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Bass Pro Tour - who got cut? #15159240 08/12/24 09:26 PM
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Anyone done the math? Two that I follow Roumbanis and Bertrand I think may be outside looking in, guess it will depend how many inside the cut move leagues or stay. I think most all the rookies outside of Drew Gill are cut.

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Quick calculation of bottom 20
Matthew Stefan
Brandon Coulter
Britt Myers
David Walker
Cliff Crochet
Jason Vance
John Murray
Grae Buck
Gary Klein
Josh Bertrand
Matt Lee
Fred Roumbanis
Ryan Salzman
Kelly Jordon
Scott Suggs
Boyd Duckett
Jacopo Gallelli
Colby Schrumpf
Joshua Weaver
James Watson


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Most of those are a little long in the tooth and apparently couldn’t adapt to technology. Out with the old in with the new!

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Well Jordan, Klein & Duckett will be exempted, so remove them and Watson is already gone.

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Hard to believe Bertrand is on that list. I remember when he started doesn't seem that long ago.


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All part of Ducketts vision.


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I like Bertrand and hope he turns it around. Fished around him a lot on Saguaro lake in AZ back in the day, dudes a stick!

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Originally Posted by grout-scout
Well Jordan, Klein & Duckett will be exempted, so remove them and Watson is already gone.

I agree

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Originally Posted by Minner Bucket
I like Bertrand and hope he turns it around. Fished around him a lot on Saguaro lake in AZ back in the day, dudes a stick!

I'm a Bertrand fan, was great to see him win the US Open. This guy has a lot of the same names as Pchapin but a few different,

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never heard it mentioned .....does anybody know if the founders of MLF are exempt from being cut?

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Originally Posted by beartrap
never heard it mentioned .....does anybody know if the founders of MLF are exempt from being cut?


They're still crafting the rule on that... Dan


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Originally Posted by beartrap
never heard it mentioned .....does anybody know if the founders of MLF are exempt from being cut?

Yep, they can also fish during the off-limits too and only get a five minute penalty.


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Originally Posted by beartrap
never heard it mentioned .....does anybody know if the founders of MLF are exempt from being cut?

I think it was owners in the past but McClelland was an owner and still got cut so think that is out the window. Duckett has had some of the worst results on that tour, he absolutely has to be kicked down to the invitationals unless there is a mass exodus to the Opens and Elites with legends exemptions bumping him back in.

Anyone know who the angler owners still are, I think Skeet and Kelly Jordan are, Iaconelli might still be and he's no longer there.

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Originally Posted by Chris B
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never heard it mentioned .....does anybody know if the founders of MLF are exempt from being cut?

Yep, they can also fish during the off-limits too and only get a five minute penalty.


please correct me if I'm wrong but I read someplace that the reason for that 5 minute penalty was they had a tournament coming up on Guntersville where Duckett lives and has a dock on the lake....he was letting his grand kids fish off his dock and helped one of them reel in a crappie.....
technically he violated a rule and they came up with a penalty that matched the severity of his offense.....

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Originally Posted by beartrap
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never heard it mentioned .....does anybody know if the founders of MLF are exempt from being cut?

Yep, they can also fish during the off-limits too and only get a five minute penalty.


please correct me if I'm wrong but I read someplace that the reason for that 5 minute penalty was they had a tournament coming up on Guntersville where Duckett lives and has a dock on the lake....he was letting his grand kids fish off his dock and helped one of them reel in a crappie.....
technically he violated a rule and they came up with a penalty that matched the severity of his offense.....

Oh god beartrap spit it out already. He broke a rule that would've DQd anyone else and he made it where he was given courtesy. 5 min isn't anything.


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Originally Posted by Lone_Wolf
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never heard it mentioned .....does anybody know if the founders of MLF are exempt from being cut?

I think it was owners in the past but McClelland was an owner and still got cut so think that is out the window. Duckett has had some of the worst results on that tour, he absolutely has to be kicked down to the invitationals unless there is a mass exodus to the Opens and Elites with legends exemptions bumping him back in.

Anyone know who the angler owners still are, I think Skeet and Kelly Jordan are, Iaconelli might still be and he's no longer there.



I think these guys: Ike, Ish, Swindle, Proniznik, BP and McClelland, left on their own.

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Duckett hasn't been able to catch a cold for years, well, maybe a crappie off his dock. To allow him to stay in the BPT would simply confirm the sham that he is running.


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never heard it mentioned .....does anybody know if the founders of MLF are exempt from being cut?

Yep, they can also fish during the off-limits too and only get a five minute penalty.


please correct me if I'm wrong but I read someplace that the reason for that 5 minute penalty was they had a tournament coming up on Guntersville where Duckett lives and has a dock on the lake....he was letting his grand kids fish off his dock and helped one of them reel in a crappie.....
technically he violated a rule and they came up with a penalty that matched the severity of his offense.....

Oh god beartrap spit it out already. He broke a rule that would've DQd anyone else and he made it where he was given courtesy. 5 min isn't anything.


do you really think that helping your grandson reel in a crappie from your own boat dock is reason to disqualify someone?

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Originally Posted by grout-scout
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never heard it mentioned .....does anybody know if the founders of MLF are exempt from being cut?

I think it was owners in the past but McClelland was an owner and still got cut so think that is out the window. Duckett has had some of the worst results on that tour, he absolutely has to be kicked down to the invitationals unless there is a mass exodus to the Opens and Elites with legends exemptions bumping him back in.

Anyone know who the angler owners still are, I think Skeet and Kelly Jordan are, Iaconelli might still be and he's no longer there.



I think these guys: Ike, Ish, Swindle, Proniznik, BP and McClelland, left on their own.

McClelland got cut two years ago, https://www.bassfan.com/news_article/10631/two-owners-among-bass-pro-tour-cuts Ike left but last I heard he still had an ownership stake, but maybe not anymore

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Originally Posted by Lone_Wolf

McClelland got cut two years ago, https://www.bassfan.com/news_article/10631/two-owners-among-bass-pro-tour-cuts Ike left but last I heard he still had an ownership stake, but maybe not anymore




Interesting, I wonder how Duckett keeps hanging around then.

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Not sure how many would want a ownership stake in the Titanic, get off before it's to late.

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Is Todd Faircloth in? you know we bash all these guys day in and day in and out but they had to catch them to be there. These guys are all good, we know FFS has taken over but all these guys are great fishermen. The fact that FFS has took over is liken golf where grafite overn took steel . You have toadapt. some of the best fishermen (not FFS) readers will probably not make it. That's the way the sport is

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Randy got the names

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Originally Posted by champRD
Not sure how many would want a ownership stake in the Titanic, get off before it's to late.


seems like i heard something similar back in 2019......MLF awarded over 5 million in prize money this past year...don't have a number on the sponsorship dollars paid to anglers because they had 338 hours on national TV exposure but rest assured it is a substantial amount ...keep in mind MLF has created an opportunity for an additional 80 anglers to fish for milions of dollars the past 5 years..... here's a list of guys and their winnings last year that you may want to contact and share your thoughts on why they should leave MLF before it's too late...jacob wheeler $294,000.,drew gill $257,000.,dustin connel $191,000.,michael neal $240,000.,zack birge $183,000.,Skeet reese $168,000.....

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Randy got the names

Matches my list except for Josh Bertrand, I had made a mistake in his lifetime AOY.


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Kinda like the Ceo's of Enron, how did that work out.

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I'm not sure on there business structure but it's probably similar to most law firms that have Senior managing partners and equity partners, if you're not familiar with that structure, look it up and it will make some sense. Don't ask me how I know.

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Roumbanis has had a terrible end of year he also had drunk driver rear end his boat/truck and injured his back, might need to listen to the universe https://youtu.be/yNlw2bLgc3Y?si=f6R-0ZrYndcQgpGO&t=935

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Originally Posted by beartrap
... do you really think that helping your grandson reel in a crappie from your own boat dock is reason to disqualify someone?


Didn't KVD get dq'ed for having someone or was he on the front deck while the boat was under big engine power during practice while he was with BASS???... And hasn't BASS dq'ed guys for having family member in the boat during practice??? The rules say... And I'm right there with you... BASS has at least 22 pages of rules... 22... How many does MFL/ FLW/ BPT have??? And Boyd wrote them and approved them... Dan


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kvd got disqualified for having his son drive him around while was up on front deck looking for bedding fish….

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Originally Posted by beartrap
kvd got disqualified for having his son drive him around while was up on front deck looking for bedding fish….


Oh my!!!... Dan


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Originally Posted by beartrap
kvd got disqualified for having his son drive him around while was up on front deck looking for bedding fish….

For KVD was his co-angler, the son was Alton Jr. https://www.bassfan.com/rayscott_article.asp?ID=48

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never heard it mentioned .....does anybody know if the founders of MLF are exempt from being cut?


They're still crafting the rule on that... Dan


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To give the rookies multiple years would mean you cut people who did better than the rookies. Is that fair?


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Not sure how many would want a ownership stake in the Titanic, get off before it's to late.


seems like i heard something similar back in 2019......MLF awarded over 5 million in prize money this past year...don't have a number on the sponsorship dollars paid to anglers because they had 338 hours on national TV exposure but rest assured it is a substantial amount ...keep in mind MLF has created an opportunity for an additional 80 anglers to fish for milions of dollars the past 5 years..... here's a list of guys and their winnings last year that you may want to contact and share your thoughts on why they should leave MLF before it's too late...jacob wheeler $294,000.,drew gill $257,000.,dustin connel $191,000.,michael neal $240,000.,zack birge $183,000.,Skeet reese $168,000.....

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These are the top earners.....and still at that, that's their winnings. What's it cost them to "win" that? Entry fees, travel, accommodations, food, general expenses?? Yes, a few of those names do well with sponsors but still. Those are hardly game changing $$ numbers for the best 10% in whatever field they're in. Not like Boyd/MLF created a bunch of high end financial opportunity for people. They could've gone into a number of trades, traveled way less, and if they were the best of the best made as much or more so.....

I'm a tournament fan too, and fish some, but c'mon. "Pro bass fishing" isn't a big money maker for 95% of the field. All I'm saying is don't make Boyd out to be this great guy that's creating jobs.....he's the only one to guaranteed to make money.

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To give the rookies multiple years would mean you cut people who did better than the rookies. Is that fair?

Yes if you ran the guantlet and qualified I think they should get two years to prove their worth, rookies on bassmaster get two years, Seth Feider would have got cut after his rookie season if not for the two year grace period.

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and yet, fishermen are so stupid, they will continue to fish the TW circuit in hopes of making the BPT. They continue to screw the new blood and anglers are too ignorant to see it.

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they will probly not cut anyone that has the funds to fish the pro money tree is dying off in this econnomy.

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they will probly not cut anyone that has the funds to fish the pro money tree is dying off in this econnomy.

No they are cutting from 80 to 65, you add the 5 new guys from the feeder series 20 guys that have the funds to fish BPT are going away

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and yet, fishermen are so stupid, they will continue to fish the TW circuit in hopes of making the BPT. They continue to screw the new blood and anglers are too ignorant to see it.

If you think about it you’d have to be stupid to fish any of them when you consider the ROI

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and yet, fishermen are so stupid, they will continue to fish the TW circuit in hopes of making the BPT. They continue to screw the new blood and anglers are too ignorant to see it.

If you think about it you’d have to be stupid to fish any of them when you consider the ROI

KVD, Clunn and about 100 others will disagree with you.


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and yet, fishermen are so stupid, they will continue to fish the TW circuit in hopes of making the BPT. They continue to screw the new blood and anglers are too ignorant to see it.

If you think about it you’d have to be stupid to fish any of them when you consider the ROI

KVD, Clunn and about 100 others will disagree with you.

There are 1%'ers in everything, pursuing a career as pro angler is not a wise choice

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Here ya go... https://majorleaguefishing.com/bass...jor-league-fishing-bass-pro-tour-season/
No real surprises other than Browning, maybe he is going to the Opens with his son on the Elites now or just retiring. All the others missing had already annouced leaving or expected to be cut.

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and yet, fishermen are so stupid, they will continue to fish the TW circuit in hopes of making the BPT. They continue to screw the new blood and anglers are too ignorant to see it.


Or go and fish the opens that has a terrible payout, just to to qualify for the elites, where they have it so you can plan on not losing as much as you used to, but not really winning much either now. I think Bass champs pays deeper and more than elites, but don’t quote me on that.


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and yet, fishermen are so stupid, they will continue to fish the TW circuit in hopes of making the BPT. They continue to screw the new blood and anglers are too ignorant to see it.


Or go and fish the opens that has a terrible payout, just to to qualify for the elites, where they have it so you can plan on not losing as much as you used to, but not really winning much either now. I think Bass champs pays deeper and more than elites, but don’t quote me on that.

The BASS payout is so terrible I'm guessing there is going to be a rollback of the rules with some sort of compromise like they did with the no info rule https://www.bassmaster.com/elite/news/no-information-rule-changed-for-2025-elites/ MLF has certainly made mistakes but BASS is run by morons.

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Jason Vance
John Murray
Grae Buck
Matt Lee
Ryan Salzman
Kelly Jordon
Scott Suggs
Boyd Duckett
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Pretty good payout. $150,000 for 1st

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Originally Posted by pchapin
not returning
Randy Howell
Jonathon VanDam
Matthew Stefan
Stephen Browning
Cliff Crochet
Jason Vance
John Murray
Grae Buck
Matt Lee
Ryan Salzman
Kelly Jordon
Scott Suggs
Boyd Duckett
Jacopo Gallelli
Colby Schrumpf
Joshua Weaver
James Watson


This bunch with the exception of Stefan should have been cut years ago regardless of the field size.

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Originally Posted by Neal G
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not returning
Randy Howell
Jonathon VanDam
Matthew Stefan
Stephen Browning
Cliff Crochet
Jason Vance
John Murray
Grae Buck
Matt Lee
Ryan Salzman
Kelly Jordon
Scott Suggs
Boyd Duckett
Jacopo Gallelli
Colby Schrumpf
Joshua Weaver
James Watson


This bunch with the exception of Stefan should have been cut years ago regardless of the field size.

Really?
Howell has been decent
Buck hasn't been there long
Gallelli hasn't either

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Randy Howell, is going to BASS to help support his son Laker.

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never heard it mentioned .....does anybody know if the founders of MLF are exempt from being cut?

Yep, they can also fish during the off-limits too and only get a five minute penalty.


please correct me if I'm wrong but I read someplace that the reason for that 5 minute penalty was they had a tournament coming up on Guntersville where Duckett lives and has a dock on the lake....he was letting his grand kids fish off his dock and helped one of them reel in a crappie.....
technically he violated a rule and they came up with a penalty that matched the severity of his offense.....


Dude. It’s time to stand up off of it, stretch your legs a little, and let it go man. It’s embarrassing at this point.


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Originally Posted by Neal G
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Randy Howell
Jonathon VanDam
Matthew Stefan
Stephen Browning
Cliff Crochet
Jason Vance
John Murray
Grae Buck
Matt Lee
Ryan Salzman
Kelly Jordon
Scott Suggs
Boyd Duckett
Jacopo Gallelli
Colby Schrumpf
Joshua Weaver
James Watson


This bunch with the exception of Stefan should have been cut years ago regardless of the field size.


Agree, the BPT rookies this year got screwed.

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Originally Posted by Dubee
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not returning
Randy Howell
Jonathon VanDam
Matthew Stefan
Stephen Browning
Cliff Crochet
Jason Vance
John Murray
Grae Buck
Matt Lee
Ryan Salzman
Kelly Jordon
Scott Suggs
Boyd Duckett
Jacopo Gallelli
Colby Schrumpf
Joshua Weaver
James Watson


This bunch with the exception of Stefan should have been cut years ago regardless of the field size.

Really?
Howell has been decent
Buck hasn't been there long
Gallelli hasn't either


Howell wasn't going to get cut, he left to go back to BASS on legends exemption

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Originally Posted by avid_basser
Randy Howell, is going to BASS to help support his son Laker.

He will be fishing the Elites next year, his son is still in the opens. You may have him mixed up with Beau Browning.

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Originally Posted by SC-001
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Randy Howell, is going to BASS to help support his son Laker.

He will be fishing the Elites next year, his son is still in the opens. You may have him mixed up with Beau Browning.



Beau Browning has mentioned on a couple of podcasts and couple of weeks ago that his Dad would ve fishing the Opens.

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not returning
Randy Howell
Jonathon VanDam
Matthew Stefan
Stephen Browning
Cliff Crochet
Jason Vance
John Murray
Grae Buck
Matt Lee
Ryan Salzman
Kelly Jordon
Scott Suggs
Boyd Duckett
Jacopo Gallelli
Colby Schrumpf
Joshua Weaver
James Watson


This bunch with the exception of Stefan should have been cut years ago regardless of the field size.

Really?
Howell has been decent
Buck hasn't been there long
Gallelli hasn't either


Howell wasn't going to get cut, he left to go back to BASS on legends exemption


I am aware of that. I was responding to the stupid comment that all of them should have been cut years ago

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So who were the ones in the cut that left just Howell and VanDam? It was reported more were quitting than just 2.

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So who were the ones in the cut that left just Howell and VanDam? It was reported more were quitting than just 2.

Matthew Stefan
Stephen Browning
Cliff Crochet
Jason Vance
John Murray
Grae Buck
Matt Lee


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So who were the ones in the cut that left just Howell and VanDam? It was reported more were quitting than just 2.

Matthew Stefan
Stephen Browning
Cliff Crochet
Jason Vance
John Murray
Grae Buck
Matt Lee

Stefan said he didn't make the cut based on AOY average, guessing same situation for the rest other than maybe Browning, he seemed to to well in the format over the years.

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So who were the ones in the cut that left just Howell and VanDam? It was reported more were quitting than just 2.

Matthew Stefan
Stephen Browning
Cliff Crochet
Jason Vance
John Murray
Grae Buck
Matt Lee

Stefan said he didn't make the cut based on AOY average, guessing same situation for the rest other than maybe Browning, he seemed to to will in the format over the years.

Stefan said that before the cut came. Five below him are in.


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Originally Posted by SC-001
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So who were the ones in the cut that left just Howell and VanDam? It was reported more were quitting than just 2.

Matthew Stefan
Stephen Browning
Cliff Crochet
Jason Vance
John Murray
Grae Buck
Matt Lee

Stefan said he didn't make the cut based on AOY average, guessing same situation for the rest other than maybe Browning, he seemed to to will in the format over the years.



He also said that he never got a call inviting him back after others declined. He's gonna fish the Opens next year.

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So who were the ones in the cut that left just Howell and VanDam? It was reported more were quitting than just 2.

Matthew Stefan
Stephen Browning
Cliff Crochet
Jason Vance
John Murray
Grae Buck
Matt Lee

Stefan said he didn't make the cut based on AOY average, guessing same situation for the rest other than maybe Browning, he seemed to to will in the format over the years.

Stefan said that before the cut came. Five below him are in.


Your just looking at the 2024 AOY standings correct? that's not the liftetime BPT AOY average factored in, rookies didn't have the luxury to fall back on that average.

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I believe if Stefan had been 1 place higher in the 2024 AOY he would have got invite back, he missed that by 2.5 points. 56th place out of 79 guys is not that great and probably deserving of being cut but I will say if they are wanting personalities and brands they are missing out big on not keeping him.

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