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Re: Fires in CA [Re: nfhbass] #15298655 01/11/25 05:20 AM
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Originally Posted by nfhbass
1oldbassguy, what lakes do you fish most often?


mostly local , Lake Anderson when it was open --- 60+ fish days for 4-5 hours at times . Today mostly Calero Resv ---PB's of 12.5 and 11.4 . Coyote when they had a trout stocking program .
Lexington can be good --- but it's been taken over with spotted bass .
Delta and Clear lake are the best if you want to travel --- but Delta can be dangerous for a lot of reasons .
Lake Amador is where I cut my teeth and it was the first in NorCal to stock Florida strains , it's now become a trout lake

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Originally Posted by TxBassSniper
I guess this would be a question for nfhbass. Biden said the hydrants ran out of water because the power company shut off the power to them.
I've never heard of that. Do any/all the hydrants in that area of California run on electricity?


I wouldn’t listen to a word that come out of Bidens mouth.

I’m sure as more time goes on we’ll know more about what actually happened with the water source around these fires. Right now there is to much hearsay to trust anything.

I don’t know of any hydrants that run off of electricity, but one of the rumors I’ve heard is the 3 1M gallon tanks they have up high on the hill ran out of water quickly and the pumps that fed this tanks were electric and when the power was shut off the tanks stopped filling, thus making the hydrants stop flowing.

It’s all rumor, I really don’t know. I hope they sort it out. I guess they have about 100 these tanks around the city, they probably need emergency generators or something for a backup power source.


Re: Fires in CA [Re: Allison1] #15298657 01/11/25 05:36 AM
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Originally Posted by Allison1
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The smelt are in northern Ca, close to 400 miles away from the fires.
CA has been under a more than a decade long period of low rain.

We have the same problem with water. The easy fix is to build more reservoirs or so it seems.
A couple years of low rain in Texas will leave us with lots of water restrictions.


once again ---dumber than rocks .
I live in Norcal ---for 63 years , We have had crazy amounts of rain past two years . Snow levels -- where we " store " most of the water --- were at all time , never recorded levels ---once again . stay in your lane .
The fight over the Delta is never ending . Water storage in lakes are a major battle --- SoCal wants all of Norcal water . SoCal is a phucking desert . Pat Brown , jerry Brown both did insane deals with 4 major AG farmers ---- a deal so secretive it was locked under secret vault for decades and NOBODY but a corrupt few know what it is . Stuart Resnick in primary controller of that deal .
Water storage is broken at every level . Out of the 7 lakes I used to be able to put in a boat in , only 2 are now open and usually only one ---100% intentional .
We have 4 federal agencies that control what and how we " save " salmon --- and the liberal " lawyer " groups use them to control how they are used . Tiny little rivers have to had running water through for the 5 little steelhead they are saving --- completely disregarding the lake levels or other uses ---to the point of no boating on most of them .

THe newest planned reservoir storage --- The Sites project --- has been hampered by " legal " liberal attacks for 10+ years ---- all to save some stupid salamander . Its all a game


https://calmatters.org/environment/wildfires/2025/01/la-fires-donald-trump-fact-check/
https://www.newsweek.com/why-trump-attacking-gavin-newsom-over-delta-smelt-fish-2012245
https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-new...wildfires-pointing-fingers-de-rcna186983
https://www.abc10.com/article/news/...103-b66dee31-d1d7-4aa9-91cc-0dc11b4cd14e

They could have titled all these articles about you but he has more press.
I bought an outboard, 2 stroke promax from a guy just east of where my brother lived in Morgan Hill. I understand that problem. He had a Jay Smith rebuilt 225 that only had 15 hours on it when some of his local lakes were required to have direct injection motors.
What does it matter how much you had in N California? I was talking about Southern California which is not getting much water from you. They are still facing low water due to lack of rain. So, smelt are not a factor in this. You and Trump may think alike but you are both wrong in the head.


so you buying a motor from a guy makes you the " all time Calif expert " ? when you talk chit like that , it's exactly why not a single person respects you . Direct injection was NEVER required , they talked about banning 2 strokes and making 4 strokes the only option ---it never happened .
I live and fish in the Morgan Hill area --- I know what I am talking about for 63 years and you have one conversation with another dumazz and your the expert .
We send huge amounts of water to SoCal --- without it , Socal would die of thirst . They have sucked the Colorado river basin for everything --- now it's all politics between NorCal and SoCal to get as much as possible . The SoCal interests are way more politically connected and have been for generations . Most of all california's water comes from snowpack --- so YES , what we get in Norcal is super important

lastly --- bringing up your favorite links is childish ---means nothing . simply your pathetic way to seem important and smart .

Re: Fires in CA [Re: 1oldbassguy] #15298658 01/11/25 05:40 AM
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Originally Posted by 1oldbassguy
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1oldbassguy, what lakes do you fish most often?


mostly local , Lake Anderson when it was open --- 60+ fish days for 4-5 hours at times . Today mostly Calero Resv ---PB's of 12.5 and 11.4 . Coyote when they had a trout stocking program .
Lexington can be good --- but it's been taken over with spotted bass .
Delta and Clear lake are the best if you want to travel --- but Delta can be dangerous for a lot of reasons .
Lake Amador is where I cut my teeth and it was the first in NorCal to stock Florida strains , it's now become a trout lake


You ever fish Shasta? I’ve always wanted to fish up there.

I’d also like go stand on a ladder and catch those big trout over on Pyramid on the NV border.

I worked a few years near Susanville on the hotshot crews. We’d fish a bit at Lake Almanor, most small smallmouth for us.

Anyway, I have a soft spot for what you all deal with with the wildfires, I hope somehow you all get some relief.

Re: Fires in CA [Re: TxBassSniper] #15298660 01/11/25 05:43 AM
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Originally Posted by TxBassSniper
I guess this would be a question for nfhbass. Biden said the hydrants ran out of water because the power company shut off the power to them.
I've never heard of that. Do any/all the hydrants in that area of California run on electricity?


the hydrants ran out of water for two reasons --- the lake that holds the primary water for both hydrants and helicopters was empty . Secondly , the power district shut down the power that is needed to run the pumps for the hydrants . It's not known if water would have come from other locations ( other than the one that was empty ) -- But would assume they get it from more than one location .
The local people are now all pointing to arson --- perfectly timed for when the winds would be the worst . It would be super easy to start it in the hills and just watch in take over with the santa ana's .
If it wasn't an arsonist --- could easily been a homeless encampment --- something like 44-50% of all Fire calls in 2024 were due to homeless encampments in LA

Re: Fires in CA [Re: nfhbass] #15298661 01/11/25 05:50 AM
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Originally Posted by nfhbass
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1oldbassguy, what lakes do you fish most often?


mostly local , Lake Anderson when it was open --- 60+ fish days for 4-5 hours at times . Today mostly Calero Resv ---PB's of 12.5 and 11.4 . Coyote when they had a trout stocking program .
Lexington can be good --- but it's been taken over with spotted bass .
Delta and Clear lake are the best if you want to travel --- but Delta can be dangerous for a lot of reasons .
Lake Amador is where I cut my teeth and it was the first in NorCal to stock Florida strains , it's now become a trout lake


You ever fish Shasta? I’ve always wanted to fish up there.

I’d also like go stand on a ladder and catch those big trout over on Pyramid on the NV border.

I worked a few years near Susanville on the hotshot crews. We’d fish a bit at Lake Almanor, most small smallmouth for us.

Anyway, I have a soft spot for what you all deal with with the wildfires, I hope somehow you all get some relief.




thanks ,
never fished Shasta , some of other lakes around there . Bullards Bar has giant spots ---- up to 10 lbs . Trinity had/has the world record smally .
Probably the most scenic area of cali up there .
Talking about fires --- aunt and uncle had a house boat on McClure --- one year , after the Labor day weekend , one of the owners left simmering coals in a weber BBQ . It was tied up on the moring bouys in long string with others --- his boat caught fire and ended up coming off the buoy's --- ended up burning down 13 houseboats --- not a dam thing anyone could do but watch

Re: Fires in CA [Re: uncle_bagster] #15298667 01/11/25 05:54 AM
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Dang, now that’s bad luck!

There is some very beautiful country up that way. We used to hate working fires at Happy Camp but some of the most beautiful rivers I’ve ever seen.

I would like to get to Bullards bar as well. Those western lakes are just so far away, makes it tough.

Re: Fires in CA [Re: uncle_bagster] #15298676 01/11/25 07:45 AM
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1oldbassguy, don't engage with Allison. He's nothing more than a troll, and has no clue about California issues, or the nuances around them. He's just an arrogant blowhard, makes Trump look civil. Maybe one day we go out and wack the Delta together

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Originally Posted by Pintail711
Let’s make sure we have enough bull dykes and basketball enthusiasts employed instead of focusing on what we should. Also, let’s build an entire city in an area with a 3 year fire return interval, never burn it ever, and then be surprised when it catches fire in a catastrophic way 🥴


FRI, something I think very few people on here understand, good on you. Good comment.

Re: Fires in CA [Re: sdavis24] #15298981 01/11/25 04:55 PM
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Originally Posted by sdavis24
1oldbassguy, don't engage with Allison. He's nothing more than a troll, and has no clue about California issues, or the nuances around them. He's just an arrogant blowhard, makes Trump look civil. Maybe one day we go out and wack the Delta together


Ratz brought up the smelt which nfhbass quickly pointed out, had nothing to do with the LA fires. Then 1olbassguy piled on.
I was just pointing out the obvious, that what happened in San Francisco had nothing to do with the LA fires.

As if that took an expert since San Fran is 400 miles away. Now, the expert if there is one is nfhbass. Would you agree?
This is what he said to RATZ when he brought it up.
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haha, thats part of our countries political problem, the smelt have absolutely nothing to do with this problem. Supplies of NorCal water has nothing to do with this. There is billons of gallons of water in LA County, its localized infrastructure weaknesses and how water is able to move to high elevation locations when demand is high.


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Originally Posted by Allison1
Originally Posted by sdavis24
1oldbassguy, don't engage with Allison. He's nothing more than a troll, and has no clue about California issues, or the nuances around them. He's just an arrogant blowhard, makes Trump look civil. Maybe one day we go out and wack the Delta together


Ratz brought up the smelt which nfhbass quickly pointed out, had nothing to do with the LA fires. Then 1olbassguy piled on.
I was just pointing out the obvious, that what happened in San Francisco had nothing to do with the LA fires.

As if that took an expert since San Fran is 400 miles away. Now, the expert if there is one is nfhbass. Would you agree?
This is what he said to RATZ when he brought it up.
Originally Posted by nfhbass
haha, thats part of our countries political problem, the smelt have absolutely nothing to do with this problem. Supplies of NorCal water has nothing to do with this. There is billons of gallons of water in LA County, its localized infrastructure weaknesses and how water is able to move to high elevation locations when demand is high.



Allison, you have to try to be sympathetic to his perspective. He lives in NorCal, hes a fisherman, he wants water in his lakes, you would to, I would. So its probably quite frustrating to see the water go away to SoCal in light of all the issues and challenges there.

This is kind of like seeing Falcon fill up, and then all the sudden, just kidding, the Mexicans need to irrigate. You would start to get irritated if it was issue after issue too.

My opinion was that it probably didnt effect the outcome of the fire, but thats just one part of this puzzle.

Try to tone it down about, you buying a motor in California is completely irrelevant to this topic.

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Like a dog that returns to its vomit is a fool who repeats his folly.

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Originally Posted by Allison1
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1oldbassguy, don't engage with Allison. He's nothing more than a troll, and has no clue about California issues, or the nuances around them. He's just an arrogant blowhard, makes Trump look civil. Maybe one day we go out and wack the Delta together


Ratz brought up the smelt which nfhbass quickly pointed out, had nothing to do with the LA fires. Then 1olbassguy piled on.
I was just pointing out the obvious, that what happened in San Francisco had nothing to do with the LA fires.

As if that took an expert since San Fran is 400 miles away. Now, the expert if there is one is nfhbass. Would you agree?
This is what he said to RATZ when he brought it up.
Originally Posted by nfhbass
haha, thats part of our countries political problem, the smelt have absolutely nothing to do with this problem. Supplies of NorCal water has nothing to do with this. There is billons of gallons of water in LA County, its localized infrastructure weaknesses and how water is able to move to high elevation locations when demand is high.

I’m not going to engage in discourse with you either. You’re just a troll.

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https://therightscoop.com/breaking-...illion-months-before-horrific-wildfires/


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