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To cold to charge? #15305588 01/18/25 01:46 PM
Joined: Mar 2016 Posts: 149 Saginaw, Texas FewJr OP Outdoorsman
OP FewJr Outdoorsman Joined: Mar 2016 Posts: 149 Saginaw, Texas	Is it a bad idea to charge batteries when temps are below 40 degrees.

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Re: To cold to charge? [Re: FewJr] #15305598 01/18/25 01:57 PM
Joined: Mar 2010 Posts: 28,274 Temple, TX. T Bird TFF Guru
T Bird TFF Guru Joined: Mar 2010 Posts: 28,274 Temple, TX.	Not ideal, but shouldn't be a problem until you get to the 32 degree mark. Okie by birth, Texan by choice. USAF "Thunderbirds" Alumni 1985-1989

Re: To cold to charge? [Re: FewJr] #15305599 01/18/25 01:57 PM
Joined: Feb 2013 Posts: 39,002 THE 903 F Frank the Tank TFF Guru
Frank the Tank TFF Guru F Joined: Feb 2013 Posts: 39,002 THE 903	Why is charging below 32 a problem?? Jesus loves all of us

Re: To cold to charge? [Re: FewJr] #15305616 01/18/25 02:11 PM
Joined: Nov 2023 Posts: 3,218 Nacogdoches Co. N nfhbass TFF Team Angler
nfhbass TFF Team Angler N Joined: Nov 2023 Posts: 3,218 Nacogdoches Co.	Not a problem.

Re: To cold to charge? [Re: Frank the Tank] #15305643 01/18/25 02:40 PM
Joined: Mar 2010 Posts: 28,274 Temple, TX. T Bird TFF Guru
T Bird TFF Guru Joined: Mar 2010 Posts: 28,274 Temple, TX.	Originally Posted by Frank the Tank Why is charging below 32 a problem?? I'm going worst case scenario assuming he may have lithium batteries. If that's the case the plating of metallic lithium occurs on the anode during a sub-freezing charge that leads to a permanent degradation in performance and safety. Okie by birth, Texan by choice. USAF "Thunderbirds" Alumni 1985-1989

Re: To cold to charge? [Re: T Bird] #15305650 01/18/25 02:43 PM
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Frank the Tank TFF Guru F Joined: Feb 2013 Posts: 39,002 THE 903	Originally Posted by T Bird Originally Posted by Frank the Tank Why is charging below 32 a problem?? I'm going worst case scenario assuming he may have lithium batteries. If that's the case the plating of metallic lithium occurs on the anode during a sub-freezing charge that leads to a permanent degradation in performance and safety. Thanks. This reminded me of a question I have about lithium’s. Will start a new thread. Jesus loves all of us

Re: To cold to charge? [Re: T Bird] #15305704 01/18/25 03:39 PM
Joined: Mar 2016 Posts: 149 Saginaw, Texas FewJr OP Outdoorsman
OP FewJr Outdoorsman Joined: Mar 2016 Posts: 149 Saginaw, Texas	Batteries are not lithium

Re: To cold to charge? [Re: FewJr] #15305775 01/18/25 05:22 PM
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T Bird TFF Guru Joined: Mar 2010 Posts: 28,274 Temple, TX.	Originally Posted by FewJr Batteries are not lithium Then you're fine. Okie by birth, Texan by choice. USAF "Thunderbirds" Alumni 1985-1989

Re: To cold to charge? [Re: T Bird] #15305832 01/18/25 06:29 PM
Joined: Feb 2009 Posts: 746 Rockwall,Tx. N n_fish Pro Angler
n_fish Pro Angler N Joined: Feb 2009 Posts: 746 Rockwall,Tx.	If your Lithiums don’t have a BMS, The manufacturer such as Monster Marine says DO NOT charge at 32 degrees or lower. Checked mine this morning after charging for 36 hours and no issues.

Re: To cold to charge? [Re: FewJr] #15306038 01/18/25 10:40 PM
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OP FewJr Outdoorsman Joined: Mar 2016 Posts: 149 Saginaw, Texas	Thanks.

Re: To cold to charge? [Re: n_fish] #15306246 01/19/25 01:01 AM
Joined: Mar 2011 Posts: 1,062 Pilot Point, Texas G goodman_fishing Extreme Angler
goodman_fishing Extreme Angler G Joined: Mar 2011 Posts: 1,062 Pilot Point, Texas	Originally Posted by n_fish If your Lithiums don’t have a BMS, The manufacturer such as Monster Marine says DO NOT charge at 32 degrees or lower. Checked mine this morning after charging for 36 hours and no issues. All of these marine lithiums will have a BMS. 100% of them. More specifically you need to ensure your battery has LTCP, low temperature charge protection (or cut-off). If it does not, you can permanently damage your lithium battery by charging it while it's frozen. Either way, it's best to just leave your lithiums alone during weather like this BUT keep your AGM and Lead-Acids plugged in. 2020 Tracker 190 TX \| 115 ProXS \| Spitfire x7 Prop @ 51mph \| 6" Jackplate \| Garmin Force @36v \| Livescope \| YouTube - Fishing & Lithium Battery Content: https://www.youtube.com/@goodmanfishing/videos

Re: To cold to charge? [Re: FewJr] #15307454 01/20/25 12:33 AM
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davisxx Outdoorsman Joined: Mar 2010 Posts: 136	But how does all this translate when your batteries are plugged into a Minn Kota precision charger??

Re: To cold to charge? [Re: davisxx] #15307459 01/20/25 12:36 AM
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tmd11111 TFF Guru Joined: Apr 2017 Posts: 14,264 San Angelo	Originally Posted by davisxx But how does all this translate when your batteries are plugged into a Minn Kota precision charger?? Chargers don't care how cold it is.

Re: To cold to charge? [Re: FewJr] #15307477 01/20/25 12:54 AM
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avid_basser TFF Celebrity A Joined: May 2019 Posts: 8,737 Pilot Point, TX, Denton	MinnKota chargers will charge until full, then go into maintenance mode. This is how these chargers keep your batteries in check. The BMS along with the maintenance mode should keep your batteries in check.

Re: To cold to charge? [Re: FewJr] #15307490 01/20/25 01:03 AM
Joined: Mar 2010 Posts: 136 davisxx Outdoorsman
davisxx Outdoorsman Joined: Mar 2010 Posts: 136	From the Ionic page: Battery Management Systems (BMS) with power terminal cut-off & recovery Built-in cold weather protection – Does not take a charge if temperatures are below -4C or 24F in our case. Some variations with part tolerances.

Re: To cold to charge? [Re: davisxx] #15307518 01/20/25 01:19 AM
Joined: Apr 2017 Posts: 14,264 San Angelo tmd11111 TFF Guru
tmd11111 TFF Guru Joined: Apr 2017 Posts: 14,264 San Angelo	Originally Posted by davisxx From the Ionic page: Battery Management Systems (BMS) with power terminal cut-off & recovery Built-in cold weather protection – Does not take a charge if temperatures are below -4C or 24F in our case. Some variations with part tolerances. Mind you this is internal battery temperature and not outside air temperature.

Re: To cold to charge? [Re: FewJr] #15308455 01/20/25 08:39 PM
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Phoenix 920 Pro xp TFF Celebrity P Joined: Apr 2005 Posts: 6,487 Waco	you would.be surprised how much cold weather it takes to get lithiums below freezing. fished oh ivie 4 straight days and it never got above freezing and the batteries never got below 36 degrees

Re: To cold to charge? [Re: FewJr] #15309027 01/21/25 02:51 AM
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Lone_Wolf Extreme Angler L Joined: Jun 2017 Posts: 2,746	lead acid batteries like to be kept warm on a charger, lithiums do not Last edited by Lone_Wolf; 01/21/25 02:51 AM.

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