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Re: Umm Ben what?!?! [Re: McLovin’] #15273927 12/16/24 03:40 AM
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Originally Posted by McLovin’
No excuse for not having a fishing license if fishing is what you do for your living, but Mr Green jeans have had several instances where they blew stuff up before …chill out fish police….LOL


I don't think anyone disagree's with you about there is no excuse for not having a license. This issue is should it be a ticket for no license or should it be something that someone should be able to be sent to the county jail for up to a year.

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Re: Umm Ben what?!?! [Re: mudd] #15273943 12/16/24 04:03 AM
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Sure hope he had a year-from-purchase license that had just expired, its going to be different story if he had been fishing since Sept 1 to Feb with no valid license.

Re: Umm Ben what?!?! [Re: mudd] #15273952 12/16/24 04:32 AM
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If they follow through with a felony charge, I also will not participate in sharelunker. Is this program run out of New York?


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Re: Umm Ben what?!?! [Re: outfishdya] #15273967 12/16/24 05:20 AM
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Originally Posted by outfishdya
If they follow through with a felony charge, I also will not participate in sharelunker. Is this program run out of New York?


It was a Class A misdemeanor that he was charged with. The timing of his current license purchase might give a clue whether he knew about it when he filled out the form. If he bought a new license close to the time he filled out the form then he probably knew that he should have withdrawn his entry at that time.

He fishes tournaments all the time and February is in the middle of that season. I can't believe he had no license since the end of August. It was probably a yearly date to date license.
These are all questions that we don't know the answer to. I believe he will show up in court and plead no contest and pay the fine. I doubt if he faces any jail time over a misdemeanor.

Re: Umm Ben what?!?! [Re: mudd] #15274006 12/16/24 11:45 AM
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I don’t make it through all 5 pages, forgive me if this has already been posted.

My understanding is he caught the fish, realized he didn’t have a license, went and bought a license, then submitted the fish to the SAL program. If that’s the actual case, he knew he caught it illegally but chose to commit fraud by going ahead and buying a license then submitting the fish. If that’s how it went down I 100% agree with the charge… as it fits the definition of fraud.

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Originally Posted by buda13
I don’t make it through all 5 pages, forgive me if this has already been posted.

My understanding is he caught the fish, realized he didn’t have a license, went and bought a license, then submitted the fish to the SAL program. If that’s the actual case, he knew he caught it illegally but chose to commit fraud by going ahead and buying a license then submitting the fish. If that’s how it went down I 100% agree with the charge… as it fits the definition of fraud.

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Fits the definition and INTENT in my opinion are two things that need to be considered. This is probably the most ridiculous chit ive ever seen regarding tpwd. Why would someone like him care about a 5,000 dollar shopping spree to bass pro shops roflmao You know how many 13s hes caught that he doesn't turn in because he doesn't wanna blow up the lake? That wasn't his first in the season.

The best part is if you google tpwd Ben miliken and read the article about the day he submitted it their own spokesperson that wrote the article doesn't make it sound like a tournament or contest at all. They just decided to go after that chicken chit charge because the headlines would make him look bad when in reality it wasn't a tournament or a contest at all..... it was actually a tpwd program that his company sponsors hammer

Re: Umm Ben what?!?! [Re: Barrett] #15274056 12/16/24 12:50 PM
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Originally Posted by Barrett
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I don’t make it through all 5 pages, forgive me if this has already been posted.

My understanding is he caught the fish, realized he didn’t have a license, went and bought a license, then submitted the fish to the SAL program. If that’s the actual case, he knew he caught it illegally but chose to commit fraud by going ahead and buying a license then submitting the fish. If that’s how it went down I 100% agree with the charge… as it fits the definition of fraud.

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Fits the definition and INTENT in my opinion are two things that need to be considered. This is probably the most ridiculous chit ive ever seen regarding tpwd. Why would someone like him care about a 5,000 dollar shopping spree to bass pro shops roflmao You know how many 13s hes caught that he doesn't turn in because he doesn't wanna blow up the lake? That wasn't his first in the season.

The best part is if you google tpwd Ben miliken and read the article about the day he submitted it their own spokesperson that wrote the article doesn't make it sound like a tournament or contest at all. They just decided to go after that chicken chit charge because the headlines would make him look bad when in reality it wasn't a tournament or a contest at all..... it was actually a tpwd program that his company USED TO sponsors hammer


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Re: Umm Ben what?!?! [Re: mudd] #15274069 12/16/24 01:03 PM
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The whole deal is blown out of proportion. I don't think anyone minds that he got a ticket for no license. Accidents happen. The rest of the situation reeks of a GW with little man's syndrome. Whoever signed off on this recharging of something that by reports he had already paid his ticket for needs to have their Texas resident permit pulled and be shipped off to California or New York. If the share a lunker program was involved then they have probably run their course and any support for them needs to end

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The whole deal is blown out of proportion. I don't think anyone minds that he got a ticket for no license. Accidents happen. The rest of the situation reeks of a GW with little man's syndrome. Whoever signed off on this recharging of something that by reports he had already paid his ticket for needs to have their Texas resident permit pulled and be shipped off to California or New York. If the share a lunker program was involved then they have probably run their course and any support for them needs to end



Spot on

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Its hit the fishing forum that I'm banned for life from..... it will go 50 pages and turn into a murder charge soon.



I deleted my own comment. I actually thought initially he was trolling everyone.... grin

Aren't you a mod over there tell communist Al that I'm not sorry about substituting the word candadian for dookie and using it in sentences but his forum would be better off with me posting instead of the morons from incestuous relationships that normally post there.


He booted me off his page for not agreeing with his boating preferences long ago. I am sure he is a far lefty because his feeling get hurt so easily



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They probably are short on funds to spray more grass and figured they could milk Ben for some.......

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Its hit the fishing forum that I'm banned for life from..... it will go 50 pages and turn into a murder charge soon.



I deleted my own comment. I actually thought initially he was trolling everyone.... grin

Aren't you a mod over there tell communist Al that I'm not sorry about substituting the word candadian for dookie and using it in sentences but his forum would be better off with me posting instead of the morons from incestuous relationships that normally post there.


He booted me off his page for not agreeing with his boating preferences long ago. I am sure he is a far lefty because his feeling get hurt so easily


He is an idiot......

Re: Umm Ben what?!?! [Re: WAWI] #15274109 12/16/24 01:34 PM
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Originally Posted by WAWI
They probably are short on funds to spray more grass and figured they could milk Ben for some.......


Yes; it’s not like he speared a fake triploid grass carp that lives for twenty years and actually reproduces.


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I see it two ways.

1. When he was fined and his fish DQ’d, his name should have been removed from the 2 x $5k drawings. End of story, right.

2. He was fined, fish was DQ’d; but he INTENTIONALLY lied on the SAL application. OK, make an example out of him I suppose. Maybe the state will finally get tough on tournament cheaters like R Rose.

And when I say “intentionally”, I mean that he knew his license was expired and tried to sneak it by.

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