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Re: Sprague doing fine without FFS [Re: dramabeats] #15351901 03/11/25 02:19 AM
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Originally Posted by dramabeats
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Gill won without using the FFS for the win. Should make the never scopers get their whitie tighties in a wad.



Yep, not sure what the excuse from the angry olds will be now, they are running out of things to blame. I’m also watching a bit of the NPFL and the the olds are getting their butts kicked, just like they did in the FFS leagues. I don’t understand why they just can’t accept that the kids out work them.



There's several "olds" in the npfl top 10. Bill Lowen placed 4th and he was on the bilge bitching about livescope. Greg Hackney also hasn't been doing so well and he placed 8th

In fact I believe the majority of the top 10 is in the "old" camp



The oldest person in the top 10 at NPFL was 53, that isn 't NB sporting or cloud yelling old.

Your olds finished:

46 Pete Ponds

48 Matt Herren

68 Todd Auten

99 Tommy Biffle

107 David Fritts


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Re: Sprague doing fine without FFS [Re: grout-scout] #15351905 03/11/25 02:23 AM
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Originally Posted by grout-scout
Just a thought and I might be completely whacked in this. What if all of these guys that used to fish tournaments, are now doing the high school captain thing with their kids? There’s not doubt that there is NOT a shortage of high school anglers out there. Only makes sense if Pop’s is with their kid doing their thing.


There is also a possibility that rayburn is suffering from a little backlash as guys have gotten sick of going down there and giving the local hillbillies money. They finally killed the tourists, I say tourists because that's what one of the local douche nozzles down there used to refer to anyone who came there for tournaments. Castledine touched in it being good for turnouts when a non local won something down there. TTO drew 160 in awful weather so their numbers appear to be holding up which doesn't suprise me.

Re: Sprague doing fine without FFS [Re: WAWI] #15351917 03/11/25 02:42 AM
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Interesting take from Todd Castledine. I don't know anything about the history of Toyota Series events but sounds like 98 boats is pretty low, and these events are the ones MLF is supposed to make some money at. As opposed to BPT events in which they lose $.

I think the low numbers are a result of more than just FFS, but if the numbers are way down in the last few years as Todd suggests it might be more than a coincidence?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0UzwfN-9FoI


I think scope is just the final straw. A lot of guys have lost their joy of fishing because of the egos that have entered the sport. FFS has amplified that tenfold. Guys who only get to fish maybe one day a week are tired of donating their money. So they said to hell with tournaments and are just fishing for fun. The younger generation seems to be less respectful and more entitled. Many guys do not like that. This is just my take, but I have been saying this for a few years now that numbers will drop. Things cost more than they ever have, and guys who used to look forward to the Saturday tournament are now prioritizing their money elsewhere.


While I agree with Castledine I also think the economy has impacted it. I also wonder how much impact having an open, an npfl, a Toyota, a TTT, and TTO all on same day chopped up the field. I saw names in each of those events that I might have expected to see in the toyota if it were by itself.

Spot on, many factors are what’s driving low turnouts

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