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Ukraine Drone Strike on Moscow #15243743 11/10/24 11:10 PM
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https://www.reuters.com/world/europ...-closure-two-moscow-airports-2024-11-10/

Ukraine attacks Moscow with 34 drones, biggest strike on the Russian capital


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Gotta get them in now before Trumps ends the war…and cuts off the $.

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Zelensky is going to do all possible to try and turn this into a World War.

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Zelenskyy can’t let the war end. Too much money at stake. Trying to escalate it to a point where a settlement can’t be negotiated.


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Originally Posted by Fishspanker
Zelenskyy can’t let the war end. Too much money at stake for HIM AND THE DEMOCRATS. Trying to escalate it to a point where a settlement can’t be negotiated.



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Zelenskyy is almost as bad a Putin IMO. And like all that is said above. POS


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Hope those drones did some damage. Putin deserves it.

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Originally Posted by Fishspanker
Zelenskyy can’t let the war end. Too much money at stake. Trying to escalate it to a point where a settlement can’t be negotiated.


exactly true.


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Originally Posted by Fishspanker
Zelenskyy can’t let the war end. Too much money at stake. Trying to escalate it to a point where a settlement can’t be negotiated.


Agree.... with one caveat.... substitute "Globalists" for "Zelensky"... he's nothing more than a vessel..

Isn't it amazing that Trump REPORTEDLY has one phone call with Putin asking him not to escalate (in preparation for a settlement) and suddenly Moscow is bombed (a "Ukranian" escalation). IF true it doesn't take much imagination or ability to critically think to understand what's going on.

Even if NOT true it still doesn't take much to understand what's going on based on history (Afghanistan, Libya, Iraq, hell, Vietnam) combined with what occurred last Tuesday...


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The warhawks still have a little over 2 months to cause some damage... President Trump is going to have his hands full come day 1... Dan


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Slava Ukraini. They should take out the transmission lines from the Kursk NPP when hard winter sets in.


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Originally Posted by Dan21XRS
The warhawks still have a little over 2 months to cause some damage... President Trump is going to have his hands full come day 1... Dan


Not just the Warhawks Dan... as I know you're well aware...


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Originally Posted by Dan21XRS
The warhawks still have a little over 2 months to cause some damage... President Trump is going to have his hands full come day 1... Dan


Trump, Jr posted a message a within the last few days directed at Zelensky telling him his allowance is about to run out.

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The warhawks still have a little over 2 months to cause some damage... President Trump is going to have his hands full come day 1... Dan


Trump, Jr posted a message a within the last few days directed at Zelensky telling him his allowance is about to run out.

Lol long over due

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Originally Posted by Fishin' Nut
Slava Ukraini. They should take out the transmission lines from the Kursk NPP when hard winter sets in.



Why you say Slava Ukraini? Are you from the Ukraine?

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Putin started it...


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Originally Posted by Jig Man
Putin started it...


Disagree.

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Russia at 700,000 casualties in this war. I think they are averaging over 1000 per day. Not a bad investment IMO to not have any American blood spilled and achieve this. I think Patton was right at the end of WW2.

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Originally Posted by Dan90210 ☮
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Slava Ukraini. They should take out the transmission lines from the Kursk NPP when hard winter sets in.



Why you say Slava Ukraini? Are you from the Ukraine?


his masters command it. None of them have any skin in the game, but plenty of money to lose.


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Didn't y'all learn the main stream is full of chit?

You can't trust numbers. Especially numbers trying to get you to agree with giving a dictator more money. Ukraine doesn't have a president. He cancelled elections.

As for Russia. Germany blew them off too and you know how that turned out.

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You don't think Putin is a dictator? He's been in power for 20 plus years and any on his political rivals mysteriously fall out of windows or are poisoned. Literally one of the most evil leaders of any country.

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Originally Posted by Dan90210 ☮
Originally Posted by Fishin' Nut
Slava Ukraini. They should take out the transmission lines from the Kursk NPP when hard winter sets in.



Why you say Slava Ukraini? Are you from the Ukraine?

He’s just a dork and doesn’t know any better. I find it amusing that the left are war hawks all of the sudden. I get it, Putin is a bully and an invader- we can acknowledge that without sending all of our tax dollars there and supporting WW3. We’ve got 99 problems and Russia ain’t one…

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Ukraine has pretty much been under Russian control since the 14 century and pretty much under russian government rule since 18th century.

Russian mob took several states or countries after Reagan bankrupt Russia in the early 80's. The early 90's russia was so weak the mob just took the countries over.

I guess if Russia is really as weak as some want to say then we could or should have been able to walk through Russia anyway. There was never a reason to spent 100's of billions of money/weapons to beat a country that is so weak after giving 80 billion to the terrorist when the failed exit happen. We have given trillions to this total BS by the democrats.

You can't say we gain anything from this and also say look how weak russia is.
How did we not know they were this weak if they really are.

Democrats tend to want to justify their BS and cost us money.

bring our troops home only help our allies and our national interest for security. Fighting in a civil war in what as been a russian territory for 500 years, isn't my idea of money well spent. The actor called president is a joke and thug

just my .02

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You don't think Putin is a dictator? He's been in power for 20 plus years and any on his political rivals mysteriously fall out of windows or are poisoned. Literally one of the most evil leaders of any country.


well other than 20 years and the name putin, put clinton in there and what's the difference? lots of people sucided under clinton rule. I wonder what the real story is about JFK

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Originally Posted by Jig Man
Putin started it...


Because NATO had been saber rattling (for almost 15 years) in regards to inviting Ukraine into NATO. Something of which Putin stated was a red line for Russia. (you can research his reasoning quite easily, as well as the Warhawks reasoning)

Look, I'm NO fan of Putin, but, neglect to take him at his word at your own risk....



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Originally Posted by Slicefixer
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Putin started it...


Because NATO had been saber rattling (for almost 15 years) in regards to inviting Ukraine into NATO. Something of which Putin stated was a red line for Russia. (you can research his reasoning quite easily, as well as the Warhawks reasoning)

Look, I'm NO fan of Putin, but, neglect to take him at his word at your own risk....



well said.

We would do the same if say Russia try to install nukes say in Cuba

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There is also this thing called the Budapest Memorandum in case anyone doesn't know about it they can google it. In a nutshell it was a deal to give up their nuclear weapons for a sovereignty guarantee. I don't think we are holding up our promise on that and Putin certainly did not. I am 100% Republican by the way.

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Originally Posted by doctorb
There is also this thing called the Budapest Memorandum in case anyone doesn't know about it they can google it. In a nutshell it was a deal to give up their nuclear weapons for a sovereignty guarantee. I don't think we are holding up our promise on that and Putin certainly did not. I am 100% Republican by the way.


As good as any....


https://theconversation.com/ukraine...stern-europe-could-provoke-russia-177999


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I have a Polish friend here that emigrated from Poland 10 or 12 years ago. He told me Russians and Ukrainians are the same thing, let them fight and don't spend a dime.

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Originally Posted by Slicefixer
Originally Posted by Jig Man
Putin started it...


Because NATO had been saber rattling (for almost 15 years) in regards to inviting Ukraine into NATO. Something of which Putin stated was a red line for Russia. (you can research his reasoning quite easily, as well as the Warhawks reasoning)

Look, I'm NO fan of Putin, but, neglect to take him at his word at your own risk....




Right.

I mean if Russia was like, "Hey buds, we are going to put some weapons in Mexico, right near that wall and ask them to join or club that promises to fight with each other no matter what..." You think America would be like "Oh that is cool".

Or would we say F that, I dont like that. And if to stop that we have to take over Mexico, maybe we will do just that.

And then folks would be like, "Well Mexico and US have a long and often shared history. They have similarities in culture, a lot of Americans are Mexican a lot of Americans speak Spanish and Mexicans speak English etc..."

That is Russia and the Ukraine dig? All that talk about offering to bring Ukraine into NATO was not a good idea.... Putin was not playing and he will NOT lose this war. If that means nukes then he will do that...

We need to get to the table and end this right away. Waste of human lives, waste of money, and very risky game that only benefits the rich.

Remember what Ike told us 65 years ago or so..."In the councils of government, we must guard against the acquisition of unwarranted influence, whether sought or unsought, by the military-industrial complex. The potential for the disastrous rise of misplaced power exists, and will persist."

Right now they are making bombs and the intent is to drop them all...

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Originally Posted by Dan90210 ☮
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Originally Posted by Jig Man
Putin started it...


Because NATO had been saber rattling (for almost 15 years) in regards to inviting Ukraine into NATO. Something of which Putin stated was a red line for Russia. (you can research his reasoning quite easily, as well as the Warhawks reasoning)

Look, I'm NO fan of Putin, but, neglect to take him at his word at your own risk....




Right.

I mean if Russia was like, "Hey buds, we are going to put some weapons in Mexico, right near that wall and ask them to join or club that promises to fight with each other no matter what..." You think America would be like "Oh that is cool".

Or would we say F that, I dont like that. And if to stop that we have to take over Mexico, maybe we will do just that.

And then folks would be like, "Well Mexico and US have a long and often shared history. They have similarities in culture, a lot of Americans are Mexican a lot of Americans speak Spanish and Mexicans speak English etc..."

That is Russia and the Ukraine dig? All that talk about offering to bring Ukraine into NATO was not a good idea.... Putin was not playing and he will NOT lose this war. If that means nukes then he will do that...

We need to get to the table and end this right away. Waste of human lives, waste of money, and very risky game that only benefits the rich.

Remember what Ike told us 65 years ago or so..."In the councils of government, we must guard against the acquisition of unwarranted influence, whether sought or unsought, by the military-industrial complex. The potential for the disastrous rise of misplaced power exists, and will persist."

Right now they are making bombs and the intent is to drop them all...


100%.....and we did, see "Cuban Missile Crisis"... fortunately backdoor diplomacy worked and Khrushchev removed the missiles. I shudder to think where we'd be minus JFK's backbone and Khrushchev's sanity...

Diplomacy is the only answer to this war... and it won't be reached via globalist toadies....


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Putin has certainly accelerated his country's demographic problem. Ukraine's as well.

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Putin didn't invade Ukraine because of NATO. Virtually all the previous invasions from the west have been launched through the Baltic states or Poland which are already part of NATO.

Russia is vast, but only 7% of it is arable land fit for growing crops. 60% of Ukraine is arable. Plus, the strategic significance of Crimea and it's black seaports.

Putin invaded Ukraine because he saw weakness in the white house and thought he could waltz in and take it just like he took Crimea under Obamas watch. It's an attractive target with all the arable land, minerals, and strategically significant geography. His generals told him it would be easy. He's since sacrificed 700,000 men trying to save face.

Ukraine is a sovereign country. They have every right to defend themselves in any way shape or form they please. I don't blame them for begging for help and blasting the snot out of Moscow whenever they can.

We've honestly played the whole thing pretty well up to this point. We've accomplished our goal. We've destroyed Russia ability to conduct another ground war with minimal expense and no American lives. We've exposed Putin's military for what it is. Putin is no longer living under any illusions of what is military is. Mission accomplished. Time to get out and cheer for Ukraine from afar.


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Trump will have this ended by Feb 1st…if not sooner.

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Trump will have this ended by Feb 1st…if not sooner.


My thoughts as well, I don't think he will have a hard time from Putin, now the beggar in the green t shirt may be tricky

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Trump will have this ended by Feb 1st…if not sooner.


My thoughts as well, I don't think he will have a hard time from Putin, now the beggar in the green t shirt may be tricky


Shut the war down and money

The guy in the green t shirt will be suicided by way of Putin
Russian mob took Russia way of feeding its people with the bread basket
Russia got back on its feet with high oil prices a few years ago and wanted their bread basket back
NATO. Decided to poke the bear and the bear poked back

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Think how fast this economy is gonna collapse when Trump closes the checkbook to little yoga pants. Sleepy was robbing Peter to pay paul, propping this fraudulent economy up on crutches. The problem is not all of the $$ was coming back to this country and libtards wouldn’t allow an audit.


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the west keeps breaking agreements and prodding Putin . When Gorbachev was president --- he agreed to move 400K troops away from that border as long as the West agreed to not adding any other country to Nato and to not move 1inch closer to Moscow . He knew this Russians would hate him for this agreement and ultimately would bring in a new Russian regime --- which was Putin. We are now 1200 miles closer to Moscow . We have essentially broken Minsk1 and Minsk2 agreements . Add to that the bombing of Russian speaking Ukrainians in the Dombas region by Ukraine itself . We keep kicking a dog that isn't going to back down .
Putin see's Biden as weak and feeble ---- he would have seen Harris exactly the same . He see's Trump completely different and most likely an agreement will be made and I believe Ukraine see the writing on the wall .

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Originally Posted by Jpurdue
Putin didn't invade Ukraine because of NATO. Virtually all the previous invasions from the west have been launched through the Baltic states or Poland which are already part of NATO.

Russia is vast, but only 7% of it is arable land fit for growing crops. 60% of Ukraine is arable. Plus, the strategic significance of Crimea and it's black seaports.

Putin invaded Ukraine because he saw weakness in the white house and thought he could waltz in and take it just like he took Crimea under Obamas watch. It's an attractive target with all the arable land, minerals, and strategically significant geography. His generals told him it would be easy. He's since sacrificed 700,000 men trying to save face.

Ukraine is a sovereign country. They have every right to defend themselves in any way shape or form they please. I don't blame them for begging for help and blasting the snot out of Moscow whenever they can.

We've honestly played the whole thing pretty well up to this point. We've accomplished our goal. We've destroyed Russia ability to conduct another ground war with minimal expense and no American lives. We've exposed Putin's military for what it is. Putin is no longer living under any illusions of what is military is. Mission accomplished. Time to get out and cheer for Ukraine from afar.


I actually agree with a lot of what you state....particularly the "weak leadership".....

BUT, don't think for a nanosecond that western NATO expansion (against previous promises NOT to do so) wasn't the straw that broke the camels back. The warhawks (really chicken lils) have been itching to stick the knife in the heart of what is left of the old Soviet Union, perhaps as badly as Putin wanted Crimea/Donbas/Ukraine. Just like Putin, "they" also wouldn't mind getting their hands on Ukranian natural resources....

Also, be careful about underestimating Russia's military capabilites.... and, before you ask, yes, I get their population limitations, etc etc etc.

One other thing, IMOP, these idiots are going to end up getting us in a world war if they're not careful (which won't END well for any of us). They've already forced an alignment of China/N Korea and Russia... who formally didn't care much for each other.... "the enemy of my enemy" etc.


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Originally Posted by 921 Phoenix
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You don't think Putin is a dictator? He's been in power for 20 plus years and any on his political rivals mysteriously fall out of windows or are poisoned. Literally one of the most evil leaders of any country.


well other than 20 years and the name putin, put clinton in there and what's the difference? lots of people sucided under clinton rule. I wonder what the real story is about JFK


totally agree --- Russia has a dictator that the Russian people love and Americans have " system " that is so broken that people can't see how insanely corrupt both parties have been . Democrats and Republicans have been playing political tribalism for decades with the sole goal being conquer and divide ---- not unity . Trump has the opportunity to unite both sides and get real chit done . Look at RFK , Gabbard , Musk , Shanahan --- hard line DEM's coming over to work on solving the top problems this country has and all of those problems have ben created by Government itself

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well other than 20 years and the name putin, put clinton in there and what's the difference? lots of people sucided under clinton rule. I wonder what the real story is about JFK


totally agree --- Russia has a dictator that the Russian people love and Americans have " system " that is so broken that people can't see how insanely corrupt both parties have been . Democrats and Republicans have been playing political tribalism for decades with the sole goal being conquer and divide ---- not unity . Trump has the opportunity to unite both sides and get real chit done . Look at RFK , Gabbard , Musk , Shanahan --- hard line DEM's coming over to work on solving the top problems this country has and all of those problems have ben created by Government itself


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Originally Posted by 1oldbassguy
Originally Posted by 921 Phoenix
Originally Posted by doctorb
You don't think Putin is a dictator? He's been in power for 20 plus years and any on his political rivals mysteriously fall out of windows or are poisoned. Literally one of the most evil leaders of any country.


well other than 20 years and the name putin, put clinton in there and what's the difference? lots of people sucided under clinton rule. I wonder what the real story is about JFK


totally agree --- Russia has a dictator that the Russian people love and Americans have " system " that is so broken that people can't see how insanely corrupt both parties have been . Democrats and Republicans have been playing political tribalism for decades with the sole goal being conquer and divide ---- not unity . Trump has the opportunity to unite both sides and get real chit done . Look at RFK , Gabbard , Musk , Shanahan --- hard line DEM's coming over to work on solving the top problems this country has and all of those problems have ben created by Government itself


Yep....👍 Isn't it ironic that so many times "government" creates a problem and then wants to ride in on the white stallion and fix it...rip into town in the ambulance... and.with inept bureaucrats at the wheel of the emergency vehicle...

Bureaucrats will rarely "solve" much of anything over the long haul... If they did they'd solve themselves right out of a job....


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I think it's well past time for Putin to fall out of one of those open windows

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Originally Posted by doctorb
I think it's well past time for Putin to fall out of one of those open windows



hehehe.... yes.... many millions that would volunteer to push... under the present circumstances I just ain't one of em... 😉


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Originally Posted by Jig Man
Putin started it...

Man such hard hitting deep thoughts.

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Originally Posted by doctorb
I think it's well past time for Putin to fall out of one of those open windows


the next one could be way worse.


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Russia's next leader may be better or worse than Putin, we don't know and it's out of our control. It's up to the Russian people as to whom they will and wont tolerate and they will have to live with the consequences. For now, that means sanctions and drone strikes.

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Originally Posted by grandbassslayer
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Putin started it...

Man such hard hitting deep thoughts.


Yep... grin


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You may be right about better or worse. But I think it's up to the Russian people only if they are willing to forcefully get Putin out. Elections won't do it as they are totally corrupt and staged. I think we could certainly assist getting someone in but I'm not sure who that would be at this point.

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folks keep in mind the Russian people for the most part like Putin and his way of doing things. They were behind the ukraine war.

They have been hungry and know that is where the food comes from. I think it would be make them mad if you just went in and tried to take over that country and un seat putin

the russian people are a proud people and don't mind fighting. They can take over if they really wanted to. Putin treats them like the demoRats treat people here

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Putin didn't invade Ukraine because of NATO. Virtually all the previous invasions from the west have been launched through the Baltic states or Poland which are already part of NATO.

Russia is vast, but only 7% of it is arable land fit for growing crops. 60% of Ukraine is arable. Plus, the strategic significance of Crimea and it's black seaports.

Putin invaded Ukraine because he saw weakness in the white house and thought he could waltz in and take it just like he took Crimea under Obamas watch. It's an attractive target with all the arable land, minerals, and strategically significant geography. His generals told him it would be easy. He's since sacrificed 700,000 men trying to save face.

Ukraine is a sovereign country. They have every right to defend themselves in any way shape or form they please. I don't blame them for begging for help and blasting the snot out of Moscow whenever they can.

We've honestly played the whole thing pretty well up to this point. We've accomplished our goal. We've destroyed Russia ability to conduct another ground war with minimal expense and no American lives. We've exposed Putin's military for what it is. Putin is no longer living under any illusions of what is military is. Mission accomplished. Time to get out and cheer for Ukraine from afar.

Your argument about the arable land is complete BS. Russias 7% = 300 million acres, where Ukranes 60% = 81 million acres.

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Putin didn't invade Ukraine because of NATO. Virtually all the previous invasions from the west have been launched through the Baltic states or Poland which are already part of NATO.

Russia is vast, but only 7% of it is arable land fit for growing crops. 60% of Ukraine is arable. Plus, the strategic significance of Crimea and it's black seaports.

Putin invaded Ukraine because he saw weakness in the white house and thought he could waltz in and take it just like he took Crimea under Obamas watch. It's an attractive target with all the arable land, minerals, and strategically significant geography. His generals told him it would be easy. He's since sacrificed 700,000 men trying to save face.

Ukraine is a sovereign country. They have every right to defend themselves in any way shape or form they please. I don't blame them for begging for help and blasting the snot out of Moscow whenever they can.

We've honestly played the whole thing pretty well up to this point. We've accomplished our goal. We've destroyed Russia ability to conduct another ground war with minimal expense and no American lives. We've exposed Putin's military for what it is. Putin is no longer living under any illusions of what is military is. Mission accomplished. Time to get out and cheer for Ukraine from afar.

Your argument about the arable land is complete BS. Russias 7% = 300 million acres, where Ukranes 60% = 81 million acres.


Right, and they have twice the land mass as the US, so if they added Ukraine, they would ALMOST as much arable land as us. Hence the desire. Not to mention Ukraine is where the demand is.


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Originally Posted by Bigbob_FTW
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I think it's well past time for Putin to fall out of one of those open windows


the next one could be way worse.


Yep.... "the dictator you know", etc.

In an age of nuclear proliferation deposing/destroying a dictator who owns some is nothing more than a fantasy. Putin will almost assuredly have to be defeated from within...


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Originally Posted by CCTX
I offer a trade of Jerry for Putin.


Lol.... The Russians would reject it.... If it were a referendum my bet is 100 to zip...


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Jerry would last about 5min as the GM of Russia. roflmao


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Originally Posted by CCTX
Jerry would last about 5min as the GM of Russia. roflmao


.... or a 7-11....😉


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Originally Posted by CCTX
Jerry would last about 5min as the GM of Russia. roflmao

Oh he’d make epic trade deals- heck he was probably GM of Russia when they traded us Alaska for a bottle of whiskey.

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Time for one last huge military aid package. And remove any restrictions the US has on using them against Russian targets.


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Originally Posted by Fishin' Nut
Time for one last huge military aid package. And remove any restrictions the US has on using them against Russian targets.


Have your fun now cause it's all about to stop

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Slava Ukraini. They should take out the transmission lines from the Kursk NPP when hard winter sets in.



Why you say Slava Ukraini? Are you from the Ukraine?


If I were from Ukraine, I would have typed Слава Украіні.


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Originally Posted by Fishin' Nut
Time for one last huge military aid package. And remove any restrictions the US has on using them against Russian targets.


The grift is over loser. The money train is over. Want to keeo fighting, send your kids.


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Originally Posted by Fishin' Nut
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Slava Ukraini. They should take out the transmission lines from the Kursk NPP when hard winter sets in.



Why you say Slava Ukraini? Are you from the Ukraine?


If I were from Ukraine, I would have typed Слава Украіні.


I wonder if you had this kind of support for Isreal?


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Jerry would last about 5min as the GM of Russia. roflmao

Oh he’d make epic trade deals- heck he was probably GM of Russia when they traded us Alaska for a bottle of whiskey.



Its was Vodka and to be fair, it was two of the big Vodkas and like $25.

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