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 Re: Entry fees gone for the Bass Elites
[Re: Chris B]
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11/01/24 04:05 PM
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grout-scout
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Sounds like these pros need to restructure their deals with the sponsors. “Dear sponsor, if I come in 103rd place and sell ZERO of your product, you need to pay me $10,000 for my efforts”. Some of these guys are such idiots.
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Re: Entry fees gone for the Bass Elites
[Re: grandbassslayer]
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11/01/24 04:21 PM
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what am I missing? how is anyone upset about this? seems to me the issue is some were paying entry fees and other were not. if you were not paying entry fees, due to sponsorship, i guess this is a paycut? but could u negotiate more money from sponsors that comes directly to you?
I dunno, i'm not a pro, so what do I know. Have you looked at the payout schedule and watched anything on it. Numbers are out there how can anyone not? But maybe im missing something. i think the issue for some is the realization of sponsorship money to pay for fees. Well if that money now goes direct to angler this could be good for those who were receiving it. if you were unfortunate to not have sponsors for paying fees, seems like a lot less risk. Upside of this could be more money to anglers in the form of sponsorship dollars. Its just change. I think it also lower the risks for newbs getting in. Put the sponsorship money aside - regardless if your fees are paid by a sponsor or not, regardless if you get to keep that money or not- the entire pay structure has been shifted to the bottom half of the field. sure put it aside it may not be better, but that's not the business model for anglers. Both payout structures that equals failure, its how you take advantage of the platform in my opinion.
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Re: Entry fees gone for the Bass Elites
[Re: Chris B]
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11/01/24 06:38 PM
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Good for Bass and the Elites.
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Re: Entry fees gone for the Bass Elites
[Re: Chris B]
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11/01/24 08:58 PM
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Re: Entry fees gone for the Bass Elites
[Re: Chris B]
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11/01/24 09:05 PM
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they took $500K a year out of the prize pool. it is a red herring for sure
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Re: Entry fees gone for the Bass Elites
[Re: Douglas J]
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11/01/24 10:58 PM
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they took $500K a year out of the prize pool. it is a red herring for sure They took $425k per tournament out of the prize pool. $3.8 million per year.
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Re: Entry fees gone for the Bass Elites
[Re: Chris B]
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11/01/24 11:39 PM
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I guessed they assumed no one would notice because you have to really suck at math to sign up anyways.
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Re: Entry fees gone for the Bass Elites
[Re: pchapin]
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11/02/24 01:43 AM
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they took $500K a year out of the prize pool. it is a red herring for sure They took $425k per tournament out of the prize pool. $3.8 million per year. Correct. But they also decreased revenue by $3.55 million per year. All of the comments about the economy are not smoke and mirrors. You can't have zero entry fees and the same payouts. BASS is a for profit company. I would have rather seen a compromise. Cut the entry fees in half and only pay the top 40. That way it is truly a performance based model.
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Re: Entry fees gone for the Bass Elites
[Re: Big Swimbait]
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11/02/24 01:53 PM
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they took $500K a year out of the prize pool. it is a red herring for sure They took $425k per tournament out of the prize pool. $3.8 million per year. Correct. But they also decreased revenue by $3.55 million per year. All of the comments about the economy are not smoke and mirrors. You can't have zero entry fees and the same payouts. BASS is a for profit company. I would have rather seen a compromise. Cut the entry fees in half and only pay the top 40. That way it is truly a performance based model. That would have been a good idea.
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Re: Entry fees gone for the Bass Elites
[Re: Chris B]
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11/02/24 02:06 PM
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BASS good MLF bad….even when they both change rules, field size and payouts to keep their business running. I get it now. Makes me think Worldwide might need to dig his knee pads out the trunk.
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Re: Entry fees gone for the Bass Elites
[Re: Monty Wright]
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11/02/24 08:59 PM
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“Now, the Elite Series is in a league of its own, and the only league equivalent to other major individual sports”  You are smoking crack- fishing isn’t the knat on the rear of any major sport. Cornhole has a bigger following.
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Re: Entry fees gone for the Bass Elites
[Re: grandbassslayer]
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11/02/24 09:17 PM
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“Now, the Elite Series is in a league of its own, and the only league equivalent to other major individual sports” You are smoking crack- fishing isn’t the knat on the rear of any major sport. Cornhole has a bigger following. 
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Re: Entry fees gone for the Bass Elites
[Re: Chris B]
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11/02/24 10:05 PM
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So if I qualify for the Elites, all I gotta do is show up and I got a shot at $100k? Yea Im not interested in that.
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Re: Entry fees gone for the Bass Elites
[Re: Chris B]
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11/03/24 03:44 PM
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So they decreased their entry fee revenue by 4.68 million based on 104 anglers. Well this will be interesting to watch and listen too. 
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Re: Entry fees gone for the Bass Elites
[Re: Champion1]
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11/03/24 03:53 PM
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So if I qualify for the Elites, all I gotta do is show up and I got a shot at $100k? Yea Im not interested in that. Wellllllll…..you know……apparently they aren’t worried about first place, they just worry about anything else. I still can’t fathom how guys can cry about saving $45k, which makes every drop of their sponsorship money pure profit.
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