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Re: Wacky Rig Experts
[Re: NateRich5797]
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10/24/24 08:23 PM
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4Weight
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I exclusively use an improved clinch for all my knots line to hook or fly except the occasional loop knot. Never had an issue bass fishing any application with the imp clinch.
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Re: Wacky Rig Experts
[Re: NateRich5797]
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10/24/24 10:44 PM
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ezbassin
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I have used three different knots. Palomar, Improved clinch, and Trilene. Shockingly to me the Palomar is breaking off the easiest of the three. You must tie the Palomar knot correctly with fluorocarbon line. If you don't, it will break.
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Re: Wacky Rig Experts
[Re: 4Weight]
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10/24/24 10:51 PM
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Sinkey
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I exclusively use an improved clinch for all my knots line to hook or fly except the occasional loop knot. Never had an issue bass fishing any application with the imp clinch. This.
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Re: Wacky Rig Experts
[Re: Sinkey]
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10/24/24 11:02 PM
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SteezMacQueen
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I exclusively use an improved clinch for all my knots line to hook or fly except the occasional loop knot. Never had an issue bass fishing any application with the imp clinch. This. If something as simple as tying a good knot design, vs an inferior knot design would land more fish, why would you choose the inferior knot? The improved clinch is on average 10% weaker that the line it’s tied with. The Palomar is on average 10% STRONGER than the line it’s tied with. Why loose 20% of the capable strength when the Palomar is easier to tie?
Eat. Sleep. Fish.
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Re: Wacky Rig Experts
[Re: SteezMacQueen]
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10/24/24 11:06 PM
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Sinkey
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I exclusively use an improved clinch for all my knots line to hook or fly except the occasional loop knot. Never had an issue bass fishing any application with the imp clinch. This. If something as simple as tying a good knot design, vs an inferior knot design would land more fish, why would you choose the inferior knot? The improved clinch is on average 10% weaker that the line it’s tied with. The Palomar is on average 10% STRONGER than the line it’s tied with. Why loose 20% of the capable strength when the Palomar is easier to tie? You brought out a knot chart????
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Re: Wacky Rig Experts
[Re: Sinkey]
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10/25/24 12:07 AM
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SteezMacQueen
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I exclusively use an improved clinch for all my knots line to hook or fly except the occasional loop knot. Never had an issue bass fishing any application with the imp clinch. This. If something as simple as tying a good knot design, vs an inferior knot design would land more fish, why would you choose the inferior knot? The improved clinch is on average 10% weaker that the line it’s tied with. The Palomar is on average 10% STRONGER than the line it’s tied with. Why loose 20% of the capable strength when the Palomar is easier to tie? You brought out a knot chart???? I know the TFF pretty well. If I simply said the improved clinch knot sucked, the kind folks here would have to have some kind of proof.
Eat. Sleep. Fish.
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Re: Wacky Rig Experts
[Re: NateRich5797]
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10/25/24 12:13 AM
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Sinkey
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Re: Wacky Rig Experts
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10/25/24 12:39 AM
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tmd11111
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I exclusively use an improved clinch for all my knots line to hook or fly except the occasional loop knot. Never had an issue bass fishing any application with the imp clinch. This. If something as simple as tying a good knot design, vs an inferior knot design would land more fish, why would you choose the inferior knot? The improved clinch is on average 10% weaker that the line it’s tied with. The Palomar is on average 10% STRONGER than the line it’s tied with. Why loose 20% of the capable strength when the Palomar is easier to tie? You brought out a knot chart???? That’s KNOT funny
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Re: Wacky Rig Experts
[Re: NateRich5797]
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10/25/24 01:11 AM
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outfishdya
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Braid has no stretch, I have snapped plenty of lines with my flipping rig and hate braid to luoro on that setup. If you don't have 50 foot or more of line out, it will snap the leader. I do not set the hook on my spinning setups and only use braid to fluoro. Load the rod up and reel fast. I use as light as 6lb test sometimes.
Sometimes a bitter man trying to be a better man
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Re: Wacky Rig Experts
[Re: NateRich5797]
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10/25/24 02:49 AM
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Champion1
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Switch to 100percent Flouro from Trilene, you can thank me later
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Re: Wacky Rig Experts
[Re: NateRich5797]
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10/25/24 11:52 AM
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Bryanmc57
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Fish n fool knot is the one I tie almost exclusively... fast and strong. Never had one fail.
Honora Primum Vel Nullum Omnin Honorem
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Re: Wacky Rig Experts
[Re: NateRich5797]
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10/25/24 02:42 PM
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BrockstaRama
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I just realised for wacky with light line I don't use the palomer knot. I instinctively use a single strand knot and it seems to break off less. I think that knot works better for 15 pounds or higher for me personally.
When I am not fishing I am thinking about fishing. And mostly what I should have done differently my last trip! #Brockstarama
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Re: Wacky Rig Experts
[Re: NateRich5797]
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10/25/24 03:17 PM
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Bass Buster1
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Braid and leader material you are using have no stretch, pair that with a stiff rod and something has to give. Loosen the drag, a lighter power rod, or a little easier hook set. I know me I would have to lighten the power on the rod because I am going to swing when I get bit, I can't help it...
See you on the lake and have a great day!
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Re: Wacky Rig Experts
[Re: Bass Buster1]
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10/25/24 06:08 PM
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SteezMacQueen
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Braid and leader material you are using have no stretch, pair that with a stiff rod and something has to give. Loosen the drag, a lighter power rod, or a little easier hook set. I know me I would have to lighten the power on the rod because I am going to swing when I get bit, I can't help it... The fish is usually swimming off with the bait before I knew what happened.
Eat. Sleep. Fish.
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Re: Wacky Rig Experts
[Re: NateRich5797]
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10/31/24 12:50 PM
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NateRich5797
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Just wanted to follow up on this post from last week. I've switched over to using a 12 lb mono leader (trilene xl), and I haven't had a single break off. I've decreased the drag about 3 clicks as well. I no longer set the hook the same way I do a TX rig. Now I just reel up the slack, and then give it a strong upwards pull. I can definitely tell the mono is not as strong as the fluoro. There's teeth marks and scuffs all over the leader right above the hook. I have to re-tie the hook every 2-4 bass, but it still beats the dreaded break off.
Tight lines bass catchin' peoples.
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