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Re: Drill Baby Drill
[Re: pchapin]
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11/09/24 12:43 AM
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You people are clueless if you think the oil industry is going to drill themselves into bankruptcy. They will always try to maximize profit. They never put low cost of fuel as a priority. The government does not have the power to make the industry over produce. your right but they will always make as much as they can. they have people who know about what the well will make and pay off before ever signing a lease. They get beat on dry holes but they are still in business for a reason and PChapin is correct
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Re: Drill Baby Drill
[Re: pchapin]
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11/09/24 12:54 AM
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You people are clueless if you think the oil industry is going to drill themselves into bankruptcy. They will always try to maximize profit. They never put low cost of fuel as a priority. The government does not have the power to make the industry over produce. Apparently you don’t know how the Presidential magic wand works……….. Yes that was sarcasm.
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Re: Drill Baby Drill
[Re: 921 Phoenix]
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11/09/24 12:56 AM
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B.K.S.
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There's been a lot of mergers and buy outs the past few years. With that said, when Exxon bought Pioneer resources that gave them a whole lot of lease acreage. I'd call that a safe play for sure.
Just drilling and producing crude is one thing, the real thing that would lower fuel costs would have the EPA release the permits for refineries to switch to shale oil, they're stuck having to refine heavy crude only.
We need the sour crude for things like jet fuel and diesel. It is also a cheaper raw material to start with. With that said we refine plenty of WTI as well. We have some of the most sophisticated refineries in the world. what do you do for a living? this makes no sense whatsoever. you realize sour gas takes a ton more equipment to move around and monitors and points to extract the sour gas. diesel and jet fuel comes from oil not sour gas. no such thing has sour crude the sour gas is a killer and just a small amount will kill you. oil is nothing more than fertilizer. The salt in the water/oil mixtures is what kills grass and poisons water and the ground. oil just makes it messy. oil if it coats some animals and birds it can keep them from flying. if you ever saw a oiled road bed it usually has grass growing in it. The areas with dead trees and grass is the saltwater. I worked for a pipeline company for 36 years, measurement not construction, Sour Crude is a real thing, low gravity and a little “dirtier” than sweet crude. And what are your credentials?
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Re: Drill Baby Drill
[Re: B.K.S.]
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11/09/24 01:03 AM
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Harleydude
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There's been a lot of mergers and buy outs the past few years. With that said, when Exxon bought Pioneer resources that gave them a whole lot of lease acreage. I'd call that a safe play for sure.
Just drilling and producing crude is one thing, the real thing that would lower fuel costs would have the EPA release the permits for refineries to switch to shale oil, they're stuck having to refine heavy crude only.
We need the sour crude for things like jet fuel and diesel. It is also a cheaper raw material to start with. With that said we refine plenty of WTI as well. We have some of the most sophisticated refineries in the world. what do you do for a living? this makes no sense whatsoever. you realize sour gas takes a ton more equipment to move around and monitors and points to extract the sour gas. diesel and jet fuel comes from oil not sour gas. no such thing has sour crude the sour gas is a killer and just a small amount will kill you. oil is nothing more than fertilizer. The salt in the water/oil mixtures is what kills grass and poisons water and the ground. oil just makes it messy. oil if it coats some animals and birds it can keep them from flying. if you ever saw a oiled road bed it usually has grass growing in it. The areas with dead trees and grass is the saltwater. I worked for a pipeline company for 36 years, measurement not construction, Sour Crude is a real thing, low gravity and a little “dirtier” than sweet crude. And what are your credentials? I should have said heavy crude instead of sour crude in my original comment. Sometimes that gets thrown around interchangeably by folks whether it is correct or not. Indeed it is a real thing as is H2S.
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Re: Drill Baby Drill
[Re: B.K.S.]
#15242001
11/09/24 01:13 AM
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There's been a lot of mergers and buy outs the past few years. With that said, when Exxon bought Pioneer resources that gave them a whole lot of lease acreage. I'd call that a safe play for sure.
Just drilling and producing crude is one thing, the real thing that would lower fuel costs would have the EPA release the permits for refineries to switch to shale oil, they're stuck having to refine heavy crude only.
We need the sour crude for things like jet fuel and diesel. It is also a cheaper raw material to start with. With that said we refine plenty of WTI as well. We have some of the most sophisticated refineries in the world. what do you do for a living? this makes no sense whatsoever. you realize sour gas takes a ton more equipment to move around and monitors and points to extract the sour gas. diesel and jet fuel comes from oil not sour gas. no such thing has sour crude the sour gas is a killer and just a small amount will kill you. oil is nothing more than fertilizer. The salt in the water/oil mixtures is what kills grass and poisons water and the ground. oil just makes it messy. oil if it coats some animals and birds it can keep them from flying. if you ever saw a oiled road bed it usually has grass growing in it. The areas with dead trees and grass is the saltwater. I worked for a pipeline company for 36 years, measurement not construction, Sour Crude is a real thing, low gravity and a little “dirtier” than sweet crude. And what are your credentials? LOL you worked on a pipe line measurements okie dokie LMAO I stayed in a holiday inn express last night. that's like saying I worked at a tire fixen shop so I must be a race car driver. LOL and I ain't sure East Texas even has any sour gas wells left. LMAO WOW you don't know the difference between heavy crude and sour gas wells or H2S wells which is where sour gas or crude as you say comes from. LOL pipeline man LMAO
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Re: Drill Baby Drill
[Re: T Bird]
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11/09/24 01:50 AM
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Harleydude
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He was in west Texas I believe and as we discussed in our PM sour crude and H2S are two different things. I’m pretty sure he would know what is running through those pipelines.
Last edited by Harleydude; 11/09/24 02:10 AM.
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Re: Drill Baby Drill
[Re: T Bird]
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11/09/24 02:50 AM
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B.K.S.
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I lived and worked in West Texas, worked around Sour Crude and West Texas Intermediate. There are also many other 3 letter terms for crude oil. You may have stayed in a Holiday Inn, but I know how it was built.
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Re: Drill Baby Drill
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11/09/24 03:07 AM
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Regardless of how much oil and refined fuel will or won't cost, it's a good thing for America, its people, the economy, and common sense to not have a cult member of the Church of Global Warming as President. Let "green" people and companies research, build, and sell whatever they want 24 hours per day, 365 days per year. Let people who want their products buy as many and as much as they want. Whenever it becomes better, more feasible, more convenient, more dependable, widely available, and at least as economical people will switch to it voluntarily. I will do so myself.
Until then, it is both destructive and ridiculous to force Americans to buy it.
The market will decide when it is time.
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Re: Drill Baby Drill
[Re: Razorback]
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11/09/24 03:34 AM
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Harleydude
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Regardless of how much oil and refined fuel will or won't cost, it's a good thing for America, its people, the economy, and common sense to not have a cult member of the Church of Global Warming as President. Let "green" people and companies research, build, and sell whatever they want 24 hours per day, 365 days per year. Let people who want their products buy as many and as much as they want. Whenever it becomes better, more feasible, more convenient, more dependable, widely available, and at least as economical people will switch to it voluntarily. I will do so myself.
Until then, it is both destructive and ridiculous to force Americans to buy it.
The market will decide when it is time. Amen!!!
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Re: Drill Baby Drill
[Re: B.K.S.]
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11/09/24 03:40 AM
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I lived and worked in West Texas, worked around Sour Crude and West Texas Intermediate. There are also many other 3 letter terms for crude oil. You may have stayed in a Holiday Inn, but I know how it was built. work around it LOL okie dokie if you did you would know H2S is what makes crude sour it comes from sulphur gas. LOL A measurement guy just measure production going through a pipeline. I pumped it out of the ground in arkansas texas and half the states in this country. I worked around it in south arkansas where some of the highest contents of H2S is. if you knew what it was you would know there is no difference it's all H2S gas or rotten eggs, is another slang term. mixed with oil or saltwater. I have worked with both. how many locations have you been on where it was in the air. What parts per million is dangerous. do you have to wear gas mask around this stuff. pipeliner LOL yea right. I have no doubt you may not have been a good hand but saying you know about sour crude. That is just slang for H2S there is heavy crude and light crude and it can have all kinds of gases mixed into it depending on formation and where you are pumping it. Texas is a big state and its different all over and different from there to oklahoma or ND or Wy. Different levels of gas. that is why they usually have to have two ment around tankers when they are cleaned out have hauling anything with H2S in it. The thickness of the oil is different even from different formation in same well and different gases in each formation and content of the gas. sour crude is nothing more then crude coming out of a sour gas well it can be both light and heavy.
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Re: Drill Baby Drill
[Re: T Bird]
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11/09/24 03:51 AM
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B.K.S.
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Can see talking to you is like talking to the worms we had in the patch, google it can be your friend. I saw plenty of folks just like you and the one thing they all had in common was they’re smarter than everyone in the room.
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Re: Drill Baby Drill
[Re: T Bird]
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11/09/24 03:53 AM
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sour crude or H2S crude is less desirable becasue it cost more to refine and more dangerous at higher concentration of H2S. The crude can be light or heavy most of the time it come out of heavy. I have seen lightweight coming out of south arkansas and in the bromine fields. that also have oil in them. The below is just a quick search of H2S crude and why no one really wants it because of how much it cost to refine it
Here are some characteristics of sour crude oil: Impurities: Sour crude oil contains a high amount of the impurity sulfur. Toxicity: Sour crude oil can be toxic and corrosive, especially when it contains high levels of hydrogen sulfide gas (H2S). Smell: At low concentrations, H2S gives the oil the smell of rotting eggs. Processing: Sour crude oil requires additional processing to remove contaminants, break down hydrocarbon compounds, and reduce H2S gas. Cost: Sour crude oil is generally less expensive than lighter, sweeter grades of crude oil. However, the cost of processing sour crude oil is higher, which results in higher-priced gasoline. Location: Some of the sourest crude can be found in Mexico, Venezuela, and Canada.
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Re: Drill Baby Drill
[Re: B.K.S.]
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11/09/24 03:55 AM
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Can see talking to you is like talking to the worms we had in the patch, google it can be your friend. I saw plenty of folks just like you and the one thing they all had in common was they’re smarter than everyone in the room. well since you didn't seem to know what you were talking about and I have actually work around it not just measured it then maybe show how you know what you are talking about. it called rotten eggs for a reason
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Re: Drill Baby Drill
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11/09/24 08:20 AM
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Please drill on my 40 acres in Panola county on the Haynesville shale‼️👍🏼‼️
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