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Re: trotlines?
[Re: Chris Hall]
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10/01/08 06:41 PM
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gclark
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IMO, first off, any line that is not tagged is illegal. Secondly any line that has obviously been abandoned by evidence of a 1/2 of moss hanging off of it is trash in the lake, and should be removed.
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Re: trotlines?
[Re: Kawboy]
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10/01/08 08:13 PM
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BillS2006
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Sooner, correct. No tag's. I don't think this would normally bother me. I just get tired of going through all the expense and standing in lines to make sure I do everything legally. I look at it that "we" pay for all the ones who don't. One way or another. The burr under my saddle is I've had three car's wrecked the last two year's by people without insurance, or even a liscence. They don't pay, so I have to. I'll destroy every illegal trot line I find! You don't care for poachers, but you will break the law because you think someone's trotline is illegal? That is what the whole problem is...no respect for the law. You are no better than that person you THINK is a poacher. So sad. Oh well, we can increase the price of a "Super Combo" to cover the increased law enforcement.
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Re: trotlines?
[Re: gclark]
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10/01/08 08:15 PM
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BillS2006
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IMO, first off, any line that is not tagged is illegal. Secondly any line that has obviously been abandoned by evidence of a 1/2 of moss hanging off of it is trash in the lake, and should be removed. I agree. But let the only person authorized to remove them do his job. The game warden.
Transgenders: God made them, the devil changed their minds.
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Re: trotlines?
[Re: BillS2006]
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10/01/08 08:38 PM
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swampcat
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IMO, first off, any line that is not tagged is illegal. Secondly any line that has obviously been abandoned by evidence of a 1/2 of moss hanging off of it is trash in the lake, and should be removed. I agree. But let the only person authorized to remove them do his job. The game warden. it appears your saying game wardens are NOT doing there job then?
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Re: trotlines?
[Re: swampcat]
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10/01/08 08:45 PM
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BillS2006
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IMO, first off, any line that is not tagged is illegal. Secondly any line that has obviously been abandoned by evidence of a 1/2 of moss hanging off of it is trash in the lake, and should be removed. I agree. But let the only person authorized to remove them do his job. The game warden. it appears your saying game wardens are NOT doing there job then? No, I'm saying game wardens are the only folks that can legally remove a trot line. Duh!
Transgenders: God made them, the devil changed their minds.
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Re: trotlines?
[Re: Kawboy]
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10/01/08 08:46 PM
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Larry in Tawakoni
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Im not sure of what you are saying...
"A coke bottle tied to a brick, bottle set just out of visability beneath the surface."
... the markers dont have to be visible.. .they just have to be within 3' of the first hook on each end of the trotline. Thats the way I read the manual, and I would prefer it if my jugs didnt show.. as I dont want anyone to help me run it. On the same hand... .I keep my line low enough in the water where nobody will snag it with their lower unit, and nobody going to be running fast anyway.
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Re: trotlines?
[Re: BillS2006]
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10/01/08 08:46 PM
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The game wardens need to be advised of the trotlines location so they can remove them.
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Re: trotlines?
[Re: BillS2006]
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10/01/08 09:18 PM
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alwaysfishing
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I'am just sick of putting out legal lines and having some other fool come by and remove the fish for me in less than a half day.
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Re: trotlines?
[Re: BillS2006]
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10/02/08 03:16 AM
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DEERSTRANGLER�
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There we go trying to overprice fishing just like hunting...Is the $64.00 for a Supercombo not enough where now people think there should be an expensive tag for trotlines? It does stink when people put out a trotline and never use or check it. I've called the Warden in times past when I've see that. I've also had 4 trotlines stolen this year. I know one time it was a jetskier because he got the line sucked up in his impeller and was being towed away as I was approaching my set. How small are the lakes getting these days where it's too big a hassle to move 50-75 feet to avoid a trotline. I treat others trotlines just like they where there in their boat so I stay away as best as possible. Yes, boat ramps are the one place where you should'nt trotline but other than that take it easy. How would you propose stopping the "weekender" that buys a cheap trotline from Wally World, sets it out, then goes back to the city and leaves it for you to hang up in? It is illegal for you to remove it. If you remove it it is nothing more than common thieft. There is nothing common about stealing. Is it okay to steal if it's something small and of no real value? NO, It's not okay to remove a line just because it's "illegal". That's not my job. My job is to report illegal activity to the GW and let him decide if it's in his best interest to move on my suggestions. If some Idiot goes and buys a trotline at wal-mart and puts it out and never checks it he deserves to have it taken up by the proper authority. Just because I fish four or five days a week does not give me more right or seniority on a lake to the guy that can go out on weekends and fish. If said weekender comes out to the lake and wants to run a trotline good for him. I have no problem with trotlines like I've said in the past. I avoid lines and since I do fish four to five days a week I know usually how long most of the lines in the areas that I frequent have been out there but I'll be danged if I'm going to become the trotline police and run a risk of me getting my fishing license revoked for a year or more for potentially stealing somebody eles's line because I've taken it on myself to police any said trotline offenses. I do however have the numbers in my cell phone of the local game wardens and lake patrol who govern my local waterway so I can pass on information that I deem necessary to give to them be it a trotline that's been out 40 something days or another infraction that they might want to be aware of. I just hate to think that any of us want something to become illegal just because somebody does'nt like it. We are all in this together as fishermen. What happens if the bass guys turn on the crappie or catfishermen? Thats just the kind of BS the anti fishing and hunting groups wish for. Infighting is the first step to all of us losing our priviledge to fish or hunt or whatever it is we like to do in the outdoors. Get to know your local GW, or at least keep his number in your cell phone so if you see something that might be amiss let them know. Don't take it out on the 99 something percent of the law abiding fishermen out there just trying to have a good time and get some fish for the table. Whats next? Chumming? Live Bait? Treble hooks? Hope I did'nt run on too long but we all got to stick together or before long that lake you used to fish on will be nothing but skiers and jetskis and fishing will be nothing but a distant memory.
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Re: trotlines?
[Re: DEERSTRANGLER�]
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10/02/08 07:30 AM
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BillS2006
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There we go trying to overprice fishing just like hunting...Is the $64.00 for a Supercombo not enough where now people think there should be an expensive tag for trotlines? It does stink when people put out a trotline and never use or check it. I've called the Warden in times past when I've see that. I've also had 4 trotlines stolen this year. I know one time it was a jetskier because he got the line sucked up in his impeller and was being towed away as I was approaching my set. How small are the lakes getting these days where it's too big a hassle to move 50-75 feet to avoid a trotline. I treat others trotlines just like they where there in their boat so I stay away as best as possible. Yes, boat ramps are the one place where you should'nt trotline but other than that take it easy. How would you propose stopping the "weekender" that buys a cheap trotline from Wally World, sets it out, then goes back to the city and leaves it for you to hang up in? It is illegal for you to remove it. If you remove it it is nothing more than common thieft. There is nothing common about stealing. Is it okay to steal if it's something small and of no real value? NO, It's not okay to remove a line just because it's "illegal". That's not my job. My job is to report illegal activity to the GW and let him decide if it's in his best interest to move on my suggestions. If some Idiot goes and buys a trotline at wal-mart and puts it out and never checks it he deserves to have it taken up by the proper authority. Just because I fish four or five days a week does not give me more right or seniority on a lake to the guy that can go out on weekends and fish. If said weekender comes out to the lake and wants to run a trotline good for him. I have no problem with trotlines like I've said in the past. I avoid lines and since I do fish four to five days a week I know usually how long most of the lines in the areas that I frequent have been out there but I'll be danged if I'm going to become the trotline police and run a risk of me getting my fishing license revoked for a year or more for potentially stealing somebody eles's line because I've taken it on myself to police any said trotline offenses. I do however have the numbers in my cell phone of the local game wardens and lake patrol who govern my local waterway so I can pass on information that I deem necessary to give to them be it a trotline that's been out 40 something days or another infraction that they might want to be aware of. I just hate to think that any of us want something to become illegal just because somebody does'nt like it. We are all in this together as fishermen. What happens if the bass guys turn on the crappie or catfishermen? Thats just the kind of BS the anti fishing and hunting groups wish for. Infighting is the first step to all of us losing our priviledge to fish or hunt or whatever it is we like to do in the outdoors. Get to know your local GW, or at least keep his number in your cell phone so if you see something that might be amiss let them know. Don't take it out on the 99 something percent of the law abiding fishermen out there just trying to have a good time and get some fish for the table. Whats next? Chumming? Live Bait? Treble hooks? Hope I did'nt run on too long but we all got to stick together or before long that lake you used to fish on will be nothing but skiers and jetskis and fishing will be nothing but a distant memory. That is what I have been saying, just a lot more wordy.
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Re: trotlines?
[Re: BillS2006]
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10/02/08 10:10 AM
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gclark
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IMO, first off, any line that is not tagged is illegal. Secondly any line that has obviously been abandoned by evidence of a 1/2 of moss hanging off of it is trash in the lake, and should be removed. I agree. But let the only person authorized to remove them do his job. The game warden. I only said it should be removed. I never said I would, and I didn't say I wouldn't. Mysterious, ain't I?
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Re: trotlines?
[Re: alwaysfishing]
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10/02/08 10:14 AM
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gclark
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I'am just sick of putting out legal lines and having some other fool come by and remove the fish for me in less than a half day. Now that ain't right. If you have a legal line in the water, you have a right to have it there and you also have the right to harvest legal fish from it without someone poaching off of it. They are breaking the law. I would sit out somewhere with a good telephoto lens, and document their dastardly deeds. Then I would email the pics to TPWD.
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Re: trotlines?
[Re: DEERSTRANGLER�]
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10/02/08 10:25 AM
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gclark
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There we go trying to overprice fishing just like hunting...Is the $64.00 for a Supercombo not enough where now people think there should be an expensive tag for trotlines? It does stink when people put out a trotline and never use or check it. I've called the Warden in times past when I've see that. I've also had 4 trotlines stolen this year. I know one time it was a jetskier because he got the line sucked up in his impeller and was being towed away as I was approaching my set. How small are the lakes getting these days where it's too big a hassle to move 50-75 feet to avoid a trotline. I treat others trotlines just like they where there in their boat so I stay away as best as possible. Yes, boat ramps are the one place where you should'nt trotline but other than that take it easy. How would you propose stopping the "weekender" that buys a cheap trotline from Wally World, sets it out, then goes back to the city and leaves it for you to hang up in? It is illegal for you to remove it. If you remove it it is nothing more than common thieft. There is nothing common about stealing. Is it okay to steal if it's something small and of no real value? NO, It's not okay to remove a line just because it's "illegal". That's not my job. My job is to report illegal activity to the GW and let him decide if it's in his best interest to move on my suggestions. If some Idiot goes and buys a trotline at wal-mart and puts it out and never checks it he deserves to have it taken up by the proper authority. Just because I fish four or five days a week does not give me more right or seniority on a lake to the guy that can go out on weekends and fish. If said weekender comes out to the lake and wants to run a trotline good for him. I have no problem with trotlines like I've said in the past. I avoid lines and since I do fish four to five days a week I know usually how long most of the lines in the areas that I frequent have been out there but I'll be danged if I'm going to become the trotline police and run a risk of me getting my fishing license revoked for a year or more for potentially stealing somebody eles's line because I've taken it on myself to police any said trotline offenses. I do however have the numbers in my cell phone of the local game wardens and lake patrol who govern my local waterway so I can pass on information that I deem necessary to give to them be it a trotline that's been out 40 something days or another infraction that they might want to be aware of. I just hate to think that any of us want something to become illegal just because somebody does'nt like it. We are all in this together as fishermen. What happens if the bass guys turn on the crappie or catfishermen? Thats just the kind of BS the anti fishing and hunting groups wish for. Infighting is the first step to all of us losing our priviledge to fish or hunt or whatever it is we like to do in the outdoors. Get to know your local GW, or at least keep his number in your cell phone so if you see something that might be amiss let them know. Don't take it out on the 99 something percent of the law abiding fishermen out there just trying to have a good time and get some fish for the table. Whats next? Chumming? Live Bait? Treble hooks? Hope I did'nt run on too long but we all got to stick together or before long that lake you used to fish on will be nothing but skiers and jetskis and fishing will be nothing but a distant memory. I don't think fishing in Texas will ever be a distant memory. It generates too much revenue for the state. No way they will give that up. http://sports.espn.go.com/outdoors/hunting/news/story?id=3161859
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Re: trotlines?
[Re: gclark]
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10/08/08 12:03 AM
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PEZZ
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I have gotten hung up on a trotline while tubing and the only way out of a situation like that is to cut the line, if you can reach it. When it is caught on your foot, all you can do is pull it up far enough with your leg as you're reaching down under the water as far as you can with a pair of pliers to get free all while trying to keep from flipping over. Just something to think about. It's impossible to SHARE the water when you are not around to check your lines. Also in Oklahoma a trotline or jugline must be checked every 24 hours, not every few days...I dunno about Texas.
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Re: trotlines?
[Re: PEZZ]
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10/08/08 12:24 AM
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DEERSTRANGLER�
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Did you actually get the hook in you? Ouch! I'm putting a trotline out tomorrow night and coming back around daylight Thursday morning to pull it up. Thats about the only way I run trotlines now since I've had so many stolen this year. Hopefully all 25 hooks will have about a 3lb blue on them so I can put the line up until next year.
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