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Senko style bait vs fluke style bait
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12/26/24 06:34 PM
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davidsears
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If your fishing these baits strictlyTexas rig weightless ( say near the 5" size) , no wacky rig, what prompts you to use one over the other? I have a dedicated bait caster set up with one or the other always tied on, but I couldn't tell you in what particular scenario why I would choose one over the other. If I'm fishing topwater, I like to have the weightless senko on deck as a follow up for a blow-up and miss, but I guess I could just as easily use the fluke. If I'm fishing shallow, I like throwing these baits to targets, but I really couldn't tell you why I would use one or the other. I've caught more fish with a weightless senko, because I've used it more than the fluke and I like catching them this way, but recently have started using the fluke more. Are there scenarios where one is better than the other Texas rigged weightless? Also I know some of you can fish these over deeper water with great success, I just really haven't developed the patience to let one of these baits fall in over 8 ft. of water. Is that a mistake I need to correct? I don't have FFS, which I could see would be beneficial to see if fish are reacting to your bait. I would appreciate any info, thanks in advance.
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Re: Senko style bait vs fluke style bait
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12/26/24 06:45 PM
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Weightless senkos are generally fished by casting them out and letting them fall, the bite comes on the fall or when it hits bottom. I usually just reel in and make another cast if I don’t get bit…
Weightless flukes have a different action that can be worked similar to a jerkbait, but different.
Sometimes you just need to throw different stuff and see what they open their mouths for.
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Re: Senko style bait vs fluke style bait
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12/26/24 06:52 PM
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I have a Ring Fry and a Shad style bait always tied on and the one reason is that if I am fishing an area where I expect fish to be I will throw a Shad bait and let it dart around the area looking for active fish like where I may have been catching topwater fish. If I am actually fishing targets like dock poles or stumps or lay downs where I want my bait to go to a specific spot I go with the Ring Fry so I can pin point my cast so the bait moves exactly where I want it without darting 2 or 3 feet away from the target.
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Re: Senko style bait vs fluke style bait
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davidsears
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I have a Ring Fry and a Shad style bait always tied on and the one reason is that if I am fishing an area where I expect fish to be I will throw a Shad bait and let it dart around the area looking for active fish like where I may have been catching topwater fish. If I am actually fishing targets like dock poles or stumps or lay downs where I want my bait to go to a specific spot I go with the Ring Fry so I can pin point my cast so the bait moves exactly where I want it without darting 2 or 3 feet away from the target. If you don't mind sharing, what shad style bait do you use and is it weightless?
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Re: Senko style bait vs fluke style bait
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12/26/24 07:16 PM
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On the senko I really like to screw in a small #3 willow spinner in the tail. Adds some flash. Caution: once you start doing it you won't fish it naked anymore. You're welcome. To answer your question, if fish are more cover oriented I throw a senko. If I'm not sure where they are or if they are scattered or they are chasing shad or I'm having to cover water faster I'm throwing a fluke type.
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Re: Senko style bait vs fluke style bait
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12/26/24 07:21 PM
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Grass/pads/docks/skipping under brush/spring/fall/high water/aggressive fish….fluke
Timber/rocks/summer/winter/finicky fish….senko
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Re: Senko style bait vs fluke style bait
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Thanks guys, great info, this is what I'm looking for. I'm not very fast out of the gate, but I usually make up for it near the finish line sometimes.
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Re: Senko style bait vs fluke style bait
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12/26/24 08:25 PM
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On the senko I really like to screw in a small #3 willow spinner in the tail. Adds some flash. Caution: once you start doing it you won't fish it naked anymore. You're welcome. To answer your question, if fish are more cover oriented I throw a senko. If I'm not sure where they are or if they are scattered or they are chasing shad or I'm having to cover water faster I'm throwing a fluke type. Sounds expensive. With as many senkos I go though on a typical day of fishing, the spinner blade addition would make me take a second mortgage.
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Re: Senko style bait vs fluke style bait
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12/27/24 01:04 AM
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In the middle of winter slooooooooooow dragging a fluke across the bottom can catch fish on days when nothing else works. I think it works better than the senko because it falls slower. The trick is going so slow its nearly painful.
Other than that, around cover I will probably senko and around structure I will probably fluke. I have a dedicated rod for each and if 1 is working, both rods will be on deck to see which is working better. I use 12 or 15 lb Fluorocarbon with a senko and 10 or 12 lb mean green with a fluke.
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Re: Senko style bait vs fluke style bait
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12/27/24 03:06 AM
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In the middle of winter slooooooooooow dragging a fluke across the bottom can catch fish on days when nothing else works. I think it works better than the senko because it falls slower. The trick is going so slow its nearly painful.
Other than that, around cover I will probably senko and around structure I will probably fluke. I have a dedicated rod for each and if 1 is working, both rods will be on deck to see which is working better. I use 12 or 15 lb Fluorocarbon with a senko and 10 or 12 lb mean green with a fluke.
Do you use the same rod for both? When you say drag a fluke on the bottom, how deep are you talking and are you still doing it weightless?
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Re: Senko style bait vs fluke style bait
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12/27/24 03:47 AM
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Weightless senkos are generally fished by casting them out and letting them fall, the bite comes on the fall or when it hits bottom. I usually just reel in and make another cast if I don’t get bit…
Weightless flukes have a different action that can be worked similar to a jerkbait, but different.
Sometimes you just need to throw different stuff and see what they open their mouths for.
You should consider expanding on the senkos versatility.
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Re: Senko style bait vs fluke style bait
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12/27/24 04:12 AM
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Weightless senkos are generally fished by casting them out and letting them fall, the bite comes on the fall or when it hits bottom. I usually just reel in and make another cast if I don’t get bit…
Weightless flukes have a different action that can be worked similar to a jerkbait, but different.
Sometimes you just need to throw different stuff and see what they open their mouths for.
You should consider expanding on the senkos versatility. I could. I prefer a jig over a senko about 98% or the time.
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Re: Senko style bait vs fluke style bait
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12/27/24 04:36 AM
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On the senko I really like to screw in a small #3 willow spinner in the tail. Adds some flash. Caution: once you start doing it you won't fish it naked anymore. You're welcome. To answer your question, if fish are more cover oriented I throw a senko. If I'm not sure where they are or if they are scattered or they are chasing shad or I'm having to cover water faster I'm throwing a fluke type. Sounds expensive. With as many senkos I go though on a typical day of fishing, the spinner blade addition would make me take a second mortgage. Yeah you lose a few. I usually save that for tourneys but I don't fish many anymore. I try to save mt blades off my old a-rigs and various other spinners and buy the little screw things and make my own. Try to get the fish to the boat before he can sling it.LOL.
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Re: Senko style bait vs fluke style bait
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12/27/24 12:08 PM
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I have a Ring Fry and a Shad style bait always tied on and the one reason is that if I am fishing an area where I expect fish to be I will throw a Shad bait and let it dart around the area looking for active fish like where I may have been catching topwater fish. If I am actually fishing targets like dock poles or stumps or lay downs where I want my bait to go to a specific spot I go with the Ring Fry so I can pin point my cast so the bait moves exactly where I want it without darting 2 or 3 feet away from the target. If you don't mind sharing, what shad style bait do you use and is it weightless? I use a few different Shad style baits. The Strike King Caffeine Shad, Lake Fork Lures Sancho and of course Zoom Super Fluke which I use for Carolina rigging. I use the Sancho when I am really covering water quickly and the Caffeine Shad with a 1/16 ounce weight when I am fishing really slowly on the bottom. I also use a Shad style bait on an Owner Flashy Swimmer rig which is a Lake Fork Lures Magic Shad and Jawtec Punch Shad I have rigged on a Texas rig with 5/16 ounce weight for mainly flipping in heavy cover.
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Re: Senko style bait vs fluke style bait
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12/27/24 02:58 PM
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In the middle of winter slooooooooooow dragging a fluke across the bottom can catch fish on days when nothing else works. I think it works better than the senko because it falls slower. The trick is going so slow its nearly painful.
Other than that, around cover I will probably senko and around structure I will probably fluke. I have a dedicated rod for each and if 1 is working, both rods will be on deck to see which is working better. I use 12 or 15 lb Fluorocarbon with a senko and 10 or 12 lb mean green with a fluke.
Do you use the same rod for both? When you say drag a fluke on the bottom, how deep are you talking and are you still doing it weightless? No on the rod choice. I use a 6'10" medium jerk bait rod for the fluke and a 7'3" medium heavy rod for senkos. If there is light or no wind, you can fish the fluke down to about 10. Unless I am specifically targeting a dock, I very rarely fish weightless deeper than 8 ft. The c rig allows you to cover more water deeper and is usually a better option for that.
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