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Re: MLF Toyota Series
[Re: J.H.S.]
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04/17/25 01:36 AM
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tmd11111
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This is a clip of the other boat accident today on lake Norman during the NPFL tournament. Thankfully nobody was killed.
Last edited by tmd11111; 04/17/25 01:36 AM.
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Re: MLF Toyota Series
[Re: J.H.S.]
#15378633
04/17/25 01:41 AM
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LeonSulak
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Prayers for all involved and their families.
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Re: MLF Toyota Series
[Re: J.H.S.]
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04/17/25 02:12 AM
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grout-scout
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What an unfortunate accident, it was bad being 1 person; but 3 is just a travesty.
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Re: MLF Toyota Series
[Re: tmd11111]
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04/17/25 02:14 AM
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J.H.S.
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This is a clip of the other boat accident today on lake Norman during the NPFL tournament. Thankfully nobody was killed. Yup. Another “professional” idiot who is to stupid to operate a boat properly. Grow the sport they say.
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Re: MLF Toyota Series
[Re: LeonSulak]
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04/17/25 02:28 AM
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kennerdude
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Prayers for all involved and their families.
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Re: MLF Toyota Series
[Re: Harleydude]
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04/17/25 03:01 AM
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SC-001
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Just saw this where grout found his.
SMITH LAKE UPDATE: From ALEA… death toll is three. “John K. Clark, 44, of Cullman and Jeffrey C. Little, 62, of Brandon, Miss., who were both onboard the Center Console vessel involved in this morning’s crash, were thrown overboard during the incident. Both individuals drowned and have been pronounced deceased. However, their bodies were recovered near the Miller Flats area of Smith Lake in Cullman County.” And, the update from earlier this afternoon “A two-vessel crash that occurred at approximately 7:03 a.m. Wednesday, April 16, and has claimed the life of an Altoona man. Joey M. Broom, 58, was fatally injured when the Center Console vessel he was onboard was struck by a Nitro Bass Boat. Broom was pronounced deceased at the scene. The crash occurred near the Miller Flats area of Smith Lake in Cullman County.” Troopers with ALEA’s Marine Patrol Division are still actively investigating this incident and as additional information becomes available, we will be sure and pass it along.” Photos from Bill Castle/ABC 33/40 As Lindy Roberts used to say "Life jackets and kill switches"
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Re: MLF Toyota Series
[Re: J.H.S.]
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04/17/25 03:05 AM
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SC-001
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Yep. This one is going to change the way some tournament trails do things. Absolutely. Make no mistake. We saw some major changes after the Big O drowning. This will 100% changes the scope for "Pro" tournament bass fishing, at least at these minor league levels with large fields. Maybe we will see a field cap or a reduction. We will definitely see more cancellations, which we are seeing more than ever before right now. I go back to "grow the sport", this is what you get. More people who only care about winning, more accidents, more restrictions. They are coming. It could be worse. Not many sporting activities are held on public resources amid unaware general public. Wouldn’t you be surprised to be driving down your back country road, cruising along, and get t-boned by a sports car? I know it isn’t quite the same, but the premise is the same. The general public is put at risk by having large group of anglers flying around the lake on a mission. I bet the striper guide felt perfectly safe with his clients, till he wasn’t. It’s sad. It also a pastime that I involve myself with several times a week. I’d hate to have my favorite pastime jeopardized by things like this. FIFY
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Re: MLF Toyota Series
[Re: J.H.S.]
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04/17/25 03:26 AM
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Jim Ford
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Sadly, most anglers are blissfully ignorant of the laws that they violate. In periods of restricted visibility the law requires that you operate at a safe speed, whereby you can stop within the assured clear distance ahead (absolutely common sense). You are required to display your navigation lights (again, absolutely common sense), and to sound a 4 to 6 second blast on your horn or whistle at no more than two minute intervals. How often do we see / hear that happen? I hate to say it, but some (certainly not all) guides and pro anglers set a horrible example. It's not the boat's fault; it's the operator's fault.
I saw an interview with another angler from the tournament earlier today who stated that he saw the center console boat fishing prior to the wreck, and he commented that the boat was in a bad spot. That mindset amazed me; if Flint had been operating at a safe speed he would never have struck the CC boat. It wasn't in a narrow channel. The analogy offered earlier of a driver stopped in the middle of an interstate in a fog was absurd. There are no lanes on the lake; boats are legally operating over the entire surface. There's no place to pull over to get "out of the traffic" on the lake. I can't conceive of a scenario where Flint isn't entirely responsible for this wreck if fog really was a factor.
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Re: MLF Toyota Series
[Re: InTheClear]
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04/17/25 11:35 AM
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T Bird
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As much as people will throw shade at the tournament angler and his speed, the guide sitting still in the middle of the interstate on a foggy morning is just as responsible for not assuming something like that could happen. When in doubt, head to the shoreline, even doing that presents a risk. Ain't no way the guide/center console boat is responsible. That's  !!!!
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Re: MLF Toyota Series
[Re: T Bird]
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04/17/25 12:12 PM
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Quillback
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As much as people will throw shade at the tournament angler and his speed, the guide sitting still in the middle of the interstate on a foggy morning is just as responsible for not assuming something like that could happen. When in doubt, head to the shoreline, even doing that presents a risk. Ain't no way the guide/center console boat is responsible. That's  !!!! Gotta watch out for yaks too. Hard enough to see as it is, you'd never see one in dense fog until it was too late if you're buzzing along on plane. And it would not be the yakkers fault if they got killed by a someone flying through dense fog.
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Re: MLF Toyota Series
[Re: T Bird]
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04/17/25 12:28 PM
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TxBazzn
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As much as people will throw shade at the tournament angler and his speed, the guide sitting still in the middle of the interstate on a foggy morning is just as responsible for not assuming something like that could happen. When in doubt, head to the shoreline, even doing that presents a risk. Ain't no way the guide/center console boat is responsible. That's  !!!! This is the same as blaming a rape victim for dressing provocatively.
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Re: MLF Toyota Series
[Re: Quillback]
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04/17/25 01:08 PM
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grout-scout
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As much as people will throw shade at the tournament angler and his speed, the guide sitting still in the middle of the interstate on a foggy morning is just as responsible for not assuming something like that could happen. When in doubt, head to the shoreline, even doing that presents a risk. Ain't no way the guide/center console boat is responsible. That's  !!!! Gotta watch out for yaks too. Hard enough to see as it is, you'd never see one in dense fog until it was too late if you're buzzing along on plane. And it would not be the yakkers fault if they got killed by a someone flying through dense fog. Kayaks in the early morning scare the hell out of me, those guy cutting across a channel or opposite side of a cove and they are hard to see. I don’t know if they have light requirements, but if they do, nobody uses them down where I fish.
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Re: MLF Toyota Series
[Re: Quillback]
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04/17/25 01:20 PM
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Jezreel
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Ain't no way the guide/center console boat is responsible. That's  !!!![/quote] Gotta watch out for yaks too. Hard enough to see as it is, you'd never see one in dense fog until it was too late if you're buzzing along on plane. And it would not be the yakkers fault if they got killed by a someone flying through dense fog.[/quote] Exactly. . . I wasn’t gonna weigh in, but. . . I crappie fish out of a kayak, so I’m always out in the middle of the lake or next to a bridge piling. I’ve been sitting by bridge pilings on a clear day scared to death, because bass boats fly under those bridges at 60+mph trying to get to weigh-in. Drives me insane to see these guys pass by. I have a red flag flying, but when a guy is doing 60mph, they’ll never see it. With that said, I NEVER go out in my kayak on a foggy day. As some folks have already said, common sense needs to be the priority. But, as we all know, not everyone has common sense. I ALWAYS have my PFD on when I’m in the kayak for just such an occasion.
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Re: MLF Toyota Series
[Re: J.H.S.]
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04/17/25 01:49 PM
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over the hill @PK
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Many years ago I was on Rayburn started at the damn going north in fog you could see bout 50 yards so was running slow being careful . We went and went for bout 1&1/2 hrs looking for the bridge . I had no compass and then looked up to see we had made a long circle 3 boats of us and there was our starting point { the dam} looking right back at us . We all felt like fools .
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Re: MLF Toyota Series
[Re: J.H.S.]
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04/17/25 02:01 PM
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bloo_rainger
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If you’re fishing in the boat lane on Fork, on a tournament day, in blinding fog there’s about a 100% chance of you being hit by another boat.
Not placing blame just stating an opinion.
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