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Re: Hot water heater replacement
[Re: Beak47]
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12/01/24 06:06 PM
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Grasshopper the electric tanks have an anode rod protruding down into the tank.I know because I replaced it on my last unit. Sacrificial. rod! Yeah, the heating element. The gas has a 3" (?) Diameter pipe running through the length of the tank. Inside the pipe is swirled piece of steel. You can use both kinds for a BBQ pit. It's a decently thick iron tank. It's just the electric takes a hair less work to seal up the various holes. We built them in junior high shop class. For the kids that wanted one. There was a bullpen next to the shop full of old water heaters. The tanks are thick enough it'll last for years and years.
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Re: Hot water heater replacement
[Re: bloo_rainger]
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12/01/24 06:49 PM
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I wonder if you could cut a 3" hole in a water heater after draining and remove the sludge by hand? I have a Milwaukee hole saw that's supposed to cut through most anything. Not only is my electric water heater elevated, it's in a tight place.
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Re: Hot water heater replacement
[Re: bloo_rainger]
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12/01/24 06:50 PM
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No it is not the heating elements as they come in on the side. The anode rod comes in from the top and and are a real b..tch to remove for replacement. Takes like a 7/8 socket and a breaker bar to bust them loose- and maybe some PP Blaster!. Home Depot and Lowes generally carry them for about $40 or Amazon too!
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Re: Hot water heater replacement
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12/01/24 07:11 PM
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The new water heaters have more insulation than the old units due to gov regs and will be larger for the same capacity. Measure to make sure the new on fits. Just to clarify ![[Linked Image]](https://rootermansc.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/07/iOsjliv.jpeg) They are both gas heaters. They both have exhaust ports on top. You don't say...lol
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Re: Hot water heater replacement
[Re: Beak47]
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12/01/24 07:14 PM
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No it is not the heating elements as they come in on the side. The anode rod comes in from the top and and are a real b..tch to remove for replacement. Takes like a 7/8 socket and a breaker bar to bust them loose- and maybe some PP Blaster!. Home Depot and Lowes generally carry them for about $40 or Amazon too! If I owned a water heater and wasn't renting it. If it stopped making water hot. I'd flush it out, change the elements out. Checking the thermostat and anode before paying big bucks for a new one. $40 bucks is cheap compared to buying one from Lowe's. Unit cost, having to transport and jamming it in the closet. A friend charges a flat $300 to switch a water heater out. Not including the cost of the heater itself. Unless the freaking tank has a hole in it. I'm fixing it.
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Re: Hot water heater replacement
[Re: Grasshopperglock]
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12/01/24 07:17 PM
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No it is not the heating elements as they come in on the side. The anode rod comes in from the top and and are a real b..tch to remove for replacement. Takes like a 7/8 socket and a breaker bar to bust them loose- and maybe some PP Blaster!. Home Depot and Lowes generally carry them for about $40 or Amazon too! If I owned a water heater and wasn't renting it. If it stopped making water hot. I'd flush it out, change the elements out. Checking the thermostat and anode before paying big bucks for a new one. $40 bucks is cheap compared to buying one from Lowe's. Unit cost, having to transport and jamming it in the closet. A friend charges a flat $300 to switch a water heater out. Not including the cost of the heater itself. Unless the freaking tank has a hole in it. I'm fixing it. Replaced the anode rod in mine this year. I had to pull the old one out as far as I could, cut it, and repeat until I got it out. They should put the segmented one in from the start.
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Re: Hot water heater replacement
[Re: Grasshopperglock]
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12/01/24 07:20 PM
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No it is not the heating elements as they come in on the side. The anode rod comes in from the top and and are a real b..tch to remove for replacement. Takes like a 7/8 socket and a breaker bar to bust them loose- and maybe some PP Blaster!. Home Depot and Lowes generally carry them for about $40 or Amazon too! If I owned a water heater and wasn't renting it. If it stopped making water hot. I'd flush it out, change the elements out. Checking the thermostat and anode before paying big bucks for a new one. $40 bucks is cheap compared to buying one from Lowe's. Unit cost, having to transport and jamming it in the closet. A friend charges a flat $300 to switch a water heater out. Not including the cost of the heater itself. Unless the freaking tank has a hole in it. I'm fixing it. And eventually the bottom will fall out. Been there.
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Re: Hot water heater replacement
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12/01/24 07:25 PM
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I’ve replaced several over the years. Easier with two men.
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Re: Hot water heater replacement
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12/01/24 07:25 PM
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Beak47
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I had already replaced both heating elements and thermostats on the Rheem that died. And before that the. anode and drained and vacuumed it out once a year which is no small task! but stopped heating and kept popping the reset button and eventually the breaker on the panel so apparently was an internal short, It was 8;years old so we got our moneys worth out of it!
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Re: Hot water heater replacement
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12/01/24 07:27 PM
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If your gas line is direct soldered into the old unit, you need to call a plumber. If it uses a piece of flex hose, then you can probably handle it if you have the tools and know-how.
Even after you drain it, the old unit will weigh around 100 lbs. Make sure you can handle it, and know how/where you are going to dispose of it. If your gas line is soldered into the heater then please take a picture- that would be a unicorn.
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Re: Hot water heater replacement
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12/01/24 07:32 PM
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Electric in garage on stand did the first two myself but had to add a not to code “loop de loop” for pressure relief line to outside due to water heater size changes. The last one 2 years ago I had a plumber install to code - he laughed at my loop de loop line but said it was functionally sound.
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Re: Hot water heater replacement
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12/01/24 07:33 PM
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If your gas line is direct soldered into the old unit, you need to call a plumber. If it uses a piece of flex hose, then you can probably handle it if you have the tools and know-how.
Even after you drain it, the old unit will weigh around 100 lbs. Make sure you can handle it, and know how/where you are going to dispose of it. If your gas line is soldered into the heater then please take a picture- that would be a unicorn. I've never heard of that either. Little lone seen it. I wanna see it too.
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Re: Hot water heater replacement
[Re: bloo_rainger]
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12/01/24 07:43 PM
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I’m just curious why anyone would need a heater for already hot water
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Re: Hot water heater replacement
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12/01/24 07:44 PM
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300 for a change out handy Andy job no way a plumber would do it for that
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Re: Hot water heater replacement
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12/01/24 07:48 PM
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300 for a change out handy Andy job no way a plumber would do it for that He's a general maintenance man that maintains rental properties. He's one of the guys that show up after you placed a maintenance request. You don't know him from Adam and he does it, routinely, for $300 bucks. Charged to the landlord.
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