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Re: Umm Ben what?!?! [Re: grout-scout] #15277251 12/19/24 05:50 PM
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Wait a minute, you didn’t read what the TPWD spokesperson said about him being ticketed and see the news story about the class c felony charge? You’ve basically seen nothing about the case except for the inaccurate arrest information?



Seems like the biggest issue here is that the TPWD spokesperson said, “Ben KNOWINGLY falsified the entry form”. Now if the spokesperson made that info up, I assume Ben will be dropping a lawsuit against them.


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Just in case you didn't see this earlier lmao





Saw it and have seen several other reports, that statute doesn’t exist, so how can we believe anything they wrote? They can’t even cite the current statute, seems awfully odd to me…lmoa….


It's not a report its literally the booking records from the county

Also the statute does exist, I know reading is hard for you so I noted an important detail

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It's not a report its literally the booking records from the county

Also the statute does exist, I know reading is hard for you so I noted an important detail




Hold up Dre, so you’re saying it’s really statute 66.023 and subsection (d) says that it’s a felony of the third degree if the prizes are worth $10,000 or more? Is that what you mean with the “I can’t read”? Because it’s looking like I can read pretty decently.

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Originally Posted by grout-scout
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It's not a report its literally the booking records from the county

Also the statute does exist, I know reading is hard for you so I noted an important detail




Hold up Dre, so you’re saying it’s really statute 66.023 and subsection (d) says that it’s a felony of the third degree if the prizes are worth $10,000 or more? Is that what you mean with the “I can’t read”? Because it’s looking like I can read pretty decently.


Yes! Now you're getting it!

You commented that he was charged with a Felony, he was not

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Originally Posted by dramabeats

You commented that he was charged with a Felony, he was not



Yes, one of the news articles stated that he was charged with a felony and if you read that description above, that is a felony. No where do I see a “class B misdemeanor” in statute 66.023, nor do I find statute “66.119”, so exactly who made up all of these non-fact checking charges in that police department?

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Originally Posted by dramabeats
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I'm not sure Ben was written a ticket or paid a fine. I have not read that in an article yet but did read that TPWD only found out about it recently when they were reviewing the paperwork before the end of the year. He may have been ticketed but I have not read that anywhere.

I believe he innocently entered the fish, then discovered that his license was not current. Instead of the embarrassment of going to the TPWD he just let it go. He should have manned up and done what the other guy did and we would not be sitting here talking about it today.
Does that mean they were right for charging him? Ben had to have known since February when he bought his new license that his fish was illegally entered.



Wait a minute, you didn’t read what the TPWD spokesperson said about him being ticketed and see the news story about the class c felony charge? You’ve basically seen nothing about the case except for the inaccurate arrest information?



Seems like the biggest issue here is that the TPWD spokesperson said, “Ben KNOWINGLY falsified the entry form”. Now if the spokesperson made that info up, I assume Ben will be dropping a lawsuit against them.


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Just in case you didn't see this earlier lmao



So he was out of jail 20 minutes after the cuffs went on his wrists!
Dang. My uncle did 12 years in Tyler awaiting extradition on drug trafficking charges. He had a couple kilos, a bag of loose diamonds, and a case of Dom Perignon in the trunk on his way to my sisters wedding. This was back in the 80’s. Them Tyler boys didn’t like his Mexican plates on his XJ12 . Haha.


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Originally Posted by grout-scout
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You commented that he was charged with a Felony, he was not



Yes, one of the news articles stated that he was charged with a felony and if you read that description above, that is a felony. No where do I see a “class B misdemeanor” in statute 66.023, nor do I find statute “66.119”, so exactly who made up all of these non-fact checking charges in that police department?


Below is from statute 66.023. If the amount you can win is under $10,000 it's a class A misdemeanor, if it's $10,000 or more it's a 3rd degree felony. The way the booking info shows class b/a misdemeanor is a little weird.

(d) An offense under this section is a Class A misdemeanor, except that if the offense occurred during a tournament in which any prize or combination of prizes to be awarded for any one category for which an award is given, whether the prize or prizes are to an individual or a team, is worth $10,000 or more in money or goods, the offense is a felony of the third degree.

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Geez guys you break the law, you get a fine or jail time. Pretty simple. It’s called the Rule of Law. Google it. Now can we talk about hows the fishing on Welsh and Squaw?????


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Re: Umm Ben what?!?! [Re: MBoehm1729] #15277309 12/19/24 07:22 PM
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Originally Posted by MBoehm1729


Below is from statute 66.023. If the amount you can win is under $10,000 it's a class A misdemeanor, if it's $10,000 or more it's a 3rd degree felony. The way the booking info shows class b/a misdemeanor is a little weird.

(d) An offense under this section is a Class A misdemeanor, except that if the offense occurred during a tournament in which any prize or combination of prizes to be awarded for any one category for which an award is given, whether the prize or prizes are to an individual or a team, is worth $10,000 or more in money or goods, the offense is a felony of the third degree.



Yep, almost screams of “publicity stunt”, but there’s no way they’d let it get this out of hand. Interesting times in Texas.

Would have been an awesome Aprils fool prank.

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Originally Posted by grout-scout
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You commented that he was charged with a Felony, he was not



Yes, one of the news articles stated that he was charged with a felony and if you read that description above, that is a felony. No where do I see a “class B misdemeanor” in statute 66.023, nor do I find statute “66.119”, so exactly who made up all of these non-fact checking charges in that police department?


So you trust the news over official county records? lmao

The DA obviously chose not to charge with him a Felony for any number of reasons. Maybe because it's actually two separate drawings, or they didn't want to a call a grand jury, whatever the case may be hes not facing a felony


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Maybe his boat wrap for next year will say that real big on the side…😆

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Originally Posted by dramabeats


So you trust the news over official county records? lmao

The DA obviously chose not to charge with him a Felony for any number of reasons. Maybe because it's actually two separate drawings, or they didn't want to a call a grand jury, whatever the case may be hes not facing a felony




When they can’t even charge him with the current statute, then YES, I believe what I read and hear from other sources.

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Originally Posted by dramabeats
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Originally Posted by Allison1


I'm not sure Ben was written a ticket or paid a fine. I have not read that in an article yet but did read that TPWD only found out about it recently when they were reviewing the paperwork before the end of the year. He may have been ticketed but I have not read that anywhere.

I believe he innocently entered the fish, then discovered that his license was not current. Instead of the embarrassment of going to the TPWD he just let it go. He should have manned up and done what the other guy did and we would not be sitting here talking about it today.
Does that mean they were right for charging him? Ben had to have known since February when he bought his new license that his fish was illegally entered.



Wait a minute, you didn’t read what the TPWD spokesperson said about him being ticketed and see the news story about the class c felony charge? You’ve basically seen nothing about the case except for the inaccurate arrest information?



Seems like the biggest issue here is that the TPWD spokesperson said, “Ben KNOWINGLY falsified the entry form”. Now if the spokesperson made that info up, I assume Ben will be dropping a lawsuit against them.


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Originally Posted by dramabeats
Originally Posted by grout-scout
Originally Posted by Allison1


I'm not sure Ben was written a ticket or paid a fine. I have not read that in an article yet but did read that TPWD only found out about it recently when they were reviewing the paperwork before the end of the year. He may have been ticketed but I have not read that anywhere.

I believe he innocently entered the fish, then discovered that his license was not current. Instead of the embarrassment of going to the TPWD he just let it go. He should have manned up and done what the other guy did and we would not be sitting here talking about it today.
Does that mean they were right for charging him? Ben had to have known since February when he bought his new license that his fish was illegally entered.



Wait a minute, you didn’t read what the TPWD spokesperson said about him being ticketed and see the news story about the class c felony charge? You’ve basically seen nothing about the case except for the inaccurate arrest information?



Seems like the biggest issue here is that the TPWD spokesperson said, “Ben KNOWINGLY falsified the entry form”. Now if the spokesperson made that info up, I assume Ben will be dropping a lawsuit against them.


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Just in case you didn't see this earlier lmao




This means nothing. What the sheriff posted on their website does not mean a thing. What matters is what the complaint filed with the clerk says. That is the legal charging document. If someone has a copy of that, please post it. And just because TPWD filed charges, it MIGHT still require county attorney approval. It's possible TPWD consulted with the county attorney prior to the filing of charges however. If someone can find a copy of the arrest affidavit, would be interesting to read the whole thing and not the snippet the news posted.

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Originally Posted by GMTK
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Originally Posted by Allison1


I'm not sure Ben was written a ticket or paid a fine. I have not read that in an article yet but did read that TPWD only found out about it recently when they were reviewing the paperwork before the end of the year. He may have been ticketed but I have not read that anywhere.

I believe he innocently entered the fish, then discovered that his license was not current. Instead of the embarrassment of going to the TPWD he just let it go. He should have manned up and done what the other guy did and we would not be sitting here talking about it today.
Does that mean they were right for charging him? Ben had to have known since February when he bought his new license that his fish was illegally entered.



Wait a minute, you didn’t read what the TPWD spokesperson said about him being ticketed and see the news story about the class c felony charge? You’ve basically seen nothing about the case except for the inaccurate arrest information?



Seems like the biggest issue here is that the TPWD spokesperson said, “Ben KNOWINGLY falsified the entry form”. Now if the spokesperson made that info up, I assume Ben will be dropping a lawsuit against them.


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Just in case you didn't see this earlier lmao




This means nothing. What the sheriff posted on their website does not mean a thing. What matters is what the complaint filed with the clerk says. That is the legal charging document. If someone has a copy of that, please post it. And just because TPWD filed charges, it MIGHT still require county attorney approval. It's possible TPWD consulted with the county attorney prior to the filing of charges however. If someone can find a copy of the arrest affidavit, would be interesting to read the whole thing and not the snippet the news posted.


I don't know why you guys insist that he's being charged with something other than a misdemeanor. A felony requires an grand jury indictment that we would've already heard about

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