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Re: Space X scrubs launch to retrieve Astronauts
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03/18/25 03:30 PM
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Re: Space X scrubs launch to retrieve Astronauts
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03/18/25 03:30 PM
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Just want to see them get home safely.
It's a shame they were left out there over politics.
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Re: Space X scrubs launch to retrieve Astronauts
[Re: Spiderman]
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03/18/25 03:32 PM
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spazm09
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Brando, If you can’t connect the dots then I don’t think I can help you. No, I’m not saying nasa was going to leave them up there. Someone else might be better for explaining this to you.
Last edited by spazm09; 03/18/25 03:34 PM.
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Re: Space X scrubs launch to retrieve Astronauts
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03/18/25 03:34 PM
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What an accomplishment for American capitalism and private sector business what an embarrassment to the previous administration and NASA You’re going to have to explain that one to me. Boeing is a private sector company and this was their eff up. Boeing may be a private sector company. But NASA didn't or wouldn't or couldn't come up with a rescue plan. Biden did nothing to get the austronauts home. NASA doesn’t build rockets anymore. There was zero chance nasa was ever going to rescue these astronauts. The reality of the situation is that Boeing has gotten too big and bloated with lobbyists and bureaucracy that they are now producing inferior products and putting people’s lives a risk. /\this/\.....BUT with ONE caveat..... WHO was in charge and responsible for contacting Boeing with the responsibility of constructing the spacecraft?? For example, I'm dealing with a situation at present involving a certain large power company that contracted another very large company to "trim" limbs on a small transmission line (something that had been done on several prior occasions over the previous 33 years with no issues... establishing a "precedent"). During this "trimming" process they heavily damaged my highway frontage ON my property and outside of the utility easement. In several locations they were guilty of felony criminal trespass as they destroyed a split rail fence and a 5 strand barbwire fence to gain access causing a LOT of damage. Again and most importantly, the actual operators were ALL well OUTside of their LEGAL utility easement right of way. My question is this, WHO is ultimately responsible and the aim of my primary recourse?? (if litigation had been necessary) BTW, to finish the story, the subcontractor has admitted their reckless disregard for private property, both verbally in person and in writing. They are going to "make us whole"... do what's right. It took two regional managers 30 seconds to determine their legal culpability as it was obvious to anyone with sound eyesight and knew the applicable state statutes. Again, who is ultimately responsible?
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Re: Space X scrubs launch to retrieve Astronauts
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03/18/25 03:40 PM
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If Nasa can't go get people they send up they don't need to send anyone else up.
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Re: Space X scrubs launch to retrieve Astronauts
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03/18/25 03:42 PM
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spazm09
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If Nasa can't go get people they send up they don't need to send anyone else up. The point is that nasa didn’t hire the best company for the job. Boeing should have never had that contract to begin with. I think they learned that lesson the hard way. Luckily Elon is around to save their arses.
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Re: Space X scrubs launch to retrieve Astronauts
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03/18/25 03:45 PM
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If Nasa can't go get people they send up they don't need to send anyone else up. The point is that nasa didn’t hire the best company for the job. Boeing should have never had that contract to begin with. I think they learned that lesson the hard way. Luckily Elon is around to save their arses. Yes.... NASA.... and by hiring who they did they are ultimately responsible. This obviously doesn't speak well for NASA or Boeing. IMOP, they are both now perfect examples of bloated, inefficient bureaucracy's that have long ago lost their way. Btw, I'm with you on Elon....
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Re: Space X scrubs launch to retrieve Astronauts
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03/18/25 03:51 PM
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If Nasa can't go get people they send up they don't need to send anyone else up. The point is that nasa didn’t hire the best company for the job. Boeing should have never had that contract to begin with. I think they learned that lesson the hard way. Luckily Elon is around to save their arses. Why is NASA hiring someone to do NASA stuff? If they have to “hire” this out, why do we need NASA?
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Re: Space X scrubs launch to retrieve Astronauts
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03/18/25 03:54 PM
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If Nasa can't go get people they send up they don't need to send anyone else up. The point is that nasa didn’t hire the best company for the job. Boeing should have never had that contract to begin with. I think they learned that lesson the hard way. Luckily Elon is around to save their arses. Why is NASA hiring someone to do NASA stuff? If they have to “hire” this out, why do we need NASA? Excellent point.... and can be applied to multiple governmental agencies. "Bureaucrats will never solve the problem... because, if they solve the problem they're charged with solving, they'll solve themselves right out of a job"....
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Re: Space X scrubs launch to retrieve Astronauts
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03/18/25 03:57 PM
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If Nasa can't go get people they send up they don't need to send anyone else up. The point is that nasa didn’t hire the best company for the job. Boeing should have never had that contract to begin with. I think they learned that lesson the hard way. Luckily Elon is around to save their arses. Why is NASA hiring someone to do NASA stuff? If they have to “hire” this out, why do we need NASA? NASA is obsolete as far as I’m concerned. I think there is immense value in space exploration and space related technological R&D but we’ve made it into an era of abundance where the private sector can take the reins.
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Re: Space X scrubs launch to retrieve Astronauts
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03/18/25 03:59 PM
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I didn’t realize she is a hot Ok dude, wth? She’s as hot as an old lawnmower. Don’t know why “lawn mower” comes to mind….maybe it should be weed eater…..something about THAT HAIR!
Eat. Sleep. Fish.
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Re: Space X scrubs launch to retrieve Astronauts
[Re: spazm09]
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03/18/25 03:59 PM
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If Nasa can't go get people they send up they don't need to send anyone else up. The point is that nasa didn’t hire the best company for the job. Boeing should have never had that contract to begin with. I think they learned that lesson the hard way. Luckily Elon is around to save their arses. Why is NASA hiring someone to do NASA stuff? If they have to “hire” this out, why do we need NASA? NASA is obsolete as far as I’m concerned. I think there is immense value in space exploration and space related technological R&D but we’ve made it into an era of abundance where the private sector can take the reins. Get your grok friend to contact Elon and tell him you found another few Billions to cut.  I’ll back you up on it.
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Re: Space X scrubs launch to retrieve Astronauts
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03/18/25 04:00 PM
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If Nasa can't go get people they send up they don't need to send anyone else up. The point is that nasa didn’t hire the best company for the job. Boeing should have never had that contract to begin with. I think they learned that lesson the hard way. Luckily Elon is around to save their arses. Yes.... NASA.... and by hiring who they did they are ultimately responsible. This obviously doesn't speak well for NASA or Boeing. IMOP, they are both now perfect examples of bloated, inefficient bureaucracy's that have long ago lost their way. Btw, I'm with you on Elon.... Absolutelty they are 100% responsible for their Astronauts and the Previous administration is responsible as well. Boeing doesn't force themeselves into these contracts.
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Re: Space X scrubs launch to retrieve Astronauts
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03/18/25 04:09 PM
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If Nasa can't go get people they send up they don't need to send anyone else up. The point is that nasa didn’t hire the best company for the job. Boeing should have never had that contract to begin with. I think they learned that lesson the hard way. Luckily Elon is around to save their arses. Yes.... NASA.... and by hiring who they did they are ultimately responsible. This obviously doesn't speak well for NASA or Boeing. IMOP, they are both now perfect examples of bloated, inefficient bureaucracy's that have long ago lost their way. Btw, I'm with you on Elon.... Absolutelty they are 100% responsible for their Astronauts and the Previous administration is responsible as well. Boeing doesn't force themeselves into these contracts. No they sure didn't.... they legally bid for them (theoretically) and were contacted to perform a job within certain specifications.... which they obviously failed to do. It's sad to see a formerly great company so inept....
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Re: Space X scrubs launch to retrieve Astronauts
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03/18/25 04:15 PM
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I think nasa needs an overhaul to its mission. Elon wants boots on mars in the very near future and anyone who thinks that is still science fiction isn’t paying attention. We are going to colonize our solar system; our species needs to continue to spread out. The US government needs to be involved in a small way but the heavy lifting should be done by the private sector. I don’t really see a point in abolishing nasa just to turn around and make a new federal agency. Gut nasa, get lobbyists out of the equation, fill it with top scientists and engineers and LFG to mars!!!
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