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Re: Scott Martin out [Re: Marion Morrison] #15372013 04/07/25 11:27 PM
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Originally Posted by Marion Morrison
Does information really matter if you are using FFS?

Not according to people who don’t know what they are talking about….you just turn that black box on and the fish jump in the boat….

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Re: Scott Martin out [Re: HDVS] #15372195 04/08/25 03:24 AM
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Originally Posted by HDVS
It astonishes me how many people can defend someone who admits (in his video) to breaking the "INFO" rule and then plays the "VICTIM." Trust me I have fished around Scott for years in the FLW days. Been around him on and off the water. Not the guy that u see in his videos! People forget he DID NOT get an invite to the BPT when the split happened bc all those guys know who he is. BASS took him bc they needed names and thought he might stay in line! Well a tiger can't change his stripes and now BASS has to pay for it with how they handled Okeechobee and with Scott being Scott! Video's and text messages and refusal to take a poly? How much proof does it take for some of ya'll to just say "yeap he broke the rules".
Karma has been slow to catch with him but it finally has!

Oh really? I know a little bit about FLW, chances are we know each other. Send me your info via pm or leave this thread.


Don’t agree with those terms? Why should Martin? It is clear some anglers are jealous of Martin and bass chose poorly. Rumors is the big guy is super pissed, no not that woke anderson guy. The one who spends big $$ supporting bass.


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Re: Scott Martin out [Re: HDVS] #15372198 04/08/25 03:27 AM
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Originally Posted by HDVS
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It astonishes me how many people can defend someone who admits (in his video) to breaking the "INFO" rule and then plays the "VICTIM." Trust me I have fished around Scott for years in the FLW days. Been around him on and off the water. Not the guy that u see in his videos! People forget he DID NOT get an invite to the BPT when the split happened bc all those guys know who he is. BASS took him bc they needed names and thought he might stay in line! Well a tiger can't change his stripes and now BASS has to pay for it with how they handled Okeechobee and with Scott being Scott! Video's and text messages and refusal to take a poly? How much proof does it take for some of ya'll to just say "yeap he broke the rules".
Karma has been slow to catch with him but it finally has!


He actually qualified for the Elites through the Opens just like the 100's of other anglers in the past, they didn't just take him. Unbelievable misrepresentation of the facts here!


Unbelievable misrepresentation?? I didn't say he did or did not qualify in the opens!! I just said BASS took him! Other circuits wouldn't!
When u have been around him and fished against him and seen the bs that surrounds him u can try to take a shot at me bud!!

Why don’t you share your experience? You seem quite familiar with FLW and fishing against Martin.


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Re: Scott Martin out [Re: Revoman] #15372262 04/08/25 11:26 AM
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First off… I like me some Scott Martin. Sure sounds like he was pushing the boundary of the rule by saying we can’t talk about tournament waters but then asking a bunch of questions about “similar” fisheries… they were talking about the tournament lake without actually saying it, come on yall. Trying to push legalities to the max to gain an advantage. Question is, how many more have done the same thing and not been busted?

Refusing the BASS poly allows Scott to maintain plausible deniability. I’d love to see the video of his independent polygraph that he “passed”.


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Re: Scott Martin out [Re: Mulejockey1] #15372294 04/08/25 12:35 PM
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Originally Posted by Mulejockey1
Originally Posted by HDVS
It astonishes me how many people can defend someone who admits (in his video) to breaking the "INFO" rule and then plays the "VICTIM." Trust me I have fished around Scott for years in the FLW days. Been around him on and off the water. Not the guy that u see in his videos! People forget he DID NOT get an invite to the BPT when the split happened bc all those guys know who he is. BASS took him bc they needed names and thought he might stay in line! Well a tiger can't change his stripes and now BASS has to pay for it with how they handled Okeechobee and with Scott being Scott! Video's and text messages and refusal to take a poly? How much proof does it take for some of ya'll to just say "yeap he broke the rules".
Karma has been slow to catch with him but it finally has!

Oh really? I know a little bit about FLW, chances are we know each other. Send me your info via pm or leave this thread.


Don’t agree with those terms? Why should Martin? It is clear some anglers are jealous of Martin and bass chose poorly. Rumors is the big guy is super pissed, no not that woke anderson guy. The one who spends big $$ supporting bass.




So you're saying Johnny Morris is upset because Scott Martin cheated? Or because BASS didn't allow someone who admitted to cheating fish an event? If the ladder, I guess I'd change my opinion of him, and BPS. You seem to be well connected at the top of the fishing industry, maybe you can get us answers to the questions below regarding Martin's actions. And exactly how other jealous anglers forced him to cheat once, if not twice inside a month?

1. If he wasn't looking to gain a competitive advantage why would he call a local he admits he didn't know that well?

2. If he's innocent, why not go through BASS' process? You can't just say you don't trust their polygraph, it's given to like 10-15 anglers EVERY tournament, and other than Matt Herren, EVERYONE else has been fine.

Re: Scott Martin out [Re: Insurance man] #15372389 04/08/25 01:44 PM
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Originally Posted by Insurance man
Dang people get over it. Scott is a great guy and BASS has done great things for bass fishing. Splits happen all the time and it doesn't mean that one is wrong or one is right. No need for name calling or getting ugly because this effects your lives zero percent!

They can't let it go. lol

Re: Scott Martin out [Re: buda13] #15372391 04/08/25 01:45 PM
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Originally Posted by buda13
First off… I like me some Scott Martin. Sure sounds like he was pushing the boundary of the rule by saying we can’t talk about tournament waters but then asking a bunch of questions about “similar” fisheries… they were talking about the tournament lake without actually saying it, come on yall. Trying to push legalities to the max to gain an advantage. Question is, how many more have done the same thing and not been busted?

Refusing the BASS poly allows Scott to maintain plausible deniability. I’d love to see the video of his independent polygraph that he “passed”.




I can imagine it goes like this:

Scott’s polygraph guy….”Mr. Martin, did you specifically talk about the tournament body of water”? “Did you tell the other person that you could NOT talk about the tournament body of water”?


Bass polygraph guy…”Mr: Martin did you ask about similar surrounding waters in hopes to gain knowledge about the tournament body of water”? No way possible he can pass a question posed in certain ways.

Re: Scott Martin out [Re: grout-scout] #15372414 04/08/25 02:09 PM
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Originally Posted by grout-scout
Originally Posted by buda13
First off… I like me some Scott Martin. Sure sounds like he was pushing the boundary of the rule by saying we can’t talk about tournament waters but then asking a bunch of questions about “similar” fisheries… they were talking about the tournament lake without actually saying it, come on yall. Trying to push legalities to the max to gain an advantage. Question is, how many more have done the same thing and not been busted?

Refusing the BASS poly allows Scott to maintain plausible deniability. I’d love to see the video of his independent polygraph that he “passed”.




I can imagine it goes like this:

Scott’s polygraph guy….”Mr. Martin, did you specifically talk about the tournament body of water”? “Did you tell the other person that you could NOT talk about the tournament body of water”?


Bass polygraph guy…”Mr: Martin did you ask about similar surrounding waters in hopes to gain knowledge about the tournament body of water”? No way possible he can pass a question posed in certain ways.


Exactly

Re: Scott Martin out [Re: Revoman] #15372432 04/08/25 02:22 PM
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The young guys should thank him, nobody has said a word about 20 year olds with ffs lately...... well other than Castledine on his last video.

Re: Scott Martin out [Re: wanta10lbbass] #15372438 04/08/25 02:30 PM
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Originally Posted by wanta10lbbass
... So you're saying Johnny Morris is upset because Scott Martin cheated? ...


Why would Johnny Morris be upset???... As far as I can tell he doesn't sponsor Scott Martin... No BPS logos on truck, boat or tournament shirt... Now him and Roland have deals... Johnny has the financial ability to buy BASS but he's never went all in to buy it the times they've been on the market... Johnny knows business... And he probably realizes this was a business decision for both parties involved... Dan confused 3


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Re: Scott Martin out [Re: WAWI] #15372455 04/08/25 02:49 PM
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Originally Posted by WAWI
The young guys should thank him, nobody has said a word about 20 year olds with ffs lately...... well other than Castledine on his last video.

I dunno old Randy B went on a 20 minute diatribe defending the honor of Scott Martin, said it was all BASS fault, said the whole problem centers around them allowing FFS..😆. It’s like liberals blaming anything that happen on climate change

Re: Scott Martin out [Re: Mulejockey1] #15372456 04/08/25 02:50 PM
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Originally Posted by Mulejockey1
Originally Posted by HDVS
It astonishes me how many people can defend someone who admits (in his video) to breaking the "INFO" rule and then plays the "VICTIM." Trust me I have fished around Scott for years in the FLW days. Been around him on and off the water. Not the guy that u see in his videos! People forget he DID NOT get an invite to the BPT when the split happened bc all those guys know who he is. BASS took him bc they needed names and thought he might stay in line! Well a tiger can't change his stripes and now BASS has to pay for it with how they handled Okeechobee and with Scott being Scott! Video's and text messages and refusal to take a poly? How much proof does it take for some of ya'll to just say "yeap he broke the rules".
Karma has been slow to catch with him but it finally has!

Oh really? I know a little bit about FLW, chances are we know each other. Send me your info via pm or leave this thread.


Don’t agree with those terms? Why should Martin? It is clear some anglers are jealous of Martin and bass chose poorly. Rumors is the big guy is super pissed, no not that woke anderson guy. The one who spends big $$ supporting bass.

Why don’t you post your real name or leave.


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Originally Posted by DanXB-21
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... So you're saying Johnny Morris is upset because Scott Martin cheated? ...


Why would Johnny Morris be upset???... As far as I can tell he doesn't sponsor Scott Martin... No BPS logos on truck, boat or tournament shirt... Now him and Roland have deals... Johnny has the financial ability to buy BASS but he's never went all in to buy it the times they've been on the market... Johnny knows business... And he probably realizes this was a business decision for both parties involved... Dan confused 3

Why would he buy BASS? They need him more than he needs them, he could literally create a better series over night. His amateur million dollar series he ran a few years back, those tournaments were better ran than any elite series event.

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Originally Posted by DanXB-21
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... So you're saying Johnny Morris is upset because Scott Martin cheated? ...


Why would Johnny Morris be upset???... As far as I can tell he doesn't sponsor Scott Martin... No BPS logos on truck, boat or tournament shirt... Now him and Roland have deals... Johnny has the financial ability to buy BASS but he's never went all in to buy it the times they've been on the market... Johnny knows business... And he probably realizes this was a business decision for both parties involved... Dan confused 3


Exactly, he wouldn't be.

Re: Scott Martin out [Re: Revoman] #15372485 04/08/25 03:26 PM
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Martin is a chip off the old block, his father was known to get a lot of info back in the day. Likely why he never won the classic as back then they did not let the lakes out too far in advance


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