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Re: Drill Baby Drill
[Re: 921 Phoenix]
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11/08/24 08:15 PM
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Allison1
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I wonder how much TX lost in power by shutting down the three over at Monticello,
and they should be put in jail for destroying a really good bass fishing lake. LOL We are talking nuclear and you are talking coal. Its not coming back. The decision to shut it down was the power company. Due to regulations, sure. reading comprehension lol you were talking about how much nuclear power TEXAS needs. I was only pointing out they shut down three big ones and never replaced them with other power plants to off set loss of available power nothing more and I didn't say anything about what kind of power. good gosh ally Fixed it to be accurate. I was talking about nuclear power and pointed out how much we had in comparison to the other sources. NOTE: I mentioned solar, wind and natural gas when showing how much power from nuclear that we could expand on. I did not mention coal because its just not going to make a comeback.
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Re: Drill Baby Drill
[Re: Allison1]
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11/08/24 08:23 PM
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I wonder how much TX lost in power by shutting down the three over at Monticello,
and they should be put in jail for destroying a really good bass fishing lake. LOL We are talking nuclear and you are talking coal. Its not coming back. The decision to shut it down was the power company. Due to regulations, sure. reading comprehension lol you were talking about how much nuclear power TEXAS needs. I was only pointing out they shut down three big ones and never replaced them with other power plants to off set loss of available power nothing more and I didn't say anything about what kind of power. good gosh ally Fixed it to be accurate. I was talking about nuclear power and pointed out how much we had in comparison to the other sources. NOTE: I mentioned solar, wind and natural gas when showing how much power from nuclear that we could expand on. I did not mention coal because its just not going to make a comeback. ok I will type slower this time. I WASN'T TALKING ABOUT ANYTHING BUT THEY SHUT DOWN THREE POWER PLANTS AND DIDN'T REPLACE THE POWER. you listed the amount of power needed to replace. I was just pointing out Tx like a lot have shut down coal power plants and never replaced them. That's it nothing more. I never said anything about coal just that three plants were shut down. I don't care if you start a dozen new plants that run off of BS you still haven't replaced the three plants they shut down so you don't have that power start up some with horse stuff I don't care
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Re: Drill Baby Drill
[Re: 921 Phoenix]
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11/08/24 08:29 PM
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Harleydude
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There's been a lot of mergers and buy outs the past few years. With that said, when Exxon bought Pioneer resources that gave them a whole lot of lease acreage. I'd call that a safe play for sure.
Just drilling and producing crude is one thing, the real thing that would lower fuel costs would have the EPA release the permits for refineries to switch to shale oil, they're stuck having to refine heavy crude only.
We need the sour crude for things like jet fuel and diesel. It is also a cheaper raw material to start with. With that said we refine plenty of WTI as well. We have some of the most sophisticated refineries in the world. what do you do for a living? this makes no sense whatsoever. you realize sour gas takes a ton more equipment to move around and monitors and points to extract the sour gas. diesel and jet fuel comes from oil not sour gas. no such thing has sour crude the sour gas is a killer and just a small amount will kill you. oil is nothing more than fertilizer. The salt in the water/oil mixtures is what kills grass and poisons water and the ground. oil just makes it messy. oil if it coats some animals and birds it can keep them from flying. if you ever saw a oiled road bed it usually has grass growing in it. The areas with dead trees and grass is the saltwater. I own oil and gas mineral interests on a ranch that gets produced. Been around oil companies since I was kid. I never said anything about gas. Heavy/Sour crude. Sour crude contains more sulfur. Refining is chemistry and certain end products require different inputs. I didn’t make up the term so here you go. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sour_crude_oil
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Re: Drill Baby Drill
[Re: 921 Phoenix]
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11/08/24 08:32 PM
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Allison1
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ok I will type slower this time.
I WASN'T TALKING ABOUT ANYTHING BUT THEY SHUT DOWN THREE POWER PLANTS AND DIDN'T REPLACE THE POWER. you listed the amount of power needed to replace. I was just pointing out Tx like a lot have shut down coal power plants and never replaced them. That's it nothing more. I never said anything about coal just that three plants were shut down. I don't care if you start a dozen new plants that run off of BS you still haven't replaced the three plants they shut down so you don't have that power
start up some with horse stuff I don't care They didn't replace them because they are getting rid of coal power plants. You know that. They aren't coming back and you don't replace something you are trying to get rid of. Thats why I didn't mention it and why I wondered why you did.
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Re: Drill Baby Drill
[Re: Allison1]
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11/08/24 08:39 PM
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ok I will type slower this time.
I WASN'T TALKING ABOUT ANYTHING BUT THEY SHUT DOWN THREE POWER PLANTS AND DIDN'T REPLACE THE POWER. you listed the amount of power needed to replace. I was just pointing out Tx like a lot have shut down coal power plants and never replaced them. That's it nothing more. I never said anything about coal just that three plants were shut down. I don't care if you start a dozen new plants that run off of BS you still haven't replaced the three plants they shut down so you don't have that power
start up some with horse stuff I don't care They didn't replace them because they are getting rid of coal power plants. You know that. They aren't coming back and you don't replace something you are trying to get rid of. Thats why I didn't mention it and why I wondered why you did. ok I can't type it any slower for you. I DID NOT SAY anything about coal. I said replace the pwoer lost. I don't care if you go take a poop and run it with that. TEXAS didn't replace the lost power. Why is that so hard for you to get so I guess what power plants were built to replace those three is a better way of getting through to you whether its with nuclear or not.
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Re: Drill Baby Drill
[Re: 921 Phoenix]
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11/08/24 08:55 PM
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Allison1
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ok I will type slower this time.
I WASN'T TALKING ABOUT ANYTHING BUT THEY SHUT DOWN THREE POWER PLANTS AND DIDN'T REPLACE THE POWER. you listed the amount of power needed to replace. I was just pointing out Tx like a lot have shut down coal power plants and never replaced them. That's it nothing more. I never said anything about coal just that three plants were shut down. I don't care if you start a dozen new plants that run off of BS you still haven't replaced the three plants they shut down so you don't have that power
start up some with horse stuff I don't care They didn't replace them because they are getting rid of coal power plants. You know that. They aren't coming back and you don't replace something you are trying to get rid of. Thats why I didn't mention it and why I wondered why you did. ok I can't type it any slower for you. I DID NOT SAY anything about coal. I said replace the pwoer lost. I don't care if you go take a poop and run it with that. TEXAS didn't replace the lost power. Why is that so hard for you to get so I guess what power plants were built to replace those three is a better way of getting through to you whether its with nuclear or not. I just did a quick look and our energy needs have grown, not dropped since Monticello shut down. Why do you believe we have not replaced the energy that Monticello produced? I'm pretty sure they took that into account when they shut it down and as you know, natural gas along with solar and wind have grown a lot since then.
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Re: Drill Baby Drill
[Re: Allison1]
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11/08/24 09:29 PM
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ok I will type slower this time.
I WASN'T TALKING ABOUT ANYTHING BUT THEY SHUT DOWN THREE POWER PLANTS AND DIDN'T REPLACE THE POWER. you listed the amount of power needed to replace. I was just pointing out Tx like a lot have shut down coal power plants and never replaced them. That's it nothing more. I never said anything about coal just that three plants were shut down. I don't care if you start a dozen new plants that run off of BS you still haven't replaced the three plants they shut down so you don't have that power
start up some with horse stuff I don't care They didn't replace them because they are getting rid of coal power plants. You know that. They aren't coming back and you don't replace something you are trying to get rid of. Thats why I didn't mention it and why I wondered why you did. ok I can't type it any slower for you. I DID NOT SAY anything about coal. I said replace the pwoer lost. I don't care if you go take a poop and run it with that. TEXAS didn't replace the lost power. Why is that so hard for you to get so I guess what power plants were built to replace those three is a better way of getting through to you whether its with nuclear or not. I just did a quick look and our energy needs have grown, not dropped since Monticello shut down. Why do you believe we have not replaced the energy that Monticello produced? I'm pretty sure they took that into account when they shut it down and as you know, natural gas along with solar and wind have grown a lot since then. I have no idea what you are trying to say here since I didn't say any of that. I didn't say anything about demand dropping. I mentioned the three because demand as not dropped but gone up with more people and so on. There is no evidence they replaced them and the ice storm a few years ago. that showed they didn't have the capability to keep up because they didn't replace the coal fired plants. the coal fired kept running during ice storms or summer time. That is about the only time they ran them any more was in peak demand. Texas is known for rolling blackout which is another way of showing they didn't replace them. They shut down most of the coal fired plants under obama which was absolutely idiotic if you hadn't built replacement before you shut them down which they didn't. but on that subject a lot of states have done the same thing which is stupid. Why would you get rid of power plants before replacing them. that is all about being able to charge more for power. Why would you get rid of oil and refineries before getting another way of fueling cars. with the clean coal out of wyoming and new technologies coal fired plants were about as clean as the gas you now fire a lot of them with. any way and its cheaper for lower energy cost. if you want to get rid of fossil fuel find but don't get rid of our energy before you do or make it so high the average perrson can't afford it anymore. that is all you have really done with the whole green energy deal is just move money from this industry to that one it didn't save the planet but if did help al gore and the green energy people to make a lot fo money over the fraud of global warming
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Re: Drill Baby Drill
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11/08/24 09:54 PM
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skeeterokc
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Is it smart to quit your job without having another one lined up? MMMMMMMMMMMMM
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Re: Drill Baby Drill
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11/08/24 10:39 PM
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Is it smart to quit your job without having another one lined up? MMMMMMMMMMMMM for liberals and green people the answer is yes for everyone else no
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Re: Drill Baby Drill
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11/08/24 10:44 PM
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SoonerDG
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Is it smart to quit your job without having another one lined up? MMMMMMMMMMMMM for liberals and green people the answer is yes for everyone else no Do true liberals have jobs?
"Life is a matter of luck and the odds of success are in no way enhanced by extreme caution." - Erich Topp, German U-boat Commander, 1943.
When in doubt, set the hook.
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Re: Drill Baby Drill
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11/08/24 10:48 PM
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reeltexan
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They do. Making life miserable for others.
"..The pleasantist angling is to see the fish Cut with her golden oars the silver stream, And greedily devour the treacherous bait. Bill Shakespeare
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Re: Drill Baby Drill
[Re: 921 Phoenix]
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11/08/24 11:52 PM
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Allison1
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Is it smart to quit your job without having another one lined up? MMMMMMMMMMMMM for liberals and green people the answer is yes for everyone else no Now you're saying ERCOT, all appointed by the governor are liberals. Plus the energy companies that asked to have the plant closed down. YOU COULD, but won't try to support your contentions with data or even showing them running around like chickens with their heads cut off when the plant closed. Fact is they had it planned and nothing bad happened as a result of it closing. There, you've dumped on Abbott and I've backed him up. Imagine that.
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Re: Drill Baby Drill
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11/09/24 12:00 AM
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JR Ewing Cliff Calvin Carl, is my favorite Carl Character.
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Re: Drill Baby Drill
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11/09/24 12:04 AM
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JR Ewing Cliff Calvin Carl, is my favorite Carl Character.
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Re: Drill Baby Drill
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11/09/24 12:08 AM
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You people are clueless if you think the oil industry is going to drill themselves into bankruptcy. They will always try to maximize profit. They never put low cost of fuel as a priority. The government does not have the power to make the industry over produce.
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