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What did your parents teach you
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12/23/24 12:19 AM
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Bigbob_FTW
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My grandpa was a mechanic who taught my dad who taught me. I can fix anything. Can't even guess how much i saved over the years. My mom taught me the love of God and faith. I miss them both so much. How about you?
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12/23/24 12:30 AM
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My dad was pretty absent most of my formative years. My grandfather taught me all kinds of country things from gardening on a large scale, scalding and scraping hogs, nature thangs from all kinds of animal habits (and how to hunt), which knots on a toothache tree work, how to build stuff . . . the list is endless. Mostly he taught me how to work.
Advice? Wise men don't need it. Fools won't heed it.
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Re: What did your parents teach you
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12/23/24 12:32 AM
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My dad was pretty absent most of my formative years. My grandfather taught me all kinds of country things from gardening on a large scale, scalding and scraping hogs, nature thangs from all kinds of animal habits (and how to hunt), which knots on a toothache tree work, how to build stuff . . . the list is endless. Mostly he taught me how to work. Not a bad thing at all.
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12/23/24 12:38 AM
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SteezMacQueen
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Mine taught me to have a strong work ethic and to be an honest person.
Eat. Sleep. Fish.
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12/23/24 12:41 AM
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malibu6501
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Resilience. Good German/Polish stock.
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Re: What did your parents teach you
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12/23/24 12:43 AM
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My father: Yeah, well, he taught me early on that people are ****ing *******s. He also taught me to duck, because more often than not, a damn fist or wrench would come flying at your head for no reason.
My mom: Taught me that you can overcome most things and still be kind, even to those that don't deserve it.
My paternal grandpa taught me how to garden and how to make people laugh.
To those of you that had good parents, may God bless you and them. For those of us that didn't...may we be better than that from which we came.
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Re: What did your parents teach you
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12/23/24 12:49 AM
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Bigbob_FTW
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My father: Yeah, well, he taught me early on that people are ****ing *******s. He also taught me to duck, because more often than not, a damn fist or wrench would come flying at your head for no reason.
My mom: Taught me that you can overcome most things and still be kind, even to those that don't deserve it.
My paternal grandpa taught me how to garden and how to make people laugh.
To those of you that had good parents, may God bless you and them. For those of us that didn't...may we be better than that from which we came. I would wish God bless those that didnt as well. You are worthy!
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Re: What did your parents teach you
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12/23/24 12:52 AM
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My dad was a welder, mechanic and machinist, he taught me all three along with how to hunt and fish. There were no girls born into our family so Mom taught me how to cook, sew and other necessary household chores. Both of them taught me to be a man of my word and Mom took me to church and thanks to her and the preacher at a revival, I accepted Jesus at my savior. I have tried to pass these traits along to my children. I consider myself blessed.
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12/23/24 12:59 AM
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HasBen
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My dad was a D-Day veteran and a lifelong farmer and outdoorsman. He taught me to love this country and to respect the land. I hope I am half the man he was.
“ When you're racing, it's life. Anything that happens before or after is just waiting.”. Steve McQueen
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12/23/24 01:07 AM
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BassFever
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How not to treat kids and to act the same in public as you do in private. I had to live with my Grandparents and a few other family members at times. My grandfather was one of the church's deacon's all the while cussing out every other driver on the road while he raced us to church so he could put his face on and be the big guy in the church's eye. I won't even say what I found out later he had done to both my mom and her sister and one of my two sisters. My worthless father, last time I saw him before he died, I was 10 and the police were arresting him. My poor mother wasn't much better, addicted to several things plus her choices in husbands wasn't good and did it 5 times before her death.
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Re: What did your parents teach you
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12/23/24 01:08 AM
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Fishspanker
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Plenty. Way more than I ever learned in college. Mostly the money I spent going to college delivered very little.
My dad was raised on a dairy farm. When he left there he was a heavy equipment operator. We always drove equipment at young ages. We had our own field cars when I was 9. We got Mini-Mac chainsaws when I was 10 and my brother was 12. We did about anything and everything. It’s the reason I can do all the work on equipment at work.
My mom was an only child. Her dad was a factory worker. My mom’s was the typical mom of the day. Dad worked. Mom took care of us while dad was working.
Taught us the about a lot. Work ethic, doing the right thing, value of a man’s word, how to manage things in life such as finances.
Lucky to have the parents we did. I took it for granted for a long time. I thought everyone’s parents did what ours did raising us with their sacrifices and being a family. Only later did I realize lots of others didn’t have good parents.
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The Sheep who only fears the Wolf is eaten by the Shepherd.
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12/23/24 01:08 AM
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My dad taught me "yessir" and "no sir" with "damn few no sirs" tolerated. Also taught me he hated dandelions and I was the official dandelion remover from his yard. Haven't removed a dandelion since I went into the Navy in October of 1968. He was a China gunboat sailor and WWII and Korea vet. His "teachings" have served me fairly well, and I give thanks for him.
I could very easily have not turned out well.
Non Sibi Sed Patriae -- "Not for self, but for country."
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12/23/24 01:09 AM
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If you take a man's paycheck, then give him an honest day's work.
Family is everything! Life is precious. We don’t have forever. We have now. This moment. We can choose to love our lives now.
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12/23/24 01:11 AM
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Work ethic God Don’t ever sue anyone
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Re: What did your parents teach you
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12/23/24 01:11 AM
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butch sanders
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How not to treat kids and to act the same in public as you do in private. I had to live with my Grandparents and a few other family members at times. My grandfather was one of the church's deacon's all the while cussing out every other driver on the road while he raced us to church so he could put his face on and be the big guy in the church's eye. I won't even say what I found out later he had done to both my mom and her sister and one of my two sisters. My worthless father, last time I saw him before he died, I was 10 and the police were arresting him. My poor mother wasn't much better, addicted to several things plus her choices in husbands wasn't good and did it 5 times before her death. Lo siento Glad you came out ok
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12/23/24 01:52 AM
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Work ethic Joys of still hunting cat squirrels Joys of river fishing for “eating size” channel catfish. Avoidance of debt for no reason.
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12/23/24 02:29 AM
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My Pops taught me being a man of your word, being honest, and being a very hard worker you will get far in life.
My Mom taught me that being a patient and listening before jumping will warrant you the best outcome. I still work on this trait.
Both my Grandpas taught me the outdoors and how to work hard on farms. They also taught me many of the Boy Scout / McGuyver skills that I know today.
My Grandma Korbel taught me my love for cooking and German/Czech foods.
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12/23/24 03:24 AM
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Honest work with good work ethics. These are just two of the many more things in life he taught me. Had a good strong relationship with both my Dad and Mom!
IGFA World Record Rio Grande Cichlid. Lake Dunlap. John 3:16 Sinner's Prayer. God forgive me a sinner. I accept Jesus Christ as my Savior !
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12/23/24 03:35 AM
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Dad - your word is everything Mom - you are loved be sure you love others and don’t worry about the details
"..The pleasantist angling is to see the fish Cut with her golden oars the silver stream, And greedily devour the treacherous bait. Bill Shakespeare
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12/23/24 03:39 AM
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Lord loves a workin’ man and don’t trust whitey
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12/23/24 03:42 AM
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Mark Perry
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I was 3 years old when my Dad passed away. My Mom moved us in with my grandparents. Luckily my grandfather became my father figure. He taught me so much thatI couldn't put it all in one post. The best lessons were the ones that he never spoke a word about. He was a farmer and to this day probably the hardest worker I've ever seen. He got up every day and worked his butt off. Seeing that consistency and NEVER on e hearing g him make an excuse for anything that went wrong. He just fixed it. He gave me my love of fishing too. My grandmother was probably the nicest, sweetest lady I've ever known. She taught me a love of family and what that truly means. My Mom and I have always had a bit of a strained relationship. Nothing bad but there has always been a little distance between us. She's pent some years in her own head after my Dad died and kinda kept her distance. She always said I reminded her of him too much and it was harder for her to let him go etc. Nothing horrible just one of those things that families go through I guess. I' have no complaints about my life though. It's not been a bad one. People have gone through far worse than I ever had. I don't hold any grudges about any of it. Would have loved for my kids and grandkids to have had the chance to know my Dad more than regret for me never really knowing him.
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12/23/24 03:50 AM
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Like LoneStarSon, my father wasn't much of one. My mom & l took the brunt of abuse that came from alcoholism. Coming up back then the resources were not there to get away from it for a mother and 4 children. Grandparents were dirt poor & we were just a step above it. Grandfather (mom's dad) passed away when l was 6, otherwise he probably would have killed my father. My father did take me fishing, but that was another reason for him to drink. He did work though and provided a home. Mom worked too in a low wage job and she managed the household finances. She aspired to be more and despite only having a GED, she is very smart. She eventually worked herself into a position in the company she was with that had her traveling to Mexico, Guatemala & El Salvador. Her doing this was an inspiration to me when l had the opportunity to go to Russia for work and to AK afterward.
If anything was passed down from my father, it was the idea that l didn't want to be like him. I have never drank anything with alcohol.
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12/23/24 03:56 AM
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Like LoneStarSon, my father wasn't much of one. My mom & l took the brunt of abuse that came from alcoholism. Coming up back then the resources were not there to get away from it for a mother and 4 children. Grandparents were dirt poor & we were just a step above it. Grandfather (mom's dad) passed away when l was 6, otherwise he probably would have killed my father. My father did take me fishing, but that was another reason for him to drink. He did work though and provided a home. Mom worked too in a low wage job and she managed the household finances. She aspired to be more and despite only having a GED, she is very smart. She eventually worked herself into a position in the company she was with that had her traveling to Mexico, Guatemala & El Salvador. Her doing this was an inspiration to me when l had the opportunity to go to Russia for work and to AK afterward.
If anything was passed down from my father, it was the idea that l didn't want to be like him. I have never drank anything with alcohol.
Big respect for your Mom-
What has happed to you does not define who you are-
HOW you react to what happens to you DOES!
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12/23/24 10:58 AM
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My parents taught me a lot that I wish I would have listened too. Main one I think he learned from my grandpa is if you can't pay for it in cash you can't afford it.
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12/23/24 12:02 PM
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My dad taught me to hunt and fish. Other than that he showed me how not to be a dad. I learned how to cook and be self sufficient from my mom.
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12/23/24 12:13 PM
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Respectfully to all, thank you for sharing I will refrain from the same, except saying mental abuse is lifelong.
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12/23/24 12:26 PM
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Accountability for one’s own actions Hard work ethic
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12/23/24 01:03 PM
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Wow. I can't imagine some of the life that you guys grew up in. It's hearbreaking that so many of you had such bad family relationships. My dad was a high school dropout at 16 when all three of his older brothers went to WW2, and like most of the men in his family, became a brick layer. Hard working does not begin to describe it. I grew up in S. Oak Cliff. I didn't think of us as "poor" because we had the just about the same lifestyle as those around us. What we did have is a loving, Christian family. One older brother and twin younger sisters. Dad never met a stranger. When I was a kid it would embarrass me the way he would just walk up to strangers and start talking to them. Many times about the Lord, but most of the time just being friendly. As I got older it became one the things that I will always look back on and smile about. He loved to make people laugh. I got that trait from him. Mom was the one who kept us in line most of the time, but if she ever told us, "wait til your dad gets home"...uh oh. Dad didn't play when it came to doing what mom told us. None of this "I'm gonna count to three [censored]" or "time out". But when I got the punished, I dang sure knew I deserved it. I remember when I was about 8 and had done something stupid that I knew was wrong dad told me something that I'll never forget and have passed it down to a lot of folks. He sat me down on our back porch, looked me straight in the eyes, and said, "Son, there's gonna be a lot of times in your life when you're gonna have to make a decision on what's right and what's wrong. Maybe your friends want you to do something that you're not sure of whether to go along with them or not. He drew a little line in the dirt and said as he pointed to each side, "one side is right, and one side is wrong. There's no middle on this line. If you don't know if what you're about to do is right or wrong, just don't do it and you'll never end up in trouble." Simple words, but man did it save me from myself over and over.
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12/23/24 01:16 PM
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12/23/24 01:17 PM
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honesty,hard work,hunting,fishing…..I did lot better on the hunting/fishing part…,
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12/23/24 01:19 PM
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My parents taught me that thier son was an a-hole. LOL
Life journey is not to arrive at the grave safely in a well preserved state. But rather skid in sideways, totally worn out, shouting "holy carp what a ride!"
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12/23/24 01:34 PM
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Pretty much anything of value... Dan
"The problem with having a sense of humor is often that people you use it on aren't in a very good mood"... Lou Holtz
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12/23/24 01:57 PM
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My dad taught me patience because I think he saw I didn’t have any.
I only absorbed about 10% of that lesson.
That 10% probably has been cashed in countless times.
My mom taught me if I wanted it I had to go get it on my own because her and nobody else was going to do it for me.
That lesson stuck.
I’ve never depended on them ever for anything.
I was the red headed step child..
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12/23/24 02:10 PM
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Dad taught me to hate football.
Mom, taught me how to fish. She'd pick me up from school and straight to Belton lake we went. Her and I, banked fished for hours.
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12/23/24 02:13 PM
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My parents taught me by example, hard work!!!
They did NOT tell me, they showed me, both of them.
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Re: What did your parents teach you
[Re: fivebites]
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12/23/24 03:15 PM
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steveiam
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Wow. I can't imagine some of the life that you guys grew up in. It's hearbreaking that so many of you had such bad family relationships. My dad was a high school dropout at 16 when all three of his older brothers went to WW2, and like most of the men in his family, became a brick layer. Hard working does not begin to describe it. I grew up in S. Oak Cliff. I didn't think of us as "poor" because we had the just about the same lifestyle as those around us. What we did have is a loving, Christian family. One older brother and twin younger sisters. Dad never met a stranger. When I was a kid it would embarrass me the way he would just walk up to strangers and start talking to them. Many times about the Lord, but most of the time just being friendly. As I got older it became one the things that I will always look back on and smile about. He loved to make people laugh. I got that trait from him. Mom was the one who kept us in line most of the time, but if she ever told us, "wait til your dad gets home"...uh oh. Dad didn't play when it came to doing what mom told us. None of this "I'm gonna count to three [censored]" or "time out". But when I got the punished, I dang sure knew I deserved it. I remember when I was about 8 and had done something stupid that I knew was wrong dad told me something that I'll never forget and have passed it down to a lot of folks. He sat me down on our back porch, looked me straight in the eyes, and said, "Son, there's gonna be a lot of times in your life when you're gonna have to make a decision on what's right and what's wrong. Maybe your friends want you to do something that you're not sure of whether to go along with them or not. He drew a little line in the dirt and said as he pointed to each side, "one side is right, and one side is wrong. There's no middle on this line. If you don't know if what you're about to do is right or wrong, just don't do it and you'll never end up in trouble." Simple words, but man did it save me from myself over and over. I enjoyed reading this thanks-
What has happed to you does not define who you are-
HOW you react to what happens to you DOES!
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Re: What did your parents teach you
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12/24/24 04:54 PM
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Indirectly, work and honesty.
Fishing, a man knows a serenity of soul and peace of mind that he finds in doing nothing else, and it makes no difference whether or not he catches anything. The mind of a true fisherman is not on petty subjects.
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12/24/24 05:13 PM
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My dad taught me responsibility. I learned that if something needs to be done you get it done before playing, sleeping, or anything else. "That's going to be hard", "I'm tired", or "it's not my turn to do it" weren't excuses. He was a brilliant man so I wanted to be smart like he was. He loved sports, especially football. I definitely learned that from him. I also learned about guns and shooting.
I learned manners and respect from my mom. Yes sir, yes ma'am, please, and thank you. I learned nurturing and kindness laced with a hot temper...actually from both of them. I also learned quite a vocabulary, both good and bad. LOL.
Both of my parents were Christians. There was no question about their belief, so from the time I was old enough to understand there has been no question about mine. I am thankful for that.
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[Re: Grasshopperglock]
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12/24/24 05:34 PM
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Coach Hark
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Dad taught me to hate football.
Mom, taught me how to fish. She'd pick me up from school and straight to Belton lake we went. Her and I, banked fished for hours. How did he teach you to hate football?
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Re: What did your parents teach you
[Re: Bigbob_FTW]
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12/24/24 05:41 PM
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Gusick
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Never trust anyone over 30.
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