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Re: Life At A Car Dealership.....
[Re: Brian Spagnola]
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10/30/24 08:11 PM
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Grasshopperglock
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You make the money off of friends and family.
Remember, there's business and then there's the other things. I almost got my sister in law to eat a serious deal. $7500 over buy price. Used Chevy duelly. But her credit was thinner then the hairs on her chin.
One that got away.
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Re: Life At A Car Dealership.....
[Re: Brian Spagnola]
#15231636
10/30/24 08:34 PM
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grandbassslayer
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It’s just a transaction- but dealers try and make it an experience- and frankly people just want to buy a car and get out of there. I wish the manufacturers would just institute deals that make the dealers operate like carmax does. No gimicks just pay this price and move on down the road.
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Re: Life At A Car Dealership.....
[Re: Brian Spagnola]
#15231809
10/30/24 10:52 PM
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SteezMacQueen
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My only really bad experience buying a vehicle was with my Ford Lightning. I’ll preface this story by letting yall know I don’t dress in Ralph Lauren, nice shoes, whatever. I wear cheap shorts and t shirts. Always have and always will. I look like I don’t have a lot to piss in most of the time. So….on the way home one day I saw a brand new 1993 Ford Lightning on a raised display in front of the dealership. I really thought it looked cool, so I turned around and stopped to look at it. A salesman came walking up….he was sizing me up, thinking I didn’t have $20 in my pocket. I said “how much is this? It looks bad [censored]!” He said “for you, today, $18,995”. He figure I couldn’t buy a candy bar and was safe with his remark. I left the dealership, went to my bank, got the $18,995 plus extra for TT&L. Went back to buy the truck. He said it was $27,000. Not $18,995. So, me being me, I flew off the handle. I wanted to talk to Doug Stanley himself. He was a little nicer, but insisted that $18,995 would t buy that truck. I had my lawyer write them a letter, explaining the tactics that they used and what some of the outcomes were that were filed with the state of Texas on similar cases. It took a few months, but…I got the truck for what they said…$18,995. They told me to take the truck and shove it up my [censored]. I said I will take the truck and they will never see another dime from me. A couple months later, I had a dealership in Waxahachie dealer trade for a Thunderbird Supercoupe. I made sure that the dealer found out that I bought the TBird for my wife…through another dealership. I paid WAY more for it than the Lightning.
On another car deal…..I was buying my wife a 92 Mustang GT. We were on the fence about whether she’d like it or not the dealership told us to take the car home for the weekend, come back Monday and buy it, or not. We decided against the car because it was just not what she wanted at the time. She had a Ford Taurus SHO that she inherited from her mom and dad when she went to college. Well….over the course of the weekend, they sold the Taurus…even though it wasn’t theirs to sell….not yet. We hadn’t signed anything. Well….they gave her a new Taurus to take home. No charge. It was brand new. The other was a few years old and had 60,000 miles +.
I’ve only had one finance guy try to get me to buy added warranty. I told him if the factory warranty wasn’t enough, then I should look at a different make and model. Ended that sales pitch pretty quick.
Eat. Sleep. Fish.
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Re: Life At A Car Dealership.....
[Re: Grasshopperglock]
#15231897
10/31/24 12:06 AM
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skeeterokc
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You make the money off of friends and family.
Remember, there's business and then there's the other things. I almost got my sister in law to eat a serious deal. $7500 over buy price. Used Chevy duelly. But her credit was thinner then the hairs on her chin.
One that got away. That is sick and disgusting, you are a worthless person.
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Re: Life At A Car Dealership.....
[Re: skeeterokc]
#15231909
10/31/24 12:14 AM
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tmd11111
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You make the money off of friends and family.
Remember, there's business and then there's the other things. I almost got my sister in law to eat a serious deal. $7500 over buy price. Used Chevy duelly. But her credit was thinner then the hairs on her chin.
One that got away. That is sick and disgusting, you are a worthless person. If you can’t high gross family who can ya
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Re: Life At A Car Dealership.....
[Re: skeeterokc]
#15231911
10/31/24 12:16 AM
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Ghost4BH
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You make the money off of friends and family.
Remember, there's business and then there's the other things. I almost got my sister in law to eat a serious deal. $7500 over buy price. Used Chevy duelly. But her credit was thinner then the hairs on her chin.
One that got away. That is sick and disgusting, you are a worthless person. Maybe he’ll tell us more stories of “buying someone’s burned up property” after a fire.
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Re: Life At A Car Dealership.....
[Re: Brian Spagnola]
#15231948
10/31/24 12:42 AM
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Joined: Nov 2015
Posts: 1,436
RedEar12
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Had a couple come in on a Sat to buy a new VTX 1300. Guy wanted it and wife didn't. He made the money, problem was she had the credit. We closed at 2 on Sat. They sit out in the parking lot arguing for 3 hours. Finally she agrees to finance it for him a hour after close. He gets on the bike to drive it home and drops it in the parking lot. Now she is livid. We get a call from her the following Tuesday that she needs to bring the bike back, because of all things her husband has died. To make a long story short, I smell a rat and call her small town funeral home and police and ask if this man is dead. I get no, he if fine and well. We wind up taking the bike back, less the damage to the bike from dropping it and 1k as we had already been funded and registered the bike with the State.
Once I had a F&I employee not collect a $3000 down pymt. No way our employee is gonna pay us that back, so I called the customer about said monies. He said he paid it, I knew our guy didn't steal this money, he was just in a hurry and didn't collect it. I call the customer and tell him that he forgot to give us his down payment and he says that he did pay it. I tell him we have it all on CCTV and it shows he never paid it. He suddenly says you know you are right. I drive 2 hours to Louisiana to collect it. The kicker is that our cameras were down and I didn't have anything. If he said he had paid, we would have eaten it. Good times at a dealership.
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Re: Life At A Car Dealership.....
[Re: SteezMacQueen]
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10/31/24 01:34 AM
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grandbassslayer
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My only really bad experience buying a vehicle was with my Ford Lightning. I’ll preface this story by letting yall know I don’t dress in Ralph Lauren, nice shoes, whatever. I wear cheap shorts and t shirts. Always have and always will. I look like I don’t have a lot to piss in most of the time. So….on the way home one day I saw a brand new 1993 Ford Lightning on a raised display in front of the dealership. I really thought it looked cool, so I turned around and stopped to look at it. A salesman came walking up….he was sizing me up, thinking I didn’t have $20 in my pocket. I said “how much is this? It looks bad [censored]!” He said “for you, today, $18,995”. He figure I couldn’t buy a candy bar and was safe with his remark. I left the dealership, went to my bank, got the $18,995 plus extra for TT&L. Went back to buy the truck. He said it was $27,000. Not $18,995. So, me being me, I flew off the handle. I wanted to talk to Doug Stanley himself. He was a little nicer, but insisted that $18,995 would t buy that truck. I had my lawyer write them a letter, explaining the tactics that they used and what some of the outcomes were that were filed with the state of Texas on similar cases. It took a few months, but…I got the truck for what they said…$18,995. They told me to take the truck and shove it up my [censored]. I said I will take the truck and they will never see another dime from me. A couple months later, I had a dealership in Waxahachie dealer trade for a Thunderbird Supercoupe. I made sure that the dealer found out that I bought the TBird for my wife…through another dealership. I paid WAY more for it than the Lightning.
On another car deal…..I was buying my wife a 92 Mustang GT. We were on the fence about whether she’d like it or not the dealership told us to take the car home for the weekend, come back Monday and buy it, or not. We decided against the car because it was just not what she wanted at the time. She had a Ford Taurus SHO that she inherited from her mom and dad when she went to college. Well….over the course of the weekend, they sold the Taurus…even though it wasn’t theirs to sell….not yet. We hadn’t signed anything. Well….they gave her a new Taurus to take home. No charge. It was brand new. The other was a few years old and had 60,000 miles +.
I’ve only had one finance guy try to get me to buy added warranty. I told him if the factory warranty wasn’t enough, then I should look at a different make and model. Ended that sales pitch pretty quick. I had the finance guy at Toyota try and sell me the extended warranty- his sales pitch was “the new Toyotas aren’t as good as the old ones” I told him he needed a new pitch..
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Re: Life At A Car Dealership.....
[Re: grandbassslayer]
#15231989
10/31/24 01:38 AM
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Brent S
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My only really bad experience buying a vehicle was with my Ford Lightning. I’ll preface this story by letting yall know I don’t dress in Ralph Lauren, nice shoes, whatever. I wear cheap shorts and t shirts. Always have and always will. I look like I don’t have a lot to piss in most of the time. So….on the way home one day I saw a brand new 1993 Ford Lightning on a raised display in front of the dealership. I really thought it looked cool, so I turned around and stopped to look at it. A salesman came walking up….he was sizing me up, thinking I didn’t have $20 in my pocket. I said “how much is this? It looks bad [censored]!” He said “for you, today, $18,995”. He figure I couldn’t buy a candy bar and was safe with his remark. I left the dealership, went to my bank, got the $18,995 plus extra for TT&L. Went back to buy the truck. He said it was $27,000. Not $18,995. So, me being me, I flew off the handle. I wanted to talk to Doug Stanley himself. He was a little nicer, but insisted that $18,995 would t buy that truck. I had my lawyer write them a letter, explaining the tactics that they used and what some of the outcomes were that were filed with the state of Texas on similar cases. It took a few months, but…I got the truck for what they said…$18,995. They told me to take the truck and shove it up my [censored]. I said I will take the truck and they will never see another dime from me. A couple months later, I had a dealership in Waxahachie dealer trade for a Thunderbird Supercoupe. I made sure that the dealer found out that I bought the TBird for my wife…through another dealership. I paid WAY more for it than the Lightning.
On another car deal…..I was buying my wife a 92 Mustang GT. We were on the fence about whether she’d like it or not the dealership told us to take the car home for the weekend, come back Monday and buy it, or not. We decided against the car because it was just not what she wanted at the time. She had a Ford Taurus SHO that she inherited from her mom and dad when she went to college. Well….over the course of the weekend, they sold the Taurus…even though it wasn’t theirs to sell….not yet. We hadn’t signed anything. Well….they gave her a new Taurus to take home. No charge. It was brand new. The other was a few years old and had 60,000 miles +.
I’ve only had one finance guy try to get me to buy added warranty. I told him if the factory warranty wasn’t enough, then I should look at a different make and model. Ended that sales pitch pretty quick. I had the finance guy at Toyota try and sell me the extended warranty- his sales pitch was “the new Toyotas aren’t as good as the old ones” I told him he needed a new pitch..
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Re: Life At A Car Dealership.....
[Re: RedEar12]
#15231993
10/31/24 01:45 AM
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BassFever
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Had a couple come in on a Sat to buy a new VTX 1300. Guy wanted it and wife didn't. He made the money, problem was she had the credit. We closed at 2 on Sat. They sit out in the parking lot arguing for 3 hours. Finally she agrees to finance it for him a hour after close. He gets on the bike to drive it home and drops it in the parking lot. Now she is livid. We get a call from her the following Tuesday that she needs to bring the bike back, because of all things her husband has died. To make a long story short, I smell a rat and call her small town funeral home and police and ask if this man is dead. I get no, he if fine and well. We wind up taking the bike back, less the damage to the bike from dropping it and 1k as we had already been funded and registered the bike with the State.
Once I had a F&I employee not collect a $3000 down pymt. No way our employee is gonna pay us that back, so I called the customer about said monies. He said he paid it, I knew our guy didn't steal this money, he was just in a hurry and didn't collect it. I call the customer and tell him that he forgot to give us his down payment and he says that he did pay it. I tell him we have it all on CCTV and it shows he never paid it. He suddenly says you know you are right. I drive 2 hours to Louisiana to collect it. The kicker is that our cameras were down and I didn't have anything. If he said he had paid, we would have eaten it. Good times at a dealership. I owned a VTX1800, best bike I've ever owned.
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Re: Life At A Car Dealership.....
[Re: grandbassslayer]
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10/31/24 02:25 AM
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LoneStarSon
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It’s just a transaction- but dealers try and make it an experience- and frankly people just want to buy a car and get out of there. I wish the manufacturers would just institute deals that make the dealers operate like carmax does. No gimicks just pay this price and move on down the road. That was Saturn...and some people really liked it and others just really like the negotiation dance, even if they won't admit it.
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Re: Life At A Car Dealership.....
[Re: Brian Spagnola]
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10/31/24 03:14 AM
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BassFever
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I've never bought from Brian but he's helped me in other ways and I know for a fact several on here have bought from him and he's stood behind his cars/trucks. I have bought 3 trucks from Monte at Moritz Chevy and can attest they are straight shooters with ZERO BS.
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Re: Life At A Car Dealership.....
[Re: BassFever]
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10/31/24 04:10 AM
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Flyfisherman
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I've never bought from Brian but he's helped me in other ways and I know for a fact several on here have bought from him and he's stood behind his cars/trucks. I have bought 3 trucks from Monte at Moritz Chevy and can attest they are straight shooters with ZERO BS. I've sold three cars to Brian over the years. I got a very fair deal each time. Hell of a guy.
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Re: Life At A Car Dealership.....
[Re: Brian Spagnola]
#15232102
10/31/24 05:33 AM
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lconn4
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best way to get back on your feet is to miss a payment
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Re: Life At A Car Dealership.....
[Re: Brian Spagnola]
#15232127
10/31/24 10:56 AM
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ShinerInTx
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Car buying is a painful experience because of all the bs tactics. A few i've experienced as a buyer:
There's the "let me see your car keys so we can appraise for your trade in value". Lesson learned, never give your car keys up unless the rest of the deal is already worked out. Because, mysteriously they cant find your car keys for you to leave until a sales manager comes to talk you.
There's the "How much do you want your monthly payment to be?" sales pitch. What the hell are you talking about. Dont worry about how much im going to put down, how much im financing, or how much my monthly payment will be. Especially before ive even decided if i want to buy a car. I'll let you know those things, and if ill consider your financing when we agree on an out the door price.
And not all dealerships, but ive been to a few, especially pre-covid where you'd think the sales people got all their training from Goodfellas. 5 sales guys standing out front as soon as you pull up. Every one of them, hair slicked back, cheap suit, 5 oclock shadow.
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