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Re: Entry fees gone for the Bass Elites
[Re: Chris B]
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11/01/24 12:11 AM
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skeeterboud
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These bass fisherman whining and moaning about how much they don't make is just nuts. I truly can't wait for the real world to awaken them. Of course EVERY SINGLE BASS FISHERMAN IN THIS COUNTRY WOULD LOVE TO JUST FISH AND SET THEIR OWN PAY. When I was younger, if I wanted to make more money, I looked for a new job. That is what most people do. I like guns and fishing stuffs, but I know Academy or BPS is not going to pay me 150k to hang out at the reel counter..
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Re: Entry fees gone for the Bass Elites
[Re: skeeterboud]
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11/01/24 01:34 AM
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MCIPinkie
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You're absolutely right, skeeterboud. Wal-Mart is hiring every day.
No entry fee. Payouts suck.
Don't know why you guys are doing all this Excel work. Don't mean squat.
How many of these guys actually pay the entry fee out of their pocket any way? I'm betting a lot of sponsors are liking this.
I ain't fishing BASS Elites. Doubt anyone posting is.
Clickbait !!
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Re: Entry fees gone for the Bass Elites
[Re: Chris B]
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11/01/24 02:04 AM
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grout-scout
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Milliken video should be legit, his last one on the sponsors was pretty sharp.
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Re: Entry fees gone for the Bass Elites
[Re: grout-scout]
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11/01/24 02:42 AM
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WAWI
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Milliken video should be legit, his last one on the sponsors was pretty sharp. He pretty much called it like it was
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Re: Entry fees gone for the Bass Elites
[Re: grout-scout]
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11/01/24 03:26 AM
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pchapin
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Milliken video should be legit, his last one on the sponsors was pretty sharp.
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Re: Entry fees gone for the Bass Elites
[Re: Chris B]
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11/01/24 04:03 AM
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Dan21XRS
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Who gets a free ride???... You've got to perform to make it in any profession... Quit whining and up your game...Dan
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Re: Entry fees gone for the Bass Elites
[Re: wabash2015]
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11/01/24 11:04 AM
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Fishspanker
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Furthermore, I think the anglers' biggest concern at this point may be maintaining the cash inflow from the sponsors they currently hold. I could definitely see company XYZ saying, "well, they don't have to pay entries anymore so we can decrease our monetary commitment to Joe Blow Angler and still get the same exposure." If that happens, then the anglers are really going to be taking it in the shorts. I would like to think the industry is tighter than that but at the end of the day it is about making money and cutting that expense inflates the bottom line. I'm honestly surprised companies today even sponsor tournament anglers. With the advent of social media, I think they'd be better off finding non-tournament anglers who are social media influencers. I'm a younger guy and can't name but a few of pros on the Elites circuit right now, but I could probably fire off 15-20 angling YouTubers who have a large following. I would think non tournament guys on social media have made it even harder for the tournament guys on sponsorship money. The game has changed. There may be more side jobs or side income. Lots of ways to make some $$$ in the off season. God forbid some may have to guide again. So far I have yet to see a current Elite think it’s better. Best way to fish it is have $$$ before you start or a wife that’s making a bunch.
Last edited by Fishspanker; 11/01/24 11:06 AM.
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Re: Entry fees gone for the Bass Elites
[Re: Chris B]
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11/01/24 12:12 PM
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beartrap
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professional fishing seems to be going through same thing as professional baseball and football went through back in 40's and 50's....even after games were being televised,players had to have jobs during off season because their income was so low....players went on strike to get owners to share the revenue....golfers,formed an association which shared revenue with players and limited the number of competitors.....not sure to what extent revenue is being shared but MLF appears to modeled after the PGA.... with the growth of high school and college bass tourneys plus FFS,it's going to be interesting to see where professional bass fishing is headed next few years...
Last edited by beartrap; 11/01/24 12:16 PM.
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Re: Entry fees gone for the Bass Elites
[Re: Chris B]
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11/01/24 12:19 PM
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SteezMacQueen
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I need to start B.A.S.S. F.U. Bass fishing union. I can start getting a bargaining agreement in place for the union anglers.
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Re: Entry fees gone for the Bass Elites
[Re: Chris B]
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11/01/24 01:19 PM
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WAWI
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Its seems like they could have reduced the entry to 2500. That would have kept 250k ish in pot to beef up the payouts for top 50 and still given the field a break. Of course they would not have gotten the attention from this but I'm not sure they are happy with the attention they are getting from this.
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Re: Entry fees gone for the Bass Elites
[Re: WAWI]
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11/01/24 01:25 PM
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Dale Gribble
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Milliken video should be legit, his last one on the sponsors was pretty sharp. He pretty much called it like it was Just watched it , a pretty stark and eye opening. My opinion is that BASS didn’t think this one through and once again stepped on their D Optics are that they take their guys for idiots Added thought , this is reminiscent of the previous owners that were idiots and lost half their field to FBD because of things like this.
Last edited by Dale Gribble; 11/01/24 01:30 PM.
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Re: Entry fees gone for the Bass Elites
[Re: WAWI]
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11/01/24 01:28 PM
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Dale Gribble
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Its seems like they could have reduced the entry to 2500. That would have kept 250k ish in pot to beef up the payouts for top 50 and still given the field a break. Of course they would not have gotten the attention from this but I'm not sure they are happy with the attention they are getting from this. This would have been a win PR wise , “ we can’t eliminate them guys but it’s a step in the right direction”
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Re: Entry fees gone for the Bass Elites
[Re: Chris B]
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11/01/24 01:49 PM
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grout-scout
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Ok, watched the Milli video. Here’s my thinking, any sponsorship money these guys get can now go straight into the “profit” category. Say they can get $50k from JoeBlowCorporation, they are already ahead. The winnings will pay for their gas, food, lodging, expenses.
And at the end of the day, they are the ones that decided to be “pro-fishermen”. They can go get suck a** jobs like the rest of us that offer retirement, health insurance and a constant marginal paycheck.
Edit: I agree with WAWI, they should have just lowered the entry fees and it would have been called a win.
And for the love of God, stop buying new over priced boats every single year. Learn what a budget is.
Last edited by grout-scout; 11/01/24 01:52 PM.
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Re: Entry fees gone for the Bass Elites
[Re: Chris B]
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11/01/24 01:52 PM
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HDVS
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Why not just cut the entry's in half and keep the same payout or maybe even a little better! I think everyone would have been happy with that! And that would be working in the right direction. Someone should step in and do a $2500 side pot for the anglers! lol
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Re: Entry fees gone for the Bass Elites
[Re: Chris B]
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11/01/24 02:22 PM
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GMTK
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Everyone remembers BASS is a for-profit company right? It's a business and they want to make money. Cutting entry fees takes away $4,635,000 in income to BASS. I highly doubt they could have cut entry fees and kept payouts the same. But their parent company is also private so they don't have to disclose financials. https://www.andersonmediacorp.com/our-companies
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