Comparing images. This is upper-end of Saline Bay. You are looking at a Idle-Only(red) trail and navigates deeper water.

Comparing images:
This is in HighSaw which has Caution(Yellow) trail from 155-bridge, then a Idle-Only(Red) trail thru hazard area with hazard waypoints, then another Caution(Yellow) trail on into HighSaw.

Comparing images:
This is the Big-Pipeline trail, not a roadbed. Zoom in, you can observe trail is in middle of pipeline. So the shallow spot on the hump is in the trees. And the hump is marked with a Warning waypoint.

Mayne never released a waypoint only Guidelanes version.

What units do you run? You have waypoint icons instead of actual trails/tracks, so I'll guess HB Helix?

Let me tell you what, RKT, this isn't 2004 but 2024. It is unnecessary to NOT include vital information. LIKE WAY POINTS to show "areas" of danger. There is NO denying what i showed above. Yes some idiot will run smooth over that area. But lets not go too extreme, I went to Palestine this past weekend for the first time. I knew those really shallow areas were off limits, but the area below, hell it is a land mind. Tom's trail takes you over dozens of massive trees. I planned on idling and following the "TRAILS" and glad you locals know the path, but you are selling a product that needs details added. Littlegazoo may not have made these trails, but there is no answer for not simply adding freaking way points that you are on your own. OR like lake fork, to show a safe water level. If they are run lanes or idle ONLY. But I have used his Toledo Bend trail and found trees right in the path. Again in 2004, you were on your own. But when waters get low this is the time to make the most out of your trails. Again to RTK, to try and justify the east to west trail in the image above is a joke. I know how these trails are made and I know images from Google Earth can be skewed, but on the tree line for and 1/8 of a mile is crazy. The image isn't off 100 feet. If I had a john boat with SI, i would prove my point.
With the lake down 1.5, I wouldn't suggest anyone that doesn't know that lake to run above the bridge. Because you are a pro, all to you, but these products will be used for hs kids tournament. I don't want them hurt or killed. No you cannot cover everything, but they for dang sure need to be updated. Good thing is, Littlegazoo doesn't have a patent on these trails. Well, to tell you the truth, there really isn't and copy rights either. Maybe time to start selling the AWESOME trails with added information to help others.

Or, get off your azz and stop telling people you been on computers since 72, because that was no computer, and do some updates! Get to work and always work to improve the great item you provide. Stop trying to slam those that are just trying to point out the obvious. Littlegazoo, stop make trails on google earth!

In the image below, I idled from the bridge to the X, that was the last straw! I had planted my boat on two trees and hit 4 others.

Hold on a minute, your image is different than mine. I did zoom in jack hole. Your lane goes over the black circle on the island and mine is south of there. How in the heck is this possible? Did something change? Did some lanes get scrubed? our waypoint looks to be the same from the image, but my trail looks clearly lower than yours!!!

Sabre - I have ran all over the north end of that lake using those trails and I have never hit a stump while following them. You have something wrong. As far as high school kids using them - They had the state tournament there last year and kids and captains ran all over that lake using those trails and no one ever had a problem with them. Considering your trade is being a manager in a computer department I would figure you could do as good as the high school kids when loading and following the trails. I have loaded these trails onto my computer and looked at them on google earth and they lined up perfect - and I am almost illiterate with computers. It's wierd that you seem to be the only person who has had a problem out of tons of these trails sold.

Do you have the pro lanes? Did you read the instructions when you bought the lanes? If you read the instructions you would have seen that there are different colored lanes for running, danger areas, and idling. Did you load it wrong and make all the lanes the same color?

If you knew how those lanes were made then you would have known the first step was Tom running those lanes in his boat and recording them.

Sabre- you said you idled that area from the 315 bridge and hit two trees. Do you realize that is a red trail and is idle only. The reason idle only trails are idle only is because there are a lot of obstructions along them. Are your idle trails showing red? Did you read the instructions that state "Red - idle at full pool". You yourself said the lake is low.

By the way - I am not a local. I think I live farther away from that lake than you.

RKT, you're like a fart in the wind, when it goes by your like WTH!!!! done with you, you have no idea you cheerleader.

Back on topic, Littlegazoo, I have more questions, I put the trail line in Google earth, you can see mine is about 60 feet off of yours. Maybe we can have a talk to discuss what I am seeing versus having RTK flashing his palm palms. As for the area where I hit the trees, yes you flake I was idling and in fact I use my mercury monitor to turn the idle to the lowest setting. The fact that RKT wants to suggest that you should color your line and should've been idling is NOT the answer. Given that answer you would suggest one needs to idle while bouncing over rocks. NO, you create the best path possible OR NONE AT ALL. I don't speak red neck reta..ism. There is room for improvement, denial is like living in Kamala's world.

Sabre-You have my contact info, you could have contacted me, I have excellent customer service. Just ask around...

The issue is most likely Humminbird PC. It is on your end...These trails are built to display accurate on the units, however, these software managing programs like HBC can in fact alter things when overlaying on GE especially. I think they have not updated that system in years. You see those two bogus trails (created by Humminbird PC) on that pipeline going NE/SW you have on your last image? Those two trails are not even part of the trails and I know for a FACT you did not make them in your boat on your Helix.......I have verified the trails over and over and over for the last 7 years they have been out and the 30 years prior...There is no way in heck I would stand behind Google Earth imaging solely for these. The majority of these trails were made off the units using MY knowledge of the lake..I explained that to your coworker recently....

Theses trails you have are called "PRO" trails for a reason and that is why there are release notes and a legend showing how to edit your line style and color to show the different colored trails for different danger levels including the red idle only trail to be used ONLT AT FULL POOL. Everyone demanded them for the areas I put red trails. They are the best path....No they are not running trails, never were intended to be....

Regardless of how confident I am in where my trails are located, I still take the time to try and help people if there is any type of issue regardless. In your case, I took a Helix unit and confirmed they are dead on.. All of my trails are accurate on the unit unless they are altered somehow.

I will say this, nothing is ignored, so next time try contacting the seller first.

I am going to attempt to take the "high road" here and lay this issue of Guidelanes accuracy to rest. Sabre-22 is beating the wrong horse.
Guidelanes is accurate. Humminbird interface with Google Earth is the culprit.

Sabre-22 states the inaccuracy of Google Earth to build Guidelanes. The main use of GE is to "eliminate lake areas " where trails "CANNOT BE LAID".
Then for a preliminary path, the path is idled with a Lowrance trail and waypoint "bread-crumbs" made. Then repeat, repeat, etc.

#1: THE BIG PIPELINE
This is the true path of the track with the track and a waypoint in the middle of the Big Pipeline.


Compare the above with these Snapshots taken from a HELIX unit. The HELIX unit track and waypoint are accurate.




Sabre-22 used HumminbirdPC HT and GPX data which creates "inaccurate tracks".




#2: SALINE BAY
This is the true path of the track with the red track following in a creek.


Compare the above with these Snapshots taken from a HELIX unit. The HELIX unit track and waypoint are accurate.


Sabre-22 posted an inaccurate track again:


Sabre-22 failed in both cases to compare the HELIX Guidelane tracks against the Google Earth tracks he posted.

Damn, Sabre's Saline Bay inaccurate track even cut across dry land! COMPARE AND VERIFY FIRST BEFORE ALL THIS GARBAGE.
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So how does this happen. Well, HBPC does not interface properly with Google Earth with tracks with multiple track-segments. Humminbird waypoints are handled correct.
HELIX units only allow 50 tracks and Guidelanes needs more than that, so track-segmenting must be used. Lowrance is excellent.

HELIX and SOLIX units support track-segmenting. But HBPC not so much. HBPC can create and maintain track-segmenting "somewhat". HBPC has some quirky bugs with it. One HBPC bug is that displaying track-segmenting to GE will have all end-points connected creating what I refer to as a spaghetti bowl. ANOTHER IS THE TRACK-POINTS ARE OFFSET which Sabre-22 failed to see.

So Sabre-22's "PROBLEM" is not Guidelanes.

Sabre-22's "PROBLEM" is with Humminbird and Google Earth. Good luck with them.

Boater Safety always has and will be a concern.
AND NO, I do not want to talk, pm or cross "paths" with you again.