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I agree 100%. And now that the feds have to bail the state out, why would things change?

I imagine the multimillionaires would’ve had proper insurance on their homes, if the state hadn’t essentially forced insurance companies to leave the state with BS policies. Millionaire doesn’t mean a whole lot when your entire house and the land it sits on is worthless and gone.

Also, a million dollar home out there is a starter home here. My old boss paid a million for his house over 25 years ago. It’s 1,500 square feet. Lots of people are one fire away from losing their million dollar house and being financially ruined out there.

You must be listening to Trump. I'm a supporter of his but he doesn't know squat about the water issues with CA.
Very little water is allocated to the delta smelt if any at all. Actually, I think they haven't found a smelt in the delta in the last few years so they're probably extinct. We have X amount of lakes that these water agencies try and fill up during winter and once they get close to full they have to start releasing water because they have no where to store it. Yes, the state needs more reservoirs. At least 75% of the water used in any given year is used by agriculture. If AG had a choice they would take it all and that's their mentality. They don't care about wildlife or recreation just money. They would plant the entire state in almond trees if China would buy the entire crop.

The smelt are in northern Ca, close to 400 miles away from the fires.
CA has been under a more than a decade long period of low rain.

We have the same problem with water. The easy fix is to build more reservoirs or so it seems.
A couple years of low rain in Texas will leave us with lots of water restrictions.

Nothing will change in California. It could fall in the ocean and the media would blame it on trump and his uneducated supporters.

With all due respect you did compare Texas with California. You wrote "Texas does a seemingly much better job preventing, mitigating and handling than California".

As for the insurance part, good riddance, whatever happens happens with it. if homes can't be insured, and they burn down, maybe people will quit building. Get off the hills. Eventually something will give. A politician is not going to be the tip of the spear or the hinge pin to anything though, I can assure you of that.

I hope Trump comes in with his guns blazing to correct the wildfire issue California and other states, he better bring his pocket book.

once again ---dumber than rocks .
I live in Norcal ---for 63 years , We have had crazy amounts of rain past two years . Snow levels -- where we " store " most of the water --- were at all time , never recorded levels ---once again . stay in your lane .
The fight over the Delta is never ending . Water storage in lakes are a major battle --- SoCal wants all of Norcal water . SoCal is a phucking desert . Pat Brown , jerry Brown both did insane deals with 4 major AG farmers ---- a deal so secretive it was locked under secret vault for decades and NOBODY but a corrupt few know what it is . Stuart Resnick in primary controller of that deal .
Water storage is broken at every level . Out of the 7 lakes I used to be able to put in a boat in , only 2 are now open and usually only one ---100% intentional .
We have 4 federal agencies that control what and how we " save " salmon --- and the liberal " lawyer " groups use them to control how they are used . Tiny little rivers have to had running water through for the 5 little steelhead they are saving --- completely disregarding the lake levels or other uses ---to the point of no boating on most of them .

THe newest planned reservoir storage --- The Sites project --- has been hampered by " legal " liberal attacks for 10+ years ---- all to save some stupid salamander . Its all a game

Sure, in terms of “things can be done” where you’re saying nothing California could have done would’ve changed anything (and you’re the only one saying that that I’ve seen nationally, other than the politicians trying escape blame in California right now). You’re telling me to read about the Bastrop fire, which was awful, and nothing like what’s happening in LA right now.

I think the biggest issue I have with this discussion is your disregard for the people who are absolutely devastated right now due to ineptitude and corruption by California’s government.

Nothing could’ve been done.
It’s extremely difficult.
It’s extremely expensive (for the seventh largest economy in the world, that cut the fire budget, that blows through money, that defaults on loans)
The fire department is excellent (ignoring the budget cuts, the vaccine mandates and DEI initiatives)

Now, you say the homes can’t be insured.

The homes could be insured. They were insured. The politicians decided it was best to limit how much insurance companies could charge, and how they could formulate their premiums -WHILE DOING NOTHING TO MITIGATE THE FIRE RISK - and the insurance companies were going to go bankrupt as a result, leaving home owners with only one option - the state. Guess what? The state can’t afford this. The state has $700 million on hand for the insurance issue. There is already billions of dollars of damage, so that’s a failure. You think it would’ve been more expensive to try some other stuff?

California is literally the poster child for incompetence in almost every respect of governance. But you continue to say things like “they’re not the tip of the spear.”

The politicians literally are the tip of the spear, the bulk of the spear, the shaft of the spear AND the warrior stabbing the homeowners in the heart.

And your response is good riddance?

1oldbassguy, what lakes do you fish most often?

Let’s make sure we have enough bull dykes and basketball enthusiasts employed instead of focusing on what we should. Also, let’s build an entire city in an area with a 3 year fire return interval, never burn it ever, and then be surprised when it catches fire in a catastrophic way 🥴

https://calmatters.org/environment/wildfires/2025/01/la-fires-donald-trump-fact-check/
https://www.newsweek.com/why-trump-attacking-gavin-newsom-over-delta-smelt-fish-2012245
https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-new...wildfires-pointing-fingers-de-rcna186983
https://www.abc10.com/article/news/...103-b66dee31-d1d7-4aa9-91cc-0dc11b4cd14e

They could have titled all these articles about you but he has more press.
I bought an outboard, 2 stroke promax from a guy just east of where my brother lived in Morgan Hill. I understand that problem. He had a Jay Smith rebuilt 225 that only had 15 hours on it when some of his local lakes were required to have direct injection motors.
What does it matter how much you had in N California? I was talking about Southern California which is not getting much water from you. They are still facing low water due to lack of rain. So, smelt are not a factor in this. You and Trump may think alike but you are both wrong in the head.

I guess this would be a question for nfhbass. Biden said the hydrants ran out of water because the power company shut off the power to them.
I've never heard of that. Do any/all the hydrants in that area of California run on electricity?

Trust me, I wasn’t working my tail off for next to money when I worked on that hotshot crew in CA because I didn’t care or disregarded people and their property. You clearly don’t know me, what I stand for, or what that type
of work entails. You might think you do, you’ve probably read and watched some videos, Got raveled up in the moment and the politics of the time, and formulated your opinion. Since you don’t know much about this topic, a lot of what is shown in the news is misleading and incorrect, and you and most of America cant discern fact from fiction. Heck, the media explains the situations incorrectly, they literally have no clue what they are talking about regarding wildfires.

I have a much different perspective on these issues because I’ve seen quite a lot of it unfold over time. Bad fires, burned up forests, houses, floods, hurricanes, tornadoes, search and rescues, all sorts of stuff. All over the country. I've been apart of assisting these issues in 27 states. There are issues that arise all the time with how these emergencies are managed. Communities are caught off guard all the time. Is that poor planning, perhaps, we should should know better by now, right? I have no idea about LA's budget, i'm not even going to pretend to know, but nothing will change in LA until people move from some of these areas. I've already used the best analogy I can think of, if you live on top of an active volcano, you have to realize that eventually it will errupt.

I listened to an interview about a guy that had his car bulldozed out of the way. he was trying to leave, and the police told them they had to get out of there car and run for their lives down the street. While he was talking, he said his childhood home burned down, and he was hoping his home now isnt burned down. If you keep living in a problem area, you're going to get problems.

You keep brining up DEI, let me share something with you. In 2000 there was a really busy fire year and the feds and politicians all got together and created the national fire plan. This was supposed to be the cure. They opened up their wallet and splurged like never before. They did studies to identify staffing and equipment shortages, All the sudden there was sorts of additional help. They almost doubled the number of hotshot crews to what is now over 100. Guess where they put a few of those hotshot crews? Right outside Chicago, IL and in Jackson,MS. They exist still to this day. Midewin Hotshots and Jackson Hotshots. Jackson is a bureau of land mgmt crew midewin is a us forest service crew Take a guess why they would put hotshot crews in those locations. There is hardly a wildfire ever, anywhere near those two locations that needs a hotshot crew. DEI is not new, maybe it’s a new acronym. These problems are ancient. Can you see now why I don’t see anyone changing it? Guess what, the staffing they originally advised in 2001 was completely unsustainable, and most agencies have had to back way off of what was suggested.

I hope I’m completely wrong, up until around 2011, seasonal firefighters in the feds weren’t covered by healthcare, pathetic right? Guess who changed that? A group of outspoken hotshots from a crew in South Dakota, I worked with one of them at the smokejumper base, it wasnt someone over on capital hill.

I can assure you that none of these politicians know anything about how to solve the problems of fires in California. None of them will be proactive enough to create a solution. Very little will change. Nobody is all the sudden going to start a bunch of prescribed fires or do a massive thinning of brush. None of that will happen. They point a finger and express some concern and then it will all be over with. Watch.

Seems like the hot thing right now is some extra water tanks, maybe some new water tanks will show up, and the next big fire will be a different set of circumstances and the water situation won’t be issue. Everyone is shooting at a moving target and missing, knee jerk reacting to what just happend.

Nobody has the authority to completely relocate people from these areas to mitigate the risk of wildfire. That would be about the only solution. Have everyone pack their bags, and head east. Build a huge city out in the flats by Edwards AFB and don’t allow anyone to construct homes in the hills, especially on the west side and that will be that, all the land will be taken through eminent domain, bought at fair market value and transferred to the USFS. Free lots in the Mojave Desert. Problem solved.
People, homes, and environment will never exist without wildfire. So remove the first 2, and let the fires burn when they will.

So look, a whole new round of BS, and it’s sad and it’s no good, just like the fires in HI, the hurricane NC among others recently, the public to a large degree doesnt want actual help. Whats the saying? "you can lead a horse to water, but you cant make it drink"