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Bass Pro Tour - who got cut?
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Anyone done the math? Two that I follow Roumbanis and Bertrand I think may be outside looking in, guess it will depend how many inside the cut move leagues or stay. I think most all the rookies outside of Drew Gill are cut.
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Re: Bass Pro Tour - who got cut?
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Quick calculation of bottom 20 Matthew Stefan Brandon Coulter Britt Myers David Walker Cliff Crochet Jason Vance John Murray Grae Buck Gary Klein Josh Bertrand Matt Lee Fred Roumbanis Ryan Salzman Kelly Jordon Scott Suggs Boyd Duckett Jacopo Gallelli Colby Schrumpf Joshua Weaver James Watson
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Re: Bass Pro Tour - who got cut?
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Most of those are a little long in the tooth and apparently couldn’t adapt to technology. Out with the old in with the new!
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Re: Bass Pro Tour - who got cut?
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Well Jordan, Klein & Duckett will be exempted, so remove them and Watson is already gone.
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Re: Bass Pro Tour - who got cut?
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Hard to believe Bertrand is on that list. I remember when he started doesn't seem that long ago.
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Re: Bass Pro Tour - who got cut?
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All part of Ducketts vision.
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Re: Bass Pro Tour - who got cut?
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I like Bertrand and hope he turns it around. Fished around him a lot on Saguaro lake in AZ back in the day, dudes a stick!
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Re: Bass Pro Tour - who got cut?
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Well Jordan, Klein & Duckett will be exempted, so remove them and Watson is already gone. I agree
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Re: Bass Pro Tour - who got cut?
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I like Bertrand and hope he turns it around. Fished around him a lot on Saguaro lake in AZ back in the day, dudes a stick! I'm a Bertrand fan, was great to see him win the US Open. This guy has a lot of the same names as Pchapin but a few different,
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Re: Bass Pro Tour - who got cut?
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never heard it mentioned .....does anybody know if the founders of MLF are exempt from being cut?
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never heard it mentioned .....does anybody know if the founders of MLF are exempt from being cut? They're still crafting the rule on that... Dan
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Re: Bass Pro Tour - who got cut?
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never heard it mentioned .....does anybody know if the founders of MLF are exempt from being cut? Yep, they can also fish during the off-limits too and only get a five minute penalty.
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Re: Bass Pro Tour - who got cut?
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never heard it mentioned .....does anybody know if the founders of MLF are exempt from being cut? I think it was owners in the past but McClelland was an owner and still got cut so think that is out the window. Duckett has had some of the worst results on that tour, he absolutely has to be kicked down to the invitationals unless there is a mass exodus to the Opens and Elites with legends exemptions bumping him back in. Anyone know who the angler owners still are, I think Skeet and Kelly Jordan are, Iaconelli might still be and he's no longer there.
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never heard it mentioned .....does anybody know if the founders of MLF are exempt from being cut? Yep, they can also fish during the off-limits too and only get a five minute penalty. please correct me if I'm wrong but I read someplace that the reason for that 5 minute penalty was they had a tournament coming up on Guntersville where Duckett lives and has a dock on the lake....he was letting his grand kids fish off his dock and helped one of them reel in a crappie..... technically he violated a rule and they came up with a penalty that matched the severity of his offense.....
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never heard it mentioned .....does anybody know if the founders of MLF are exempt from being cut? Yep, they can also fish during the off-limits too and only get a five minute penalty. please correct me if I'm wrong but I read someplace that the reason for that 5 minute penalty was they had a tournament coming up on Guntersville where Duckett lives and has a dock on the lake....he was letting his grand kids fish off his dock and helped one of them reel in a crappie..... technically he violated a rule and they came up with a penalty that matched the severity of his offense..... Oh god beartrap spit it out already. He broke a rule that would've DQd anyone else and he made it where he was given courtesy. 5 min isn't anything.
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never heard it mentioned .....does anybody know if the founders of MLF are exempt from being cut? I think it was owners in the past but McClelland was an owner and still got cut so think that is out the window. Duckett has had some of the worst results on that tour, he absolutely has to be kicked down to the invitationals unless there is a mass exodus to the Opens and Elites with legends exemptions bumping him back in. Anyone know who the angler owners still are, I think Skeet and Kelly Jordan are, Iaconelli might still be and he's no longer there. I think these guys: Ike, Ish, Swindle, Proniznik, BP and McClelland, left on their own.
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Re: Bass Pro Tour - who got cut?
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Duckett hasn't been able to catch a cold for years, well, maybe a crappie off his dock. To allow him to stay in the BPT would simply confirm the sham that he is running.
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Re: Bass Pro Tour - who got cut?
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never heard it mentioned .....does anybody know if the founders of MLF are exempt from being cut? Yep, they can also fish during the off-limits too and only get a five minute penalty. please correct me if I'm wrong but I read someplace that the reason for that 5 minute penalty was they had a tournament coming up on Guntersville where Duckett lives and has a dock on the lake....he was letting his grand kids fish off his dock and helped one of them reel in a crappie..... technically he violated a rule and they came up with a penalty that matched the severity of his offense..... Oh god beartrap spit it out already. He broke a rule that would've DQd anyone else and he made it where he was given courtesy. 5 min isn't anything. do you really think that helping your grandson reel in a crappie from your own boat dock is reason to disqualify someone?
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Re: Bass Pro Tour - who got cut?
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never heard it mentioned .....does anybody know if the founders of MLF are exempt from being cut? I think it was owners in the past but McClelland was an owner and still got cut so think that is out the window. Duckett has had some of the worst results on that tour, he absolutely has to be kicked down to the invitationals unless there is a mass exodus to the Opens and Elites with legends exemptions bumping him back in. Anyone know who the angler owners still are, I think Skeet and Kelly Jordan are, Iaconelli might still be and he's no longer there. I think these guys: Ike, Ish, Swindle, Proniznik, BP and McClelland, left on their own. McClelland got cut two years ago, https://www.bassfan.com/news_article/10631/two-owners-among-bass-pro-tour-cuts Ike left but last I heard he still had an ownership stake, but maybe not anymore
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Interesting, I wonder how Duckett keeps hanging around then.
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Not sure how many would want a ownership stake in the Titanic, get off before it's to late.
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Re: Bass Pro Tour - who got cut?
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Is Todd Faircloth in? you know we bash all these guys day in and day in and out but they had to catch them to be there. These guys are all good, we know FFS has taken over but all these guys are great fishermen. The fact that FFS has took over is liken golf where grafite overn took steel . You have toadapt. some of the best fishermen (not FFS) readers will probably not make it. That's the way the sport is
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Re: Bass Pro Tour - who got cut?
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Not sure how many would want a ownership stake in the Titanic, get off before it's to late. seems like i heard something similar back in 2019......MLF awarded over 5 million in prize money this past year...don't have a number on the sponsorship dollars paid to anglers because they had 338 hours on national TV exposure but rest assured it is a substantial amount ...keep in mind MLF has created an opportunity for an additional 80 anglers to fish for milions of dollars the past 5 years..... here's a list of guys and their winnings last year that you may want to contact and share your thoughts on why they should leave MLF before it's too late...jacob wheeler $294,000.,drew gill $257,000.,dustin connel $191,000.,michael neal $240,000.,zack birge $183,000.,Skeet reese $168,000.....
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Re: Bass Pro Tour - who got cut?
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Matches my list except for Josh Bertrand, I had made a mistake in his lifetime AOY.
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Kinda like the Ceo's of Enron, how did that work out.
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Re: Bass Pro Tour - who got cut?
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I'm not sure on there business structure but it's probably similar to most law firms that have Senior managing partners and equity partners, if you're not familiar with that structure, look it up and it will make some sense. Don't ask me how I know.
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... do you really think that helping your grandson reel in a crappie from your own boat dock is reason to disqualify someone? Didn't KVD get dq'ed for having someone or was he on the front deck while the boat was under big engine power during practice while he was with BASS???... And hasn't BASS dq'ed guys for having family member in the boat during practice??? The rules say... And I'm right there with you... BASS has at least 22 pages of rules... 22... How many does MFL/ FLW/ BPT have??? And Boyd wrote them and approved them... Dan
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kvd got disqualified for having his son drive him around while was up on front deck looking for bedding fish….
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kvd got disqualified for having his son drive him around while was up on front deck looking for bedding fish…. Oh my!!!... Dan
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never heard it mentioned .....does anybody know if the founders of MLF are exempt from being cut? They're still crafting the rule on that... Dan The golden rule is how they don’t get cut.
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To give the rookies multiple years would mean you cut people who did better than the rookies. Is that fair?
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Not sure how many would want a ownership stake in the Titanic, get off before it's to late. seems like i heard something similar back in 2019......MLF awarded over 5 million in prize money this past year...don't have a number on the sponsorship dollars paid to anglers because they had 338 hours on national TV exposure but rest assured it is a substantial amount ...keep in mind MLF has created an opportunity for an additional 80 anglers to fish for milions of dollars the past 5 years..... here's a list of guys and their winnings last year that you may want to contact and share your thoughts on why they should leave MLF before it's too late...jacob wheeler $294,000.,drew gill $257,000.,dustin connel $191,000.,michael neal $240,000.,zack birge $183,000.,Skeet reese $168,000.....
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These are the top earners.....and still at that, that's their winnings. What's it cost them to "win" that? Entry fees, travel, accommodations, food, general expenses?? Yes, a few of those names do well with sponsors but still. Those are hardly game changing $$ numbers for the best 10% in whatever field they're in. Not like Boyd/MLF created a bunch of high end financial opportunity for people. They could've gone into a number of trades, traveled way less, and if they were the best of the best made as much or more so.....
I'm a tournament fan too, and fish some, but c'mon. "Pro bass fishing" isn't a big money maker for 95% of the field. All I'm saying is don't make Boyd out to be this great guy that's creating jobs.....he's the only one to guaranteed to make money.
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To give the rookies multiple years would mean you cut people who did better than the rookies. Is that fair? Yes if you ran the guantlet and qualified I think they should get two years to prove their worth, rookies on bassmaster get two years, Seth Feider would have got cut after his rookie season if not for the two year grace period.
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and yet, fishermen are so stupid, they will continue to fish the TW circuit in hopes of making the BPT. They continue to screw the new blood and anglers are too ignorant to see it.
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they will probly not cut anyone that has the funds to fish the pro money tree is dying off in this econnomy.
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they will probly not cut anyone that has the funds to fish the pro money tree is dying off in this econnomy. No they are cutting from 80 to 65, you add the 5 new guys from the feeder series 20 guys that have the funds to fish BPT are going away
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and yet, fishermen are so stupid, they will continue to fish the TW circuit in hopes of making the BPT. They continue to screw the new blood and anglers are too ignorant to see it. If you think about it you’d have to be stupid to fish any of them when you consider the ROI
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and yet, fishermen are so stupid, they will continue to fish the TW circuit in hopes of making the BPT. They continue to screw the new blood and anglers are too ignorant to see it. If you think about it you’d have to be stupid to fish any of them when you consider the ROI KVD, Clunn and about 100 others will disagree with you.
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and yet, fishermen are so stupid, they will continue to fish the TW circuit in hopes of making the BPT. They continue to screw the new blood and anglers are too ignorant to see it. If you think about it you’d have to be stupid to fish any of them when you consider the ROI KVD, Clunn and about 100 others will disagree with you. There are 1%'ers in everything, pursuing a career as pro angler is not a wise choice
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and yet, fishermen are so stupid, they will continue to fish the TW circuit in hopes of making the BPT. They continue to screw the new blood and anglers are too ignorant to see it. Or go and fish the opens that has a terrible payout, just to to qualify for the elites, where they have it so you can plan on not losing as much as you used to, but not really winning much either now. I think Bass champs pays deeper and more than elites, but don’t quote me on that.
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and yet, fishermen are so stupid, they will continue to fish the TW circuit in hopes of making the BPT. They continue to screw the new blood and anglers are too ignorant to see it. Or go and fish the opens that has a terrible payout, just to to qualify for the elites, where they have it so you can plan on not losing as much as you used to, but not really winning much either now. I think Bass champs pays deeper and more than elites, but don’t quote me on that. The BASS payout is so terrible I'm guessing there is going to be a rollback of the rules with some sort of compromise like they did with the no info rule https://www.bassmaster.com/elite/news/no-information-rule-changed-for-2025-elites/ MLF has certainly made mistakes but BASS is run by morons.
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not returning Randy Howell Jonathon VanDam Matthew Stefan Stephen Browning Cliff Crochet Jason Vance John Murray Grae Buck Matt Lee Ryan Salzman Kelly Jordon Scott Suggs Boyd Duckett Jacopo Gallelli Colby Schrumpf Joshua Weaver James Watson
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Re: Bass Pro Tour - who got cut?
[Re: Lone_Wolf]
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Pretty good payout. $150,000 for 1st
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Re: Bass Pro Tour - who got cut?
[Re: pchapin]
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11/05/24 12:02 AM
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not returning Randy Howell Jonathon VanDam Matthew Stefan Stephen Browning Cliff Crochet Jason Vance John Murray Grae Buck Matt Lee Ryan Salzman Kelly Jordon Scott Suggs Boyd Duckett Jacopo Gallelli Colby Schrumpf Joshua Weaver James Watson
This bunch with the exception of Stefan should have been cut years ago regardless of the field size.
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Re: Bass Pro Tour - who got cut?
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11/05/24 12:20 AM
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not returning Randy Howell Jonathon VanDam Matthew Stefan Stephen Browning Cliff Crochet Jason Vance John Murray Grae Buck Matt Lee Ryan Salzman Kelly Jordon Scott Suggs Boyd Duckett Jacopo Gallelli Colby Schrumpf Joshua Weaver James Watson
This bunch with the exception of Stefan should have been cut years ago regardless of the field size. Really? Howell has been decent Buck hasn't been there long Gallelli hasn't either
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Re: Bass Pro Tour - who got cut?
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11/05/24 02:00 AM
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Randy Howell, is going to BASS to help support his son Laker.
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Re: Bass Pro Tour - who got cut?
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11/05/24 02:32 AM
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never heard it mentioned .....does anybody know if the founders of MLF are exempt from being cut? Yep, they can also fish during the off-limits too and only get a five minute penalty. please correct me if I'm wrong but I read someplace that the reason for that 5 minute penalty was they had a tournament coming up on Guntersville where Duckett lives and has a dock on the lake....he was letting his grand kids fish off his dock and helped one of them reel in a crappie..... technically he violated a rule and they came up with a penalty that matched the severity of his offense..... Dude. It’s time to stand up off of it, stretch your legs a little, and let it go man. It’s embarrassing at this point.
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Re: Bass Pro Tour - who got cut?
[Re: Neal G]
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11/05/24 03:15 AM
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not returning Randy Howell Jonathon VanDam Matthew Stefan Stephen Browning Cliff Crochet Jason Vance John Murray Grae Buck Matt Lee Ryan Salzman Kelly Jordon Scott Suggs Boyd Duckett Jacopo Gallelli Colby Schrumpf Joshua Weaver James Watson
This bunch with the exception of Stefan should have been cut years ago regardless of the field size. Agree, the BPT rookies this year got screwed.
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Re: Bass Pro Tour - who got cut?
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11/05/24 03:17 AM
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not returning Randy Howell Jonathon VanDam Matthew Stefan Stephen Browning Cliff Crochet Jason Vance John Murray Grae Buck Matt Lee Ryan Salzman Kelly Jordon Scott Suggs Boyd Duckett Jacopo Gallelli Colby Schrumpf Joshua Weaver James Watson
This bunch with the exception of Stefan should have been cut years ago regardless of the field size. Really? Howell has been decent Buck hasn't been there long Gallelli hasn't either Howell wasn't going to get cut, he left to go back to BASS on legends exemption
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Re: Bass Pro Tour - who got cut?
[Re: avid_basser]
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11/05/24 03:19 AM
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Randy Howell, is going to BASS to help support his son Laker. He will be fishing the Elites next year, his son is still in the opens. You may have him mixed up with Beau Browning.
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Re: Bass Pro Tour - who got cut?
[Re: SC-001]
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11/05/24 04:29 AM
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Randy Howell, is going to BASS to help support his son Laker. He will be fishing the Elites next year, his son is still in the opens. You may have him mixed up with Beau Browning. Beau Browning has mentioned on a couple of podcasts and couple of weeks ago that his Dad would ve fishing the Opens.
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Re: Bass Pro Tour - who got cut?
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not returning Randy Howell Jonathon VanDam Matthew Stefan Stephen Browning Cliff Crochet Jason Vance John Murray Grae Buck Matt Lee Ryan Salzman Kelly Jordon Scott Suggs Boyd Duckett Jacopo Gallelli Colby Schrumpf Joshua Weaver James Watson
This bunch with the exception of Stefan should have been cut years ago regardless of the field size. Really? Howell has been decent Buck hasn't been there long Gallelli hasn't either Howell wasn't going to get cut, he left to go back to BASS on legends exemption I am aware of that. I was responding to the stupid comment that all of them should have been cut years ago
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Re: Bass Pro Tour - who got cut?
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11/05/24 02:59 PM
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So who were the ones in the cut that left just Howell and VanDam? It was reported more were quitting than just 2.
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Re: Bass Pro Tour - who got cut?
[Re: SC-001]
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11/07/24 02:02 AM
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So who were the ones in the cut that left just Howell and VanDam? It was reported more were quitting than just 2. Matthew Stefan Stephen Browning Cliff Crochet Jason Vance John Murray Grae Buck Matt Lee
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Re: Bass Pro Tour - who got cut?
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11/07/24 02:14 AM
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So who were the ones in the cut that left just Howell and VanDam? It was reported more were quitting than just 2. Matthew Stefan Stephen Browning Cliff Crochet Jason Vance John Murray Grae Buck Matt Lee Stefan said he didn't make the cut based on AOY average, guessing same situation for the rest other than maybe Browning, he seemed to to well in the format over the years.
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Re: Bass Pro Tour - who got cut?
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11/07/24 03:26 AM
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pchapin
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So who were the ones in the cut that left just Howell and VanDam? It was reported more were quitting than just 2. Matthew Stefan Stephen Browning Cliff Crochet Jason Vance John Murray Grae Buck Matt Lee Stefan said he didn't make the cut based on AOY average, guessing same situation for the rest other than maybe Browning, he seemed to to will in the format over the years. Stefan said that before the cut came. Five below him are in.
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Re: Bass Pro Tour - who got cut?
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11/07/24 03:45 AM
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So who were the ones in the cut that left just Howell and VanDam? It was reported more were quitting than just 2. Matthew Stefan Stephen Browning Cliff Crochet Jason Vance John Murray Grae Buck Matt Lee Stefan said he didn't make the cut based on AOY average, guessing same situation for the rest other than maybe Browning, he seemed to to will in the format over the years. He also said that he never got a call inviting him back after others declined. He's gonna fish the Opens next year.
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Re: Bass Pro Tour - who got cut?
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11/07/24 03:19 PM
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So who were the ones in the cut that left just Howell and VanDam? It was reported more were quitting than just 2. Matthew Stefan Stephen Browning Cliff Crochet Jason Vance John Murray Grae Buck Matt Lee Stefan said he didn't make the cut based on AOY average, guessing same situation for the rest other than maybe Browning, he seemed to to will in the format over the years. Stefan said that before the cut came. Five below him are in. Your just looking at the 2024 AOY standings correct? that's not the liftetime BPT AOY average factored in, rookies didn't have the luxury to fall back on that average.
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Re: Bass Pro Tour - who got cut?
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11/07/24 03:26 PM
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I believe if Stefan had been 1 place higher in the 2024 AOY he would have got invite back, he missed that by 2.5 points. 56th place out of 79 guys is not that great and probably deserving of being cut but I will say if they are wanting personalities and brands they are missing out big on not keeping him.
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