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Re: Vault Hubs [Re: B.K.S.] #15205631 10/01/24 04:18 PM
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On my friends Ranger we couldn’t find any hybrid grease around Ivie so we put 50 wt. gear oil in his and it worked good


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Re: Vault Hubs [Re: machinist] #15205733 10/01/24 05:25 PM
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Originally Posted by machinist
On my friends Ranger we couldn’t find any hybrid grease around Ivie so we put 50 wt. gear oil in his and it worked good

How did you get it in there? The vault system uses a zerk and you pump the grease in through the center of the axle, then preload the vault cap and hammer it on.

You must be thinking oil bath hubs.


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Re: Vault Hubs [Re: SteezMacQueen] #15206114 10/01/24 10:18 PM
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Originally Posted by SteezMacQueen
[quote=machinist]The vault system uses a zerk and you pump the grease in through the center of the axle, then preload the vault cap and hammer it on.



I recently was researching vault hubs and how they install them and never mentioned preloading the vault cap. Can you elaborate on that? How do you do that? I saw a youtube video of someone disassembling the cap, cleaning and putting new seals in it.

I am also one of those that pulled out the vaults and went with marine grease and bearing buddies. My trailer sits most of the time as my boat stays at the lake. I had read that regular grease was better for a trailer that does a lot of sitting. Reminds me, I need to pull and repack the bearings as it's been a few years.

Re: Vault Hubs [Re: Jeeper92] #15206122 10/01/24 10:36 PM
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Originally Posted by Jeeper92
Originally Posted by SteezMacQueen
[quote=machinist]The vault system uses a zerk and you pump the grease in through the center of the axle, then preload the vault cap and hammer it on.



I recently was researching vault hubs and how they install them and never mentioned preloading the vault cap. Can you elaborate on that? How do you do that? I saw a youtube video of someone disassembling the cap, cleaning and putting new seals in it.

I am also one of those that pulled out the vaults and went with marine grease and bearing buddies. My trailer sits most of the time as my boat stays at the lake. I had read that regular grease was better for a trailer that does a lot of sitting. Reminds me, I need to pull and repack the bearings as it's been a few years.


Preloading the cap is filling it with grease before installing it

Re: Vault Hubs [Re: tmd11111] #15206129 10/01/24 10:48 PM
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[quote=machinist]The vault system uses a zerk and you pump the grease in through the center of the axle, then preload the vault cap and hammer it on.



I recently was researching vault hubs and how they install them and never mentioned preloading the vault cap. Can you elaborate on that? How do you do that? I saw a youtube video of someone disassembling the cap, cleaning and putting new seals in it.

I am also one of those that pulled out the vaults and went with marine grease and bearing buddies. My trailer sits most of the time as my boat stays at the lake. I had read that regular grease was better for a trailer that does a lot of sitting. Reminds me, I need to pull and repack the bearings as it's been a few years.


Preloading the cap is filling it with grease before installing it



Ahhh. Ok. Saw that on YT and in manuals but never heard someone say preload. Thanks for clarifying.

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Re: Vault Hubs [Re: SteezMacQueen] #15206151 10/01/24 11:27 PM
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Originally Posted by SteezMacQueen
Originally Posted by machinist
On my friends Ranger we couldn’t find any hybrid grease around Ivie so we put 50 wt. gear oil in his and it worked good

How did you get it in there? The vault system uses a zerk and you pump the grease in through the center of the axle, then preload the vault cap and hammer it on.

You must be thinking oil bath hubs.

Yes Ranger uses their own “oil bath” hubs. Ranger Trail Cool Hubs

Re: Vault Hubs [Re: Jeeper92] #15206364 10/02/24 03:00 AM
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[quote=machinist]The vault system uses a zerk and you pump the grease in through the center of the axle, then preload the vault cap and hammer it on.



I recently was researching vault hubs and how they install them and never mentioned preloading the vault cap. Can you elaborate on that? How do you do that? I saw a youtube video of someone disassembling the cap, cleaning and putting new seals in it.

I am also one of those that pulled out the vaults and went with marine grease and bearing buddies. My trailer sits most of the time as my boat stays at the lake. I had read that regular grease was better for a trailer that does a lot of sitting. Reminds me, I need to pull and repack the bearings as it's been a few years.


Preloading the cap is filling it with grease before installing it



Ahhh. Ok. Saw that on YT and in manuals but never heard someone say preload. Thanks for clarifying.

Yeh. You fill the Vault cap flush with grease, when you hammer the cap onto the hub, the axle, axle nut, and cotter pin displace the grease. This displacement creates “2psi” of internal pressure. This 2psi is supposed to prevent water from seeping in past the seals. I did the same thing with the Red & Tacky grease. It’s been great since.


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Re: Vault Hubs [Re: SteezMacQueen] #15206448 10/02/24 05:04 AM
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Originally Posted by SteezMacQueen
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On my friends Ranger we couldn’t find any hybrid grease around Ivie so we put 50 wt. gear oil in his and it worked good

How did you get it in there? The vault system uses a zerk and you pump the grease in through the center of the axle, then preload the vault cap and hammer it on.

You must be thinking oil bath hubs.

I put the oil in a grease gun and pumped it in. He pulled the boat back to Big Spring where he was able to get the right grease


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Re: Vault Hubs [Re: B.K.S.] #15206618 10/02/24 02:26 PM
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Can a tandem axle trailer be serviced with one tube of grease?

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Yep, as long as you don't waste too much like I tend to do.

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Originally Posted by Igofish2
Can a tandem axle trailer be serviced with one tube of grease?


If you are just replacing the rear seal, yes. If doing all the bearings and cleaning out the hubs it will take 2 tubes.

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On my friends Ranger we couldn’t find any hybrid grease around Ivie so we put 50 wt. gear oil in his and it worked good

How did you get it in there? The vault system uses a zerk and you pump the grease in through the center of the axle, then preload the vault cap and hammer it on.

You must be thinking oil bath hubs.

Yes Ranger uses their own “oil bath” hubs. Ranger Trail Cool Hubs


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Re: Vault Hubs [Re: Igofish2] #15206842 10/02/24 06:06 PM
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Can a tandem axle trailer be serviced with one tube of grease?

It will take one tube per axle. So I’d buy 3, since you will waste some.


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Re: Vault Hubs [Re: B.K.S.] #15207153 10/02/24 11:12 PM
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FYI, Machis Truck & Trailer Repair doesn’t work on Vault hubs, I ended up getting a tube of the grease @ Jimmy Grainger Outdoors in Shreveport and gonna order a new hub cap from Brakes 4 Trailers when we get back from Bass Champs. Thanks for all the help!


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