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 Question About Denison Dam and Striper Migration
#1769986
11/29/07 01:38 PM
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Hey Guys,
I always heard that fishing was good when they release at the dam. My question is that is it good all year long, or only during the late fall to early spring months? Is it because the stripers migrate upstream during the winter months, then back down later in the spring? Also, how much more successful can you be if you wade compared to fishing on the bank?
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Re: Question About Denison Dam and Striper Migration
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11/29/07 03:07 PM
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rrhyne56
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I wish I knew more about striper migration, or lack thereof, in the Red River. The way the Red looks at some times of year I wonder how far they could get to the Gulf of Mexico? They would have had this to contend with for about a seven hundred years. The generation seems to cause them to come up closer to the bank as they hold in the seams between fast and slower water.
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Re: Question About Denison Dam and Striper Migration
[Re: rrhyne56]
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11/29/07 03:33 PM
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keebranch
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Boilermaker,
Right now it's good both before and after the release. As Robin suggests: work the seams during the raging river period, then afer the water subsides wade to the middle to fish riffles near rock islands.
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Re: Question About Denison Dam and Striper Migration
[Re: keebranch]
#1771762
11/29/07 11:21 PM
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Trout Bum
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Hey, ask Scott Bridgess, he has been studying these fish, along with others for some time. I personally believe they are following the food, that is coming out of the lake. The fish are trending thinner over the last few weeks, which leads me to believe that the food sourse is diminishing. As they get hungrier, this could lead to some better fishing, but a poor quality of fish. Too soon to tell.
I do know one thing, I will be there Friday am to rip some lips!!!!!
Later, trout / striper bum
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Re: Question About Denison Dam and Striper Migration
[Re: Trout Bum]
#1772222
11/30/07 12:32 AM
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I might be out there tomorrow morning as well (depending on the outcome of the game). All this talk is making me want to sling some flies out there. Since I don't have an OK license, I'll leave the waders at home.
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Re: Question About Denison Dam and Striper Migration
[Re: Boilermaker]
#1772476
11/30/07 01:25 AM
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Trout Bum
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Boilermaker, spend the money, get the license for 23.00, and get into the action. It will make a difference, and you will get a chance to talk to me about Colorado. I have found that wading into the middle of the river will probably add 30-40 fish more than hittin it from the bank. I have evidence to that fact.
Hope yoy come up, later, trout / striperbum
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Re: Question About Denison Dam and Striper Migration
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#1773285
11/30/07 04:55 AM
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It's good...until it gets totally fished out again lol.
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Re: Question About Denison Dam and Striper Migration
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11/30/07 11:25 AM
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The stripers are following the food. They can negotiate the turbulent water with no problem, but 2"-3" long baitfish can't. The baitfish are disoriented, and are easy prey. The predators know this from experience.
You can duplicate the same conditions at a few places on the Elm Fork of the Trinity after a rain. Water running over a dam will create a "headwater" that fish can't pass. The bait are there, and the predators are there also.
With a productive source of stripers like Texoma just upstream, there will always be a renewable supply of stripers in the Red below the dam. I would bet that almost every time water is released, mature stripers are pulled through the dam into the river below.
I'm going to try and catch some in the morning!
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Re: Question About Denison Dam and Striper Migration
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11/30/07 12:37 PM
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The numbers of fish released during power generation are not what they used to be. When the release gates are open, fish are moved through in great numbers.
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Re: Question About Denison Dam and Striper Migration
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12/05/07 12:08 AM
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Starless
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The stripers are following the food. They can negotiate the turbulent water with no problem, but 2"-3" long baitfish can't. The baitfish are disoriented, and are easy prey. The predators know this from experience.
You can duplicate the same conditions at a few places on the Elm Fork of the Trinity after a rain. Water running over a dam will create a "headwater" that fish can't pass. The bait are there, and the predators are there also.
With a productive source of stripers like Texoma just upstream, there will always be a renewable supply of stripers in the Red below the dam. I would bet that almost every time water is released, mature stripers are pulled through the dam into the river below.
I'm going to try and catch some in the morning!
Artie Yeah, from what I hear, there is no longer a "productive" source there. They do not move through very much when they generate, because the new "bits" mash up all the fish much more effectively. Only when water is going over the spillway, or the actual release gates are open, do they repopulate the stripers, etc, very well.
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Re: Question About Denison Dam and Striper Migration
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03/11/09 03:06 PM
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Gfatherx
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When they generate does the stripers come over from the lake side or do they swim up from the Red River?
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Re: Question About Denison Dam and Striper Migration
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03/11/09 03:18 PM
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rrhyne56
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Going through those turbines would be pretty rough. They live and thrive in the river
"have fun with this stuff"
in memory of Big Dale
RRhyne56, Flyfishing warden
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