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Can a Carolina Rig be tied without swivels? #3128938 02/17/09 08:29 PM
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Is there a "quick" Carolina Rig that can be tied with existing line...hook....weight.

I have rigged up a couple on my own but am dubious of whether the knot will hold under pressure of a big fish.

I would like to use this rig for bass as well as catfish.

Any ideas?


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Re: Can a Carolina Rig be tied without swivels? [Re: chuckwagon] #3128953 02/17/09 08:34 PM
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yes. there are some little clear or red pieces of poly/plastic that you squeeze with plier and it opens up a slit to run your line thru. I use 2 of them for heavy weights, and one for lighter wieght. you can squeeze and adjust the length of the leader instantly with no knots except the one at the hook eye.


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Re: Can a Carolina Rig be tied without swivels? [Re: SkeeterRonnie] #3129014 02/17/09 08:47 PM
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Thanks Skeeter, that looks like a good setup.

Is there a way to make a reliable Carolina Rig using nothing but....hook, existing line and sinker?

Thanks!


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Re: Can a Carolina Rig be tied without swivels? [Re: chuckwagon] #3129034 02/17/09 08:53 PM
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i dont think so. there has to be something to stop the wieght. you could use bobber stops- probably need 2 of them. they are smaller diameter.

Re: Can a Carolina Rig be tied without swivels? [Re: SkeeterRonnie] #3129060 02/17/09 08:58 PM
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I sometimes just peg my bullet weight up with a toothpick or the rubber bullet weight plugs. You got yourself a carolina rig but without beads for rattles.


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Re: Can a Carolina Rig be tied without swivels? [Re: Crazyfish] #3129072 02/17/09 09:00 PM
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Get ready for line twist if you go w/out swivels...even if you use the Carolina keeper.

I'm curious why you don't want to use them....


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If you just gotta, then put a splitshot on the line to stop the weight.

I'd want the swivel myself, but in a pinch I bet the splitshot would work just fine.


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Re: Can a Carolina Rig be tied without swivels? [Re: evolution44] #3129619 02/17/09 10:39 PM
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Originally Posted By: evolution44
Get ready for line twist if you go w/out swivels...even if you use the Carolina keeper.

I'm curious why you don't want to use them....


Mostly for an emergency where all that I had was existing line, hook and sinker.

Hasn't come up with me but I know that somewhere a fisherman must have figured out a workable emergency Carolina rig with just the 3 mentioned items.


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Re: Can a Carolina Rig be tied without swivels? [Re: psycho0819] #3129651 02/17/09 10:45 PM
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Originally Posted By: psycho0819
If you just gotta, then put a splitshot on the line to stop the weight.

I'd want the swivel myself, but in a pinch I bet the splitshot would work just fine.


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Jay, can you think of a way to get rid of the splitshot? Let's say that all you have is your line, hook and sinker.


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Re: Can a Carolina Rig be tied without swivels? [Re: chuckwagon] #3129670 02/17/09 10:48 PM
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What do you need line for?

Re: Can a Carolina Rig be tied without swivels? [Re: chuckwagon] #3129733 02/17/09 10:58 PM
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Originally Posted By: chuckwagon
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If you just gotta, then put a splitshot on the line to stop the weight.

I'd want the swivel myself, but in a pinch I bet the splitshot would work just fine.


Jay


Jay, can you think of a way to get rid of the splitshot? Let's say that all you have is your line, hook and sinker.


If it weren't necessary for the sinker to slide, and I were using lead weights, just bite down and crimp the egg sinker to the line. Tungsten weights might be a little tough on the teeth.

I'm sure I could figure it out. Might be by tying a huge knot in the line to stop the sinker.

Otherwise tying anything onto the line to stop the sinker (i.e. a small twig, the eye cut off another hook, anything) would also work. But might compromise line strength depending on what you use, and the knot.

Luckily, I keep plenty of swivels on hand, and don't bass fish anyway. So it's kind of a non-issue for me. I was just throwing an idea out there.


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Re: Can a Carolina Rig be tied without swivels? [Re: psycho0819] #3130066 02/18/09 12:09 AM
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if you use braid, loop the line through and around the sinker and then tie a knot leaving an extra couple feet to then tie your hook to. Can't imagine why you would want to but it would work.

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Whats wrong with the standard way? Those poly stoppers work great!!!!

Re: Can a Carolina Rig be tied without swivels? [Re: Huckleberry] #3130781 02/18/09 02:43 AM
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Originally Posted By: Huckleberry
What do you need line for?


Hey Huck! I was talking about the line on your reel. You have just your reel and rod with line.....a hook......and a weight.

Can you make a workable Carolina Rig from that?

I was thinking making a loop in the line about 20 inches from the end. Tie overhand knots in the loop to make it stand out and give it some form.

Then tie a simple bass casting sinker to the end of the line.




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Re: Can a Carolina Rig be tied without swivels? [Re: psycho0819] #3130809 02/18/09 02:48 AM
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If you just gotta, then put a splitshot on the line to stop the weight.

I'd want the swivel myself, but in a pinch I bet the splitshot would work just fine.


Jay


Jay, can you think of a way to get rid of the splitshot? Let's say that all you have is your line, hook and sinker.


If it weren't necessary for the sinker to slide, and I were using lead weights, just bite down and crimp the egg sinker to the line. Tungsten weights might be a little tough on the teeth.

I'm sure I could figure it out. Might be by tying a huge knot in the line to stop the sinker.

Otherwise tying anything onto the line to stop the sinker (i.e. a small twig, the eye cut off another hook, anything) would also work. But might compromise line strength depending on what you use, and the knot.

Luckily, I keep plenty of swivels on hand, and don't bass fish anyway. So it's kind of a non-issue for me. I was just throwing an idea out there.


Jay



Ok Jay, I see your point there. So the sinker HAS to slide in order for it to be an effective rig?

What happens if the sinker DOES NOT slide? Could you still feel a "hit" or generate enough force to set the hook?

Or is this totally MOOT because without a "sliding sinker" it isn't a Carolina Rig?




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