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Re: Ukraine Drone Strike on Moscow
[Re: Jig Man]
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11/11/24 08:38 PM
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grandbassslayer
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Man such hard hitting deep thoughts.
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Re: Ukraine Drone Strike on Moscow
[Re: doctorb]
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11/11/24 08:59 PM
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Bigbob_FTW
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I think it's well past time for Putin to fall out of one of those open windows the next one could be way worse.
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Re: Ukraine Drone Strike on Moscow
[Re: RCarter]
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11/11/24 09:09 PM
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Gusick
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Russia's next leader may be better or worse than Putin, we don't know and it's out of our control. It's up to the Russian people as to whom they will and wont tolerate and they will have to live with the consequences. For now, that means sanctions and drone strikes.
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Re: Ukraine Drone Strike on Moscow
[Re: grandbassslayer]
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11/11/24 09:27 PM
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Jig Man
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Man such hard hitting deep thoughts. Yep...
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Re: Ukraine Drone Strike on Moscow
[Re: RCarter]
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11/11/24 09:30 PM
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doctorb
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You may be right about better or worse. But I think it's up to the Russian people only if they are willing to forcefully get Putin out. Elections won't do it as they are totally corrupt and staged. I think we could certainly assist getting someone in but I'm not sure who that would be at this point.
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Re: Ukraine Drone Strike on Moscow
[Re: RCarter]
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11/11/24 09:35 PM
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921 Phoenix
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folks keep in mind the Russian people for the most part like Putin and his way of doing things. They were behind the ukraine war.
They have been hungry and know that is where the food comes from. I think it would be make them mad if you just went in and tried to take over that country and un seat putin
the russian people are a proud people and don't mind fighting. They can take over if they really wanted to. Putin treats them like the demoRats treat people here
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Re: Ukraine Drone Strike on Moscow
[Re: Jpurdue]
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11/11/24 09:56 PM
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Oldrabbit
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Putin didn't invade Ukraine because of NATO. Virtually all the previous invasions from the west have been launched through the Baltic states or Poland which are already part of NATO.
Russia is vast, but only 7% of it is arable land fit for growing crops. 60% of Ukraine is arable. Plus, the strategic significance of Crimea and it's black seaports.
Putin invaded Ukraine because he saw weakness in the white house and thought he could waltz in and take it just like he took Crimea under Obamas watch. It's an attractive target with all the arable land, minerals, and strategically significant geography. His generals told him it would be easy. He's since sacrificed 700,000 men trying to save face.
Ukraine is a sovereign country. They have every right to defend themselves in any way shape or form they please. I don't blame them for begging for help and blasting the snot out of Moscow whenever they can.
We've honestly played the whole thing pretty well up to this point. We've accomplished our goal. We've destroyed Russia ability to conduct another ground war with minimal expense and no American lives. We've exposed Putin's military for what it is. Putin is no longer living under any illusions of what is military is. Mission accomplished. Time to get out and cheer for Ukraine from afar. Your argument about the arable land is complete BS. Russias 7% = 300 million acres, where Ukranes 60% = 81 million acres.
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Re: Ukraine Drone Strike on Moscow
[Re: Oldrabbit]
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11/11/24 10:03 PM
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Jpurdue
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Putin didn't invade Ukraine because of NATO. Virtually all the previous invasions from the west have been launched through the Baltic states or Poland which are already part of NATO.
Russia is vast, but only 7% of it is arable land fit for growing crops. 60% of Ukraine is arable. Plus, the strategic significance of Crimea and it's black seaports.
Putin invaded Ukraine because he saw weakness in the white house and thought he could waltz in and take it just like he took Crimea under Obamas watch. It's an attractive target with all the arable land, minerals, and strategically significant geography. His generals told him it would be easy. He's since sacrificed 700,000 men trying to save face.
Ukraine is a sovereign country. They have every right to defend themselves in any way shape or form they please. I don't blame them for begging for help and blasting the snot out of Moscow whenever they can.
We've honestly played the whole thing pretty well up to this point. We've accomplished our goal. We've destroyed Russia ability to conduct another ground war with minimal expense and no American lives. We've exposed Putin's military for what it is. Putin is no longer living under any illusions of what is military is. Mission accomplished. Time to get out and cheer for Ukraine from afar. Your argument about the arable land is complete BS. Russias 7% = 300 million acres, where Ukranes 60% = 81 million acres. Right, and they have twice the land mass as the US, so if they added Ukraine, they would ALMOST as much arable land as us. Hence the desire. Not to mention Ukraine is where the demand is.
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Re: Ukraine Drone Strike on Moscow
[Re: Bigbob_FTW]
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11/11/24 11:30 PM
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Slicefixer
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I think it's well past time for Putin to fall out of one of those open windows the next one could be way worse. Yep.... "the dictator you know", etc. In an age of nuclear proliferation deposing/destroying a dictator who owns some is nothing more than a fantasy. Putin will almost assuredly have to be defeated from within...
Gj
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Re: Ukraine Drone Strike on Moscow
[Re: RCarter]
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11/11/24 11:35 PM
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CCTX
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I offer a trade of Jerry for Putin.
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Re: Ukraine Drone Strike on Moscow
[Re: CCTX]
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11/11/24 11:37 PM
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Slicefixer
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I offer a trade of Jerry for Putin. Lol.... The Russians would reject it.... If it were a referendum my bet is 100 to zip...
Gj
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Re: Ukraine Drone Strike on Moscow
[Re: RCarter]
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11/12/24 12:06 AM
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CCTX
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Jerry would last about 5min as the GM of Russia.
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Re: Ukraine Drone Strike on Moscow
[Re: CCTX]
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11/12/24 12:40 AM
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Slicefixer
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Jerry would last about 5min as the GM of Russia. .... or a 7-11....๐
Gj
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Re: Ukraine Drone Strike on Moscow
[Re: CCTX]
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11/12/24 12:45 AM
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grandbassslayer
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Jerry would last about 5min as the GM of Russia. Oh heโd make epic trade deals- heck he was probably GM of Russia when they traded us Alaska for a bottle of whiskey.
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Re: Ukraine Drone Strike on Moscow
[Re: RCarter]
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11/12/24 01:08 AM
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