texasfishingforum.com logo
Main Menu
Advertisement
Affiliates
Advertisement
Newest Members
D17, LostMyFish, DickeyMcD, jyaklin, bcrutchfield
119468 Registered Users
Top Posters(All Time)
TexDawg 123,097
hopalong 121,182
Bigbob_FTW 101,803
Bob Davis 91,457
John175☮ 86,105
Pilothawk 83,752
Mark Perry 73,866
Derek 🐝 68,439
JDavis7873 67,416
Forum Statistics
Forums59
Topics1,051,722
Posts14,182,373
Members144,468
Most Online39,925
Dec 30th, 2023
Print Thread
Page 1 of 3 1 2 3
Crazy law in Oklahoma #15173594 08/26/24 07:43 PM
Joined: May 2013
Posts: 281
C
catdub Offline OP
Angler
OP Offline
Angler
C
Joined: May 2013
Posts: 281
I didn't know this but I have to have a fishing liscense to fish a private pond in Oklahoma that's insane because In texas that's not the case why does Oklahoma have to be different? I don't understand this law


Wesley
Moritz Chevrolet - 9101 Camp Bowie W Blvd, Fort Worth, TX - Monte Coon (817) 696-2003
Re: Crazy law in Oklahoma [Re: catdub] #15173602 08/26/24 07:54 PM
Joined: Nov 2007
Posts: 5,729
ssmith Offline
TFF Celebrity
Offline
TFF Celebrity
Joined: Nov 2007
Posts: 5,729
their state their laws not all states do the same.

Re: Crazy law in Oklahoma [Re: ssmith] #15173605 08/26/24 07:57 PM
Joined: May 2013
Posts: 281
C
catdub Offline OP
Angler
OP Offline
Angler
C
Joined: May 2013
Posts: 281
I'm trying to figure out thier reason why out of curiosity


Wesley
Re: Crazy law in Oklahoma [Re: catdub] #15173608 08/26/24 07:59 PM
Joined: Feb 2005
Posts: 3,959
fivebites Offline
TFF Team Angler
Offline
TFF Team Angler
Joined: Feb 2005
Posts: 3,959
why do ANY of them charge ANY fees? Can't line any pockets without someone paying! Guvment!


2019 Chevy Tahoe
2018 Basscat Eyra 250 Proxs
PB Wife of 32 years!
PB Largemouth 9.56 Ray Roberts
Re: Crazy law in Oklahoma [Re: catdub] #15173609 08/26/24 08:00 PM
Joined: May 2013
Posts: 281
C
catdub Offline OP
Angler
OP Offline
Angler
C
Joined: May 2013
Posts: 281
The only thing I can think of is. Oklahoma has less money than texas and they need more liscense sells and Oklahoma sucks hook em horns


Wesley
Re: Crazy law in Oklahoma [Re: catdub] #15173651 08/26/24 09:00 PM
Joined: Nov 2007
Posts: 5,729
ssmith Offline
TFF Celebrity
Offline
TFF Celebrity
Joined: Nov 2007
Posts: 5,729
this is why they want to collect all the money from the law abiding folks so it will subsidies the rest of the folks who dont.

Re: Crazy law in Oklahoma [Re: catdub] #15173654 08/26/24 09:04 PM
Joined: May 2009
Posts: 8,882
Barrett Offline
TFF Celebrity
Offline
TFF Celebrity
Joined: May 2009
Posts: 8,882
Oklahoma game wardens dont even work.

Re: Crazy law in Oklahoma [Re: Barrett] #15173662 08/26/24 09:14 PM
Joined: Feb 2002
Posts: 3,081
T
Txduckhunter Offline
TFF Team Angler
Offline
TFF Team Angler
T
Joined: Feb 2002
Posts: 3,081
Originally Posted by Barrett
Oklahoma game wardens dont even work.


We hunt up there in SW OK a lot. See the warden about every 3 seasons, maybe.

Re: Crazy law in Oklahoma [Re: Barrett] #15173688 08/26/24 09:37 PM
Joined: Mar 2005
Posts: 7,421
S
SC-001 Offline
TFF Celebrity
Offline
TFF Celebrity
S
Joined: Mar 2005
Posts: 7,421
Originally Posted by Barrett
Oklahoma game wardens dont even work.

They really don't, one of the guys at Bassfest said no need to get a Texoma license just a Texas one because ain't gonna get checked on the OK side smile

Last edited by SC-001; 08/26/24 09:39 PM.
Re: Crazy law in Oklahoma [Re: catdub] #15173708 08/26/24 09:53 PM
Joined: Dec 2010
Posts: 5,887
M
Mckinneycrappiecatcher Offline
TFF Celebrity
Offline
TFF Celebrity
M
Joined: Dec 2010
Posts: 5,887
I guess I understand a hunting license because deer are transient, but in regard to a private pond, those fish aren’t transient and owned by the state. They’re isolated and owned by the landowner, as is the water. It’s not a state resource that any state money goes towards managing.

Re: Crazy law in Oklahoma [Re: Txduckhunter] #15173714 08/26/24 10:06 PM
Joined: May 2009
Posts: 8,882
Barrett Offline
TFF Celebrity
Offline
TFF Celebrity
Joined: May 2009
Posts: 8,882
Originally Posted by Txduckhunter
Originally Posted by Barrett
Oklahoma game wardens dont even work.


We hunt up there in SW OK a lot. See the warden about every 3 seasons, maybe.



I hunt quite a bit of public in oklahoma and the last game warden i saw was 6 years ago. I was loading up with a bloody tail gate and he was talking out his truck window. I finally got sick of the small talk and said you wanna see the deer and my license.

I swear to God he looked at me and said "you look pretty honest, have a good week" and drove off.

Re: Crazy law in Oklahoma [Re: Barrett] #15173758 08/26/24 11:00 PM
Joined: Jun 2007
Posts: 469
ToadThrower Offline
Angler
Offline
Angler
Joined: Jun 2007
Posts: 469
From the Oklahoma Department of Wildlife page:

Resident owners or tenants, their spouses, parents, grandparents, children and their spouses, grandchildren and their spouses who fish in private ponds on land owned or leased by such owner or tenant are exempt from a fishing license
Resident landowners or tenants who hunt or trap only on land owned or agriculturally leased by them (not including hunting leases) are exempt from the hunting license.
Resident landowners who hunt waterfowl and other migratory game birds only on their own property are exempt from the Oklahoma waterfowl license and HIP requirements.
Persons residing in another state who own land in Oklahoma but do not live on that land are considered nonresidents and are not exempt.

Re: Crazy law in Oklahoma [Re: catdub] #15173799 08/26/24 11:44 PM
Joined: Jun 2012
Posts: 108
E
electrogun Offline
Outdoorsman
Offline
Outdoorsman
E
Joined: Jun 2012
Posts: 108
If you are 65 and older from Texas, no fishing license required in OK

Re: Crazy law in Oklahoma [Re: catdub] #15173952 08/27/24 04:07 AM
Joined: Jun 2020
Posts: 14,825
G
grandbassslayer Offline
TFF Guru
Offline
TFF Guru
G
Joined: Jun 2020
Posts: 14,825
Wardens for sure work they are just spread thin

Re: Crazy law in Oklahoma [Re: catdub] #15173957 08/27/24 04:31 AM
Joined: Mar 2003
Posts: 3,721
P
PowerLizard Offline
TFF Team Angler
Offline
TFF Team Angler
P
Joined: Mar 2003
Posts: 3,721
Does that also apply to Tribal Land.

Re: Crazy law in Oklahoma [Re: catdub] #15174478 08/27/24 06:02 PM
Joined: Jan 2014
Posts: 477
L
Lmgreeri Offline
Angler
Offline
Angler
L
Joined: Jan 2014
Posts: 477
Yankees just do things different

Re: Crazy law in Oklahoma [Re: catdub] #15176135 08/29/24 03:29 PM
Joined: Nov 2008
Posts: 7,695
3
361V Offline
TFF Celebrity
Offline
TFF Celebrity
3
Joined: Nov 2008
Posts: 7,695
Originally Posted by catdub
I'm trying to figure out thier reason why out of curiosity

Money?

Re: Crazy law in Oklahoma [Re: catdub] #15176220 08/29/24 03:58 PM
Joined: Dec 2005
Posts: 4,357
O
ogles824 (aka Lakewaydr50) Offline
TFF Team Angler
Offline
TFF Team Angler
O
Joined: Dec 2005
Posts: 4,357
Just went to look in my home state Louisiana and its not required on land locked private property.


2012 ZX200 Skeeter
2012 Yamaha 200 SHO

Isaiah 40:31 "but those who hope in the Lord will renew their strength. They will soar on wings like eagles, they will run and not grow weary, they will walk and not be faint.
Proud student of the Pro Staffer.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TzwF72B2F2w&t=14s
Re: Crazy law in Oklahoma [Re: PowerLizard] #15176408 08/29/24 06:10 PM
Joined: Jun 2020
Posts: 14,825
G
grandbassslayer Offline
TFF Guru
Offline
TFF Guru
G
Joined: Jun 2020
Posts: 14,825
Originally Posted by PowerLizard
Does that also apply to Tribal Land.

I think the problem there is the federal ruling that screwed everything up. You’d have to be a federal officer to cite an Indian.

Re: Crazy law in Oklahoma [Re: grandbassslayer] #15176460 08/29/24 06:54 PM
Joined: Jan 2010
Posts: 655
O
OkAce Offline
Pro Angler
Offline
Pro Angler
O
Joined: Jan 2010
Posts: 655
Originally Posted by grandbassslayer
Originally Posted by PowerLizard
Does that also apply to Tribal Land.

I think the problem there is the federal ruling that screwed everything up. You’d have to be a federal officer to cite an Indian.


Oklahoma game wardens can cite Natives

Re: Crazy law in Oklahoma [Re: OkAce] #15176528 08/29/24 07:39 PM
Joined: Jun 2020
Posts: 14,825
G
grandbassslayer Offline
TFF Guru
Offline
TFF Guru
G
Joined: Jun 2020
Posts: 14,825
Originally Posted by OkAce
Originally Posted by grandbassslayer
Originally Posted by PowerLizard
Does that also apply to Tribal Land.

I think the problem there is the federal ruling that screwed everything up. You’d have to be a federal officer to cite an Indian.


Oklahoma game wardens can cite Natives

They must have some sort of compact with the tribes?

Re: Crazy law in Oklahoma [Re: grandbassslayer] #15177052 08/30/24 11:02 AM
Joined: Jan 2010
Posts: 655
O
OkAce Offline
Pro Angler
Offline
Pro Angler
O
Joined: Jan 2010
Posts: 655
Originally Posted by grandbassslayer
Originally Posted by OkAce
Originally Posted by grandbassslayer
Originally Posted by PowerLizard
Does that also apply to Tribal Land.

I think the problem there is the federal ruling that screwed everything up. You’d have to be a federal officer to cite an Indian.


Oklahoma game wardens can cite Natives

They must have some sort of compact with the tribes?


The game wardens are cross deputized

Re: Crazy law in Oklahoma [Re: catdub] #15204492 09/30/24 08:46 AM
Joined: Oct 2016
Posts: 2
M
MHS Boat Cap Offline
Green Horn
Offline
Green Horn
M
Joined: Oct 2016
Posts: 2
The only place I’ve ever been stopped on the water for a license check was on Texoma, on the Oklahoma side by one of their game wardens

Re: Crazy law in Oklahoma [Re: catdub] #15204583 09/30/24 12:06 PM
Joined: Jun 2011
Posts: 5,656
H2O Seeker Offline
TFF Celebrity
Offline
TFF Celebrity
Joined: Jun 2011
Posts: 5,656


[Linked Image]
Grateful for every sunrise and sunset I get to witness. - Jason
Re: Crazy law in Oklahoma [Re: MHS Boat Cap] #15204591 09/30/24 12:16 PM
Joined: Apr 2006
Posts: 26,011
O
outfishdya Offline
TFF Guru
Offline
TFF Guru
O
Joined: Apr 2006
Posts: 26,011
Originally Posted by MHS Boat Cap
The only place I’ve ever been stopped on the water for a license check was on Texoma, on the Oklahoma side by one of their game wardens

Guess you have not fished Sandlin on a weekend outside of deer season.


Sometimes a bitter man trying to be a better man
Re: Crazy law in Oklahoma [Re: catdub] #15204670 09/30/24 01:32 PM
Joined: Feb 2008
Posts: 13,738
D
Dan21XRS Offline
TFF Guru
Offline
TFF Guru
D
Joined: Feb 2008
Posts: 13,738
Game wardens have more "power" or unconventional power than regular LEO... They can enter your property without a search warrant... Board your boat without permission, seize personal property without probable cause... Always best to be on your best behavior when they stop and question you... I know exact compartments I have my throw cushion, fire extinguisher tow ropes fishing licenses and additional life vest... If you've gotta dig and tear the boat up that's a sign for them to keep asking and before you know it it's a full blown inspection... Dan


"The problem with having a sense of humor is often that people you use it on aren't in a very good mood"...
Lou Holtz
Re: Crazy law in Oklahoma [Re: PowerLizard] #15204681 09/30/24 01:48 PM
Joined: Jan 2020
Posts: 320
U
Unclebubba Offline
Angler
Offline
Angler
U
Joined: Jan 2020
Posts: 320
Originally Posted by PowerLizard
Does that also apply to Tribal Land.

That depends on the tribe and your tribal status. If you are a Cherokee citizen, your citizenship is your hunting and fishing license on Cherokee land.


Intercoastal Financial Group
www.boatloan.com/michael-hunt/
Re: Crazy law in Oklahoma [Re: catdub] #15204694 09/30/24 01:59 PM
Joined: Nov 2011
Posts: 7,697
B
beartrap Online Content
TFF Celebrity
Online Content
TFF Celebrity
B
Joined: Nov 2011
Posts: 7,697
Eufaula which borders Georgia and Alabama has a reciprocal agreement and a license from either state is valid anywhere on the lake....I thought most states had similar agreements on border type lakes.....

Re: Crazy law in Oklahoma [Re: beartrap] #15204757 09/30/24 02:59 PM
Joined: Feb 2008
Posts: 13,738
D
Dan21XRS Offline
TFF Guru
Offline
TFF Guru
D
Joined: Feb 2008
Posts: 13,738
Originally Posted by beartrap
Eufaula which borders Georgia and Alabama has a reciprocal agreement and a license from either state is valid anywhere on the lake....I thought most states had similar agreements on border type lakes.....


I'd say that's the exception rather than the rule... I know Dale Hollow, Kentucky, Barkley, the Ohio River the Great Lakes you need all the licenses to fish these border state bodies of water... Dan


"The problem with having a sense of humor is often that people you use it on aren't in a very good mood"...
Lou Holtz
Re: Crazy law in Oklahoma [Re: catdub] #15204766 09/30/24 03:12 PM
Joined: Mar 2009
Posts: 1,145
S
salex Offline
Extreme Angler
Offline
Extreme Angler
S
Joined: Mar 2009
Posts: 1,145
We lease about 15 private lakes in Oklahoma and to my knowledge none of our members have ever been asked for a license in 28 years. Not that it couldn't happen. But game wardens are generally not out checking for fishing licenses on private land. I'm not advocating for breaking the law. I don't know the reason for a fishing license needed for private land in Oklahoma, but I'm sure its just another way to make a little money for the state.


Steve Alexander
salexander@privatewaterfishing.com
www.privatewaterfishing.com

Re: Crazy law in Oklahoma [Re: Unclebubba] #15204875 09/30/24 05:37 PM
Joined: Jun 2011
Posts: 5,656
H2O Seeker Offline
TFF Celebrity
Offline
TFF Celebrity
Joined: Jun 2011
Posts: 5,656
Originally Posted by Unclebubba
Originally Posted by PowerLizard
Does that also apply to Tribal Land.

That depends on the tribe and your tribal status. If you are a Cherokee citizen, your citizenship is your hunting and fishing license on Cherokee land.


There is more reciprocity now. One of the links I posted earlier goes into that.


[Linked Image]
Grateful for every sunrise and sunset I get to witness. - Jason
Re: Crazy law in Oklahoma [Re: catdub] #15204985 09/30/24 08:04 PM
Joined: Sep 2019
Posts: 10
O
Oldbulletdude Offline
Green Horn
Offline
Green Horn
O
Joined: Sep 2019
Posts: 10
That’s not right, brother in Iowa Park got ticket for hunting dove on his own land last year without license lol

Re: Crazy law in Oklahoma [Re: H2O Seeker] #15206444 10/02/24 04:45 AM
Joined: Jan 2020
Posts: 320
U
Unclebubba Offline
Angler
Offline
Angler
U
Joined: Jan 2020
Posts: 320
Originally Posted by H2O Seeker
Originally Posted by Unclebubba
Originally Posted by PowerLizard
Does that also apply to Tribal Land.

That depends on the tribe and your tribal status. If you are a Cherokee citizen, your citizenship is your hunting and fishing license on Cherokee land.


There is more reciprocity now. One of the links I posted earlier goes into that.

Good info! Cherokee nation needs to get with Osage nation with the same reciprocity!


Intercoastal Financial Group
www.boatloan.com/michael-hunt/
Re: Crazy law in Oklahoma [Re: Unclebubba] #15206732 10/02/24 04:17 PM
Joined: Feb 2002
Posts: 2,170
S
SoonerDG Offline
Extreme Angler
Offline
Extreme Angler
S
Joined: Feb 2002
Posts: 2,170
Originally Posted by Unclebubba
Originally Posted by H2O Seeker
Originally Posted by Unclebubba
Originally Posted by PowerLizard
Does that also apply to Tribal Land.

That depends on the tribe and your tribal status. If you are a Cherokee citizen, your citizenship is your hunting and fishing license on Cherokee land.


There is more reciprocity now. One of the links I posted earlier goes into that.

Good info! Cherokee nation needs to get with Osage nation with the same reciprocity!

Cherokee Nation provides any Oklahoma resident with a Cherokee role number a free state hunting/fishing license every year. They still send me one every year but I can't use it since i'm no longer an OK resident.


"Life is a matter of luck and the odds of success are in no way enhanced by extreme caution." - Erich Topp, German U-boat Commander, 1943.

When in doubt, set the hook.
Re: Crazy law in Oklahoma [Re: catdub] #15206750 10/02/24 04:41 PM
Joined: Aug 2006
Posts: 19,309
C
COFF Offline
TFF Guru
Offline
TFF Guru
C
Joined: Aug 2006
Posts: 19,309
Same question could be applied to hunting in Texas. Why should a hunting license be required to hunt private property? Even with a fully enclosed high fence, you must be licensed and follow the tagging rules.


[Linked Image]
Re: Crazy law in Oklahoma [Re: COFF] #15206972 10/02/24 08:40 PM
Joined: Jun 2011
Posts: 5,656
H2O Seeker Offline
TFF Celebrity
Offline
TFF Celebrity
Joined: Jun 2011
Posts: 5,656
Originally Posted by COFF
Same question could be applied to hunting in Texas. Why should a hunting license be required to hunt private property? Even with a fully enclosed high fence, you must be licensed and follow the tagging rules.


1. Texas land is 95% privately owned.
2. Most landowners have no interest in managing wildlife or any game species.
3. Many landowners who raise cattle still do not believe cattle and other 4 legged wildlife can coexist and be sustainable on the same property.
4. License is not required on private land with landowner consent for hogs and/or predators or non game nuisance animals.

New Texas Laws Affecting Feral Hog Hunting, License Validation Take Effect Sept. 1
Aug. 29, 2019
Media Contact: TPWD News, Business Hours, 512-389-8030
News Image Share on Facebook Share Release URL


AUSTIN – Feral hogs are so loathed by landowners in Texas for their habitat destroying behavior that beginning Sept. 1, you won’t even need a hunting license to pursue them on private property. That’s when a new law takes effect removing even more obstacles from controlling hog numbers.

The new law, SB 317 by Sen. Bryan Hughes (Mineola), passed during the 86th Texas Legislature and exempts any person (resident or nonresident), with landowner consent, from a hunting license requirement to hunt feral hogs. It is still a violation to hunt without a license if hunting without consent. The new law removes any reference to depredation and the exemption applies for the take of all feral hogs.

The new law only applies to private property, and is irrelevant of whether or not it is a paid hunt, although allowing hunting access in return for financial or other consideration still requires a hunting lease license from the Texas Parks and Wildlife Department. A hunting license is still required on public land. Hunter education requirements also still apply.

Hunters Can Use Digital Image of Licenses Afield
Also effective Sept. 1, in most cases hunters will not be required to carry their original paper hunting and fishing licenses with them to the field. HB 547 by State Rep. Terry Canales (Edinburg) allows licensees to use a photograph of their physical license to serve as verification of a valid license while hunting any game that doesn’t need a tag, like dove. You must carry your physical license with you for deer and turkey hunts, and if you want to retain an oversized red drum, since they require tags. Your license can now be viewed digitally on the Outdoor Annual mobile app or the My Texas Hunt Harvest app. Also accepted will be a legible digital photo, your emailed receipt, or your online purchase record. If your Outdoor Annual app was downloaded before Aug. 15, you’ll need to update it to version 6 in order to access your license and view the 2019-2020 regulations.


[Linked Image]
Grateful for every sunrise and sunset I get to witness. - Jason
Re: Crazy law in Oklahoma [Re: catdub] #15208827 10/04/24 06:37 PM
Joined: Dec 2019
Posts: 40
C
CDub74 Offline
Outdoorsman
Offline
Outdoorsman
C
Joined: Dec 2019
Posts: 40
OK built a lot of those ponds for land owners so if you are a public fishing man you can't fish private water without a license.

Re: Crazy law in Oklahoma [Re: catdub] #15209327 10/05/24 02:17 PM
Joined: Apr 2013
Posts: 60
F
Fisher Jack Offline
Outdoorsman
Offline
Outdoorsman
F
Joined: Apr 2013
Posts: 60
One exception you may be able to take advantage of, if you are 65 y/o or older, a Texas resident, and possess a Texas fishing license, you do not need a fishing license to fish anywhere in Okalhoma, good rule for my wife and I because we fish Broken Bow lake every year for 1-2 weeks.

Re: Crazy law in Oklahoma [Re: SoonerDG] #15212580 10/08/24 08:43 PM
Joined: Jan 2010
Posts: 655
O
OkAce Offline
Pro Angler
Offline
Pro Angler
O
Joined: Jan 2010
Posts: 655

Cherokee Nation provides any Oklahoma resident with a Cherokee role number a free state hunting/fishing license every year. They still send me one every year but I can't use it since i'm no longer an OK resident.[/quote]

They don’t anymore. The compact with the state went away.

Re: Crazy law in Oklahoma [Re: catdub] #15212726 10/09/24 12:50 AM
Joined: Jul 2014
Posts: 4,359
B
Bobby Milam Offline
TFF Team Angler
Offline
TFF Team Angler
B
Joined: Jul 2014
Posts: 4,359
Not sure what is hard to understand. Texas doesn't make explanations of why they create any law.

Page 1 of 3 1 2 3
Previous Thread
Index
Next Thread

© 1998-2022 OUTDOOR SITES NETWORK all rights reserved USA and Worldwide
Powered by UBB.threads™ PHP Forum Software 7.7.3