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Reel Speed
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11/18/24 07:37 PM
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Douglas J
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Why do so many people make such a big deal out of reel speed?
The more experienced anglers rarely mention it, but it seems to be a hot topic among novices.
For example, with a 6.3:1 and an 8.1:1 reel, assuming the spool diameter is the same, it takes about 9 fewer turns of the handle to reel in 100 feet of line with the faster reel. Not a huge difference.
In reality, you can fish 99% of techniques with a 6.8:1 to 7.1:1 reel and just adjust your retrieval speed manually, depending on the situation.
What are your thoughts on this?
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Re: Reel Speed
[Re: Douglas J]
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11/18/24 07:45 PM
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Mark Perry
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I never have understood people saying they get fatigued from using a faster reel. Same with both rod and reel weights. Some act like they are literally worn out from using a combo that might be an ounce heavier... I think it's all overrated in regards to reel speed and weights.
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Re: Reel Speed
[Re: Douglas J]
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11/18/24 07:51 PM
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SteezMacQueen
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Wasted thought in my book.
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Re: Reel Speed
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11/18/24 07:51 PM
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Douglas J
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I never have understood people saying they get fatigued from using a faster reel. Same with both rod and reel weights. Some act like they are literally worn out from using a combo that might be an ounce heavier... I think it's all overrated in regards to reel speed and weights. I agree, was debating this with someone and they were 100% convinced that you could not reel in a 6XD type plug with anything over 5:4.1 reel. I have been doing it for years. The faster you can pick up the slack of the initial cast, the faster you can get the bait to depth. They also are convinced you cannot make a buzz bait perform as designed with a 6 speed reel.
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Re: Reel Speed
[Re: Douglas J]
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11/18/24 07:51 PM
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beartrap
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just bought couple of kast king 10/1 ratio reels to use on peacock bass fishing in Jan. …used 7/1 ratio last trip and it wasn’t fast enough for ripping those wood chopper topwater baits and catching up slack fast enough…plan to use them on flipping sticks bass fishing….
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Re: Reel Speed
[Re: Douglas J]
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11/18/24 08:08 PM
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Mark Perry
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I never have understood people saying they get fatigued from using a faster reel. Same with both rod and reel weights. Some act like they are literally worn out from using a combo that might be an ounce heavier... I think it's all overrated in regards to reel speed and weights. I agree, was debating this with someone and they were 100% convinced that you could not reel in a 6XD type plug with anything over 5:4.1 reel. I have been doing it for years. The faster you can pick up the slack of the initial cast, the faster you can get the bait to depth. They also are convinced you cannot make a buzz bait perform as designed with a 6 speed reel. I just swapped out all my reels. I simplified it this time. I replaced all bottom technique, topwater, jerkbaits and frogs with 7 speeds. Almost other moving baits are 6 speed. I've ran the full circle of perfectly matching every bait to a different speed. I've learned that I can do all my fishing with those 2 speeds. Could probably get by just using 1 speed for everything if I tried. Some people are adamant that a jig or jerkbait only work in cooler water, that swimbaits only work in clear water and topwater/frog only works on overcast says or low light. I've had people argue that a technique specific rod can only be used for that technique....
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Re: Reel Speed
[Re: Douglas J]
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11/18/24 09:57 PM
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grandbassslayer
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I do have a 5.4:1 for deep cranking - that’s the only reel I care about the speed- it’s gets old doing it on high speed reel for any length of time.
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Re: Reel Speed
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11/18/24 10:09 PM
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grout-scout
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Here’s what I have found in regards to reel speeds, I have tried all various ratios and have found that I can’t catch fish with any of them. So, it’s a mute point for my suckness.
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Re: Reel Speed
[Re: grout-scout]
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11/18/24 10:50 PM
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KnotTexan
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Here’s what I have found in regards to reel speeds, I have tried all various ratios and have found that I can’t catch fish with any of them. So, it’s a mute point for my suckness. I concur with this statement.
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Re: Reel Speed
[Re: Douglas J]
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11/18/24 11:31 PM
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Oh gosh I remember when all reels were 5:2:1. You had to really spin it to get a rat l trap to move fast enough. Daiwa came out with the first 6:3:1 back late 80’s early 90’s that I remember, called it a Rippin Reel. I broke like 4 of them throwing rat l traps at Fork in the hydrilla in winter. Gosh that was fun. 7:1:1 just seems too fast for me so I go with the 6 most of the time. Seem like the more physically stronger guys dont mind the faster reels and the fatigue associated with them. It’s a personal thing just like everything else in fishing. Just like guys that refuse to throw a A rig because it’s too heavy or too expensive to rig up. Choices, it’s all about choices my friend.
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Re: Reel Speed
[Re: Douglas J]
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11/19/24 01:21 AM
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avid_basser
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Only time I slow down my reels is cranking. I feel I get bites when it's slower in retrieves and don't get as many hang ups when using a 6 speed reel. I have more confidence in my 8 speed reels when froggin, tossing jigs, and power shotting. Everything else I use 7 speed. Just more of a feel thing than anything else.
I've never once complained about the reel / rod making me tired. I will say that deep cranking all day will wear your shoulder out, if you're rod isn't up to it.
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Re: Reel Speed
[Re: Douglas J]
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11/19/24 04:26 AM
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Squirrely Dan
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Honestly I always felt like just getting higher reel speed and just slowing down my reeling as needed. But it helps imo to have higher when landing a fish. Or getting out of cover
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Re: Reel Speed
[Re: grout-scout]
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11/19/24 02:35 PM
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SoCal Tom
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Here’s what I have found in regards to reel speeds, I have tried all various ratios and have found that I can’t catch fish with any of them. So, it’s a mute point for my suckness. This
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Re: Reel Speed
[Re: Squirrely Dan]
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11/19/24 03:05 PM
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coosa
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Honestly I always felt like just getting higher reel speed and just slowing down my reeling as needed. But it helps imo to have higher when landing a fish. Or getting out of cover That's my philosophy too. I haven't found a downside to a faster reel and don't buy anything else. The Abu 5000 that my dad gave me in the early 60s is something like 3.8-1, but it was a big step up from the Pflueger Supreme that I had been using. If I want to use a crankbait when it's really cold I still use the 5000 some, though it's more for nostalgia than any perceived advantage.
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Re: Reel Speed
[Re: Douglas J]
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Dan21XRS
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For crankbaits I stay in the 5:1 ratio... Everything else is in the 6:2 range... Dan
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