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 Vault Hubs
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09/29/24 04:16 AM
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B.K.S.
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Anyone know of a place that works on Vault Hubs around Tyler-Longview area? Thanks
B.K.S.
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Re: Vault Hubs
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#15203758
09/29/24 12:45 PM
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tmd11111
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Did all 4 of mine this past spring, not that hard or much different than any other hub.
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Re: Vault Hubs
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#15203792
09/29/24 01:40 PM
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^^^^^^^^^^^^^... They're very easy to work on... The grease is a different animal though... Dan
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Re: Vault Hubs
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#15203876
09/29/24 03:23 PM
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Zebco1961
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Re: Vault Hubs
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09/30/24 12:46 AM
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Right now I’m trying to find the hybrid grease. The one place I found over here will just change out the whole hub and I don’t need that, besides being very costly. Gonna try a Triton dealer in Shreveport in the morning.
B.K.S.
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Re: Vault Hubs
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09/30/24 01:23 AM
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Right now I’m trying to find the hybrid grease. The one place I found over here will just change out the whole hub and I don’t need that, besides being very costly. Gonna try a Triton dealer in Shreveport in the morning. I use regular grease in mine. After a year of dealing with them vault hybrid goop on my wheels, I changed the seals for the last time. I put Lucas Red & Tacky in mine. Problem free and they run as cool as the vault grease. Same seals, same bearings, same vault caps.
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Re: Vault Hubs
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#15204412
09/30/24 01:50 AM
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Right now I’m trying to find the hybrid grease. The one place I found over here will just change out the whole hub and I don’t need that, besides being very costly. Gonna try a Triton dealer in Shreveport in the morning. I use regular grease in mine. After a year of dealing with them vault hybrid goop on my wheels, I changed the seals for the last time. I put Lucas Red & Tacky in mine. Problem free and they run as cool as the vault grease. Same seals, same bearings, same vault caps. That’s my backup plan.
B.K.S.
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Re: Vault Hubs
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#15204418
09/30/24 02:02 AM
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SteezMacQueen
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Brakes for trailers dot com has the best prices for Vault parts and the hybrid vault grease Brakes 4 TrailersIf you text that number on the website link above, it is the owners personal cell number. He will respond day/night weekends. Doesn’t matter. He’s always there.
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Re: Vault Hubs
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09/30/24 02:41 AM
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Re: Vault Hubs
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#15204558
09/30/24 11:45 AM
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There's a really good trailer shop in White Oak. I've used them a few times and have been impressed each time.
Machis Truck and Trailer Repair
1705 E. Hwy 80
White Oak, TX
(903) 235-4525
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Re: Vault Hubs
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09/30/24 04:21 PM
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Tx Tree Grower
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Right now I’m trying to find the hybrid grease. The one place I found over here will just change out the whole hub and I don’t need that, besides being very costly. Gonna try a Triton dealer in Shreveport in the morning. I use regular grease in mine. After a year of dealing with them vault hybrid goop on my wheels, I changed the seals for the last time. I put Lucas Red & Tacky in mine. Problem free and they run as cool as the vault grease. Same seals, same bearings, same vault caps. Same here. Works fine. Like Steez said, if you just have to have the vault hybrid grease just order it online.
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Re: Vault Hubs
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09/30/24 04:44 PM
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There's a really good trailer shop in White Oak. I've used them a few times and have been impressed each time.
Machis Truck and Trailer Repair
1705 E. Hwy 80
White Oak, TX
(903) 235-4525 I have had much better luck using places like this than boat dealerships. Auto mechanics have forgot more about hubs than boat dealerships know.
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Re: Vault Hubs
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#15205268
10/01/24 03:02 AM
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...wrong thread.
Last edited by Dave-0; 10/01/24 03:03 AM.
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Re: Vault Hubs
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#15205513
10/01/24 02:19 PM
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When my vaults started leaking I swapped to grease seals and bearing buddies.
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Re: Vault Hubs
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10/01/24 04:08 PM
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SteezMacQueen
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When my vaults started leaking I swapped to grease seals and bearing buddies. Even the Vault hub parts dealers recommend this. They said the hybrid oil is just too thin at normal operating temperatures to NOT leak. The manual says “some seepage is normal”. Not normal to me. I hate greasy leaking hubs.
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Re: Vault Hubs
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#15205631
10/01/24 04:18 PM
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On my friends Ranger we couldn’t find any hybrid grease around Ivie so we put 50 wt. gear oil in his and it worked good
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Re: Vault Hubs
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10/01/24 05:25 PM
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On my friends Ranger we couldn’t find any hybrid grease around Ivie so we put 50 wt. gear oil in his and it worked good How did you get it in there? The vault system uses a zerk and you pump the grease in through the center of the axle, then preload the vault cap and hammer it on. You must be thinking oil bath hubs.
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Re: Vault Hubs
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10/01/24 10:18 PM
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[quote=machinist]The vault system uses a zerk and you pump the grease in through the center of the axle, then preload the vault cap and hammer it on.
I recently was researching vault hubs and how they install them and never mentioned preloading the vault cap. Can you elaborate on that? How do you do that? I saw a youtube video of someone disassembling the cap, cleaning and putting new seals in it. I am also one of those that pulled out the vaults and went with marine grease and bearing buddies. My trailer sits most of the time as my boat stays at the lake. I had read that regular grease was better for a trailer that does a lot of sitting. Reminds me, I need to pull and repack the bearings as it's been a few years.
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Re: Vault Hubs
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10/01/24 10:36 PM
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tmd11111
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[quote=machinist]The vault system uses a zerk and you pump the grease in through the center of the axle, then preload the vault cap and hammer it on.
I recently was researching vault hubs and how they install them and never mentioned preloading the vault cap. Can you elaborate on that? How do you do that? I saw a youtube video of someone disassembling the cap, cleaning and putting new seals in it. I am also one of those that pulled out the vaults and went with marine grease and bearing buddies. My trailer sits most of the time as my boat stays at the lake. I had read that regular grease was better for a trailer that does a lot of sitting. Reminds me, I need to pull and repack the bearings as it's been a few years. Preloading the cap is filling it with grease before installing it
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Re: Vault Hubs
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10/01/24 10:48 PM
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[quote=machinist]The vault system uses a zerk and you pump the grease in through the center of the axle, then preload the vault cap and hammer it on.
I recently was researching vault hubs and how they install them and never mentioned preloading the vault cap. Can you elaborate on that? How do you do that? I saw a youtube video of someone disassembling the cap, cleaning and putting new seals in it. I am also one of those that pulled out the vaults and went with marine grease and bearing buddies. My trailer sits most of the time as my boat stays at the lake. I had read that regular grease was better for a trailer that does a lot of sitting. Reminds me, I need to pull and repack the bearings as it's been a few years. Preloading the cap is filling it with grease before installing it Ahhh. Ok. Saw that on YT and in manuals but never heard someone say preload. Thanks for clarifying.
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Re: Vault Hubs
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10/01/24 11:27 PM
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On my friends Ranger we couldn’t find any hybrid grease around Ivie so we put 50 wt. gear oil in his and it worked good How did you get it in there? The vault system uses a zerk and you pump the grease in through the center of the axle, then preload the vault cap and hammer it on. You must be thinking oil bath hubs. Yes Ranger uses their own “oil bath” hubs. Ranger Trail Cool Hubs
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Re: Vault Hubs
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10/02/24 03:00 AM
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[quote=machinist]The vault system uses a zerk and you pump the grease in through the center of the axle, then preload the vault cap and hammer it on.
I recently was researching vault hubs and how they install them and never mentioned preloading the vault cap. Can you elaborate on that? How do you do that? I saw a youtube video of someone disassembling the cap, cleaning and putting new seals in it. I am also one of those that pulled out the vaults and went with marine grease and bearing buddies. My trailer sits most of the time as my boat stays at the lake. I had read that regular grease was better for a trailer that does a lot of sitting. Reminds me, I need to pull and repack the bearings as it's been a few years. Preloading the cap is filling it with grease before installing it Ahhh. Ok. Saw that on YT and in manuals but never heard someone say preload. Thanks for clarifying. Yeh. You fill the Vault cap flush with grease, when you hammer the cap onto the hub, the axle, axle nut, and cotter pin displace the grease. This displacement creates “2psi” of internal pressure. This 2psi is supposed to prevent water from seeping in past the seals. I did the same thing with the Red & Tacky grease. It’s been great since.
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Re: Vault Hubs
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10/02/24 05:04 AM
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On my friends Ranger we couldn’t find any hybrid grease around Ivie so we put 50 wt. gear oil in his and it worked good How did you get it in there? The vault system uses a zerk and you pump the grease in through the center of the axle, then preload the vault cap and hammer it on. You must be thinking oil bath hubs. I put the oil in a grease gun and pumped it in. He pulled the boat back to Big Spring where he was able to get the right grease
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Re: Vault Hubs
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10/02/24 02:26 PM
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Can a tandem axle trailer be serviced with one tube of grease?
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Re: Vault Hubs
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10/02/24 02:54 PM
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Yep, as long as you don't waste too much like I tend to do.
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Re: Vault Hubs
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10/02/24 02:59 PM
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Can a tandem axle trailer be serviced with one tube of grease? If you are just replacing the rear seal, yes. If doing all the bearings and cleaning out the hubs it will take 2 tubes.
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Re: Vault Hubs
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10/02/24 05:59 PM
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Re: Vault Hubs
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10/02/24 06:01 PM
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On my friends Ranger we couldn’t find any hybrid grease around Ivie so we put 50 wt. gear oil in his and it worked good How did you get it in there? The vault system uses a zerk and you pump the grease in through the center of the axle, then preload the vault cap and hammer it on. You must be thinking oil bath hubs. Yes Ranger uses their own “oil bath” hubs. Ranger Trail Cool Hubs Cool hubs suck.
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Re: Vault Hubs
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10/02/24 06:06 PM
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Can a tandem axle trailer be serviced with one tube of grease? It will take one tube per axle. So I’d buy 3, since you will waste some.
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Re: Vault Hubs
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10/02/24 11:12 PM
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FYI, Machis Truck & Trailer Repair doesn’t work on Vault hubs, I ended up getting a tube of the grease @ Jimmy Grainger Outdoors in Shreveport and gonna order a new hub cap from Brakes 4 Trailers when we get back from Bass Champs. Thanks for all the help!
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Re: Vault Hubs
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10/03/24 12:29 AM
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One other? Is the vault grease the same as corn head grease. I have several tube's of John Deere corn head grease already.
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Re: Vault Hubs
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10/03/24 12:37 AM
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One other? Is the vault grease the same as corn head grease. I have several tube's of John Deere corn head grease already. Not even sure what that is, but I’m gonna say probably not.
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Re: Vault Hubs
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10/03/24 12:47 AM
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It looks like it does the same thing. Thins down when warm and thickens back as it cools.
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Re: Vault Hubs
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10/03/24 12:53 AM
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One other? Is the vault grease the same as corn head grease. I have several tube's of John Deere corn head grease already. Is it the same, doubtful. Is it similar, yes. Also similar to cv joint grease.
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Re: Vault Hubs
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10/06/24 06:38 PM
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Plano Marine in Longview has Vault grease on the shelf.
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