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Re: Entry fees gone for the Bass Elites
[Re: Chris B]
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10/30/24 04:53 PM
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Re: Entry fees gone for the Bass Elites
[Re: Chris B]
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10/30/24 04:54 PM
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B.K.S.
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Someone needs to check on beartrap
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Re: Entry fees gone for the Bass Elites
[Re: Chris B]
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10/30/24 04:56 PM
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Mark Perry
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Its definitely a body blow to BPT/MLF. They will have to have an answer. It also just made the 2025 Opens the biggest thing going. I am willing to bet some current(qualified via points) BPT pros now fish the Opens.
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Re: Entry fees gone for the Bass Elites
[Re: Mark Perry]
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10/30/24 04:59 PM
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Monty Wright
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Its definitely a ody blow to BPT/MLF. They will have to have an answer. It also just made the 2025 Opens the biggest thing going. I am willing to bet some current(qualified via points) BPT pros now fish the Opens. Ryan Salzman has already posted on Instagram that heโs turned down his BPT invitation and will fish the Opens in 2025. I bet there are more coming.
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Re: Entry fees gone for the Bass Elites
[Re: Chris B]
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10/30/24 05:25 PM
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its the way it should be winners get the money the bottom feeders get a ribbon for being a participant.
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Re: Entry fees gone for the Bass Elites
[Re: Walls]
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10/30/24 05:27 PM
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Bottom dwellers will make nothing, or next to nothing on this model, but I believe that is the way it should be. Kudos to BASS for finally doing the right thing. Were the bottom half making more in payouts than they were paying in entry fees to begin with? Honest question, I really don't know. Seems like this move would be less stressful than starting the season $40,000 in the hole.
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Re: Entry fees gone for the Bass Elites
[Re: Chris B]
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10/30/24 05:41 PM
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Mark Jones
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Likely won't be a net gain to the payouts and is 100% an optics move. I haven't looked at the payouts but rest assured it likely involved a shell game that removed funds from somewhere and this isn't a "net" add to the angler base. Regardless, BASS and the sport needed a compelling press release after a dismal 2024 in professional angling and so it checks that box.
Last edited by Mark Jones; 10/30/24 05:42 PM.
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Re: Entry fees gone for the Bass Elites
[Re: sprigsss]
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10/30/24 05:52 PM
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Walls
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Bottom dwellers will make nothing, or next to nothing on this model, but I believe that is the way it should be. Kudos to BASS for finally doing the right thing. Were the bottom half making more in payouts than they were paying in entry fees to begin with? Honest question, I really don't know. Seems like this move would be less stressful than starting the season $40,000 in the hole. Historically, anglers voted to pay further down the field for the opportunity to earn a check. For example, 51st through 75th place were receiving checks, but those checks were less than their entry fees. Another odd statistic: Under the previous structure, 11th place and 50th place were receiving the same payout. Now, that is not the case. For 2025, the payouts will be graduated down the field. The Top 10 will net the same winnings as before, with first place continuing to receive $100,000. For those placing between 11th and 18th, the earnings realized is actually better. The new payout structure will continue down to 40th place, which will be the new Day 3 cutline for the Elites.
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Re: Entry fees gone for the Bass Elites
[Re: Chris B]
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10/30/24 05:53 PM
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Payouts, per BASS, are going to plummet.
For example (and I'm basing this off the Toledo Bend results): 2024 2025 5th $20,000 $15,000 11th $10,000 $7,000 20th $10,000 $4500 40th $10,000 $500 75th $2500 $0
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Re: Entry fees gone for the Bass Elites
[Re: GMTK]
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10/30/24 05:54 PM
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Mark Perry
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Payouts, per BASS, are going to plummet.
For example (and I'm basing this off the Toledo Bend results): 2024 2025 5th $20,000 $15,000 11th $10,000 $7,000 20th $10,000 $4500 40th $10,000 $500 75th $2500 $0 Is coming in 40th in a 100 boat tournament really worthy of a $10,000 check? It seems BASS is going towards a more performance based model.
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Re: Entry fees gone for the Bass Elites
[Re: Chris B]
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10/30/24 06:03 PM
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I'm not debating what is, or is not appropriate for a professional fishing tournament payout. Just pointing out that while there are no longer entry fees, the payouts have gone way down. So I'm not sure if the trade-off is worth it - that would be a question for the Elite anglers.
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Re: Entry fees gone for the Bass Elites
[Re: GMTK]
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10/30/24 06:15 PM
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Mark Jones
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I'm not debating what is, or is not appropriate for a professional fishing tournament payout. Just pointing out that while there are no longer entry fees, the payouts have gone way down. So I'm not sure if the trade-off is worth it - that would be a question for the Elite anglers.
In the past when these things have come up, most have voted to keep the entry fees because it creates a better payout possibility and at the end of the day, they are gamblers...
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Re: Entry fees gone for the Bass Elites
[Re: Chris B]
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10/30/24 06:30 PM
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TxBazzn
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Correct me if I'm wrong but from my perspective, 51st through 75th place just doubled their money simply by eliminating the entry fee. Instead of losing $2500 (Winnings - Entry) they now lose $0. In no way should 11th & 50th place make the same check so I'm happy they have switched it. Only 10 places now lose money from last year's payouts, 41st -50th place. Instead of making $5k they walk away even (Winnings - Entry fee). This is a big win for the Anglers. They are now Professional Anglers instead of Gambling Addicts.
*Speaking only about entry fees and payouts, not expenses.
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Re: Entry fees gone for the Bass Elites
[Re: Chris B]
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10/30/24 06:45 PM
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How much for Elite entry fees for the 2024 season for the Elite's?
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