have luck..



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Re: ETHANOL IN THE GAS [Re: dallasdawg] #3665007 07/07/09 07:56 PM
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Here is a post from Gene Gilliland, well known Senior Fisheries Biologist from the Okla Dept. of Wildlife. I don't think he will mind the forward.

Don't like Ethanol? Better tell Congress before it gets worse by GeneG, 7/7/2009 14:45 CT
Category - Quit Whining

Boaters Urged to Speak Up on Ethanol Increase Before July 20 Deadline

EPA Comment Period on Proposal for E15 Gasoline Closes in Two Weeks

ALEXANDRIA, Va. July 7, 2009 - The idea of the Environmental Protection Agency (EPA) allowing the introduction of a fuel that has never been independently tested for use with marine engines has boat owners up in arms.

In March, Growth Energy, a pro-ethanol lobbying organization, and 54 ethanol producers petitioned the EPA to allow an increase in the amount of ethanol in gasoline from 10 percent (E10) to 15 percent (E15). After an initial comment period that drew nearly 30,000 comments from concerned boaters, the marine industry, marina operators and many other boating groups, the agency extended the comment deadline to July 20.

BoatU.S. and the NMMA are concerned because boat engines are not designed, calibrated or certified for use with gasoline containing more than 10 percent ethanol. Recreational boat warranty documents and manufacturers owner's manuals currently advise boaters not to use gasoline containing more than 10 percent ethanol, and therefore, the use of E15 in marine engines could void engine warranties and damage motors and fuel systems.

"This is not about growing renewable energy," says BoatU.S. Vice President of Government Affairs Margaret Podlich. "This is really about a group of investors attempting to profit at the expense of 13 million recreational boat owners. We had significant problems with the nationwide roll-out of E10 a few years ago, and without further independent testing of E15 with marine engines we are very likely to see similar issues." Podlich is referring to the widely known problems with ethanol's ability to attract water into gasoline or "phase separate" which has led to boat engine failures and major repair or replacement costs for boaters. It also degrades fiberglass boat gas tank walls.

If the ethanol lobby's petition is approved it would also affect other gasoline powered products. "There are an estimated 500 million gasoline powered engines in the U.S., from boats and autos to chainsaws, lawn mowers and ATVs, so this issue not only severely impacts the recreational boating industry but many others as well," said NMMA Legislative Director Mathew Dunn. "We have a very simple position on this matter. Science -- not politics -- should ultimately determine EPA's decision on whether to allow the sale of any increased ethanol blend that's more than 10 percent. At present, it is clear there is insufficient scientific and technical data to justify granting the increase, and EPA should therefore deny it outright," he added.

Boaters can go to http://www.BoatUS.com/gov or http://capwiz.com/nmma/home/ before the federally mandated comment period ends on July 20 to learn more and send EPA an email asking them to deny the petition for a waiver for the use of E15 fuel until more testing is done on marine engines and fuel systems.


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