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BPT banning FFS, is it true? #15138353 07/23/24 01:05 AM
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Per chatter at ICAST, surprised Randy hasn't posted about this yet.

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They would never do that to Wheeler and Connell

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Well think of the Fans they would draw in all the no love FFS people that currently hate BPT... Those people will now like BPT and now hate BASS. And those currently hate the format now will start saying the format is awesome. And no more #FBD hats, instead #XFFS. And what will TFF do with the reduced amount of posts about anglers that are only good because of FFS. i mean it would be a downward spiral for the fishing community.

I dunno just my thoughts.

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What will the excuse be when the olds still get their @ss kicked

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Originally Posted by tmd11111
What will the excuse be when the olds still get their @ss kicked

Side scan is not as good as it used to be? Haha


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I hope they ban it and the ‘yutes proceed to beat their grumpy old butts. Kick out the unproductive and bring in fresh guys. Legends exemptions are stupid.

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Originally Posted by tmd11111
What will the excuse be when the olds still get their @ss kicked


Family commitments, they can't practice as much..... they evidently want to limit that too. Whatever it takes to keep the young guys out and the bait sale going is what they will try and push. It's shameful behavior. They have ducked getting a real job most of their lives and damn sure don't want one now.

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The olds would be better off doing you tube stuff but they can't figure out how to load beta max tapes onto the net.........

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Originally Posted by WAWI
The olds would be better off doing you tube stuff but they can't figure out how to load beta max tapes onto the net.........


I use duct tape on my net..................... roflmao

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I think it would be good to have a non FFS tour and a FFS tour, kinda surprised NPFL hasn't gone this direction, I don't believe they are getting subsidized by the sonar companies like BASS and MLF are. If the big sonar players are pulling back on MLF sponsorship this could be a trigger for this to happen.

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Originally Posted by Lone_Wolf
I think it would be good to have a non FFS tour and a FFS tour, kinda surprised NPFL hasn't gone this direction, I don't believe they are getting subsidized by the sonar companies like BASS and MLF are. If the big sonar players are pulling back on MLF sponsorship this could be a trigger for this to happen.


What they need is a legends tour..... so the old guys can just watch that and shut up about what the other tours do.

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Originally Posted by WAWI
Originally Posted by Lone_Wolf
I think it would be good to have a non FFS tour and a FFS tour, kinda surprised NPFL hasn't gone this direction, I don't believe they are getting subsidized by the sonar companies like BASS and MLF are. If the big sonar players are pulling back on MLF sponsorship this could be a trigger for this to happen.


What they need is a legends tour..... so the old guys can just watch that and shut up about what the other tours do.

The sponsor line up would be great. The “Aleve” heavy hitter on Lake Fork presented by Depends. Really work those sponsors in- “yeah my power poles stuck great in that mud thanks to the Viagra wrapped skeeter”.

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Originally Posted by grandbassslayer
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I think it would be good to have a non FFS tour and a FFS tour, kinda surprised NPFL hasn't gone this direction, I don't believe they are getting subsidized by the sonar companies like BASS and MLF are. If the big sonar players are pulling back on MLF sponsorship this could be a trigger for this to happen.


What they need is a legends tour..... so the old guys can just watch that and shut up about what the other tours do.

The sponsor line up would be great. The “Aleve” heavy hitter on Lake Fork presented by Depends. Really work those sponsors in- “yeah my power poles stuck great in that mud thanks to the Viagra wrapped skeeter”.

"I could have never won this without using my Centrium Silver daily vitamin. Also, be sure to check out my Dr. Scholl's signature series footwear inserts!"

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Originally Posted by wabash2015
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I think it would be good to have a non FFS tour and a FFS tour, kinda surprised NPFL hasn't gone this direction, I don't believe they are getting subsidized by the sonar companies like BASS and MLF are. If the big sonar players are pulling back on MLF sponsorship this could be a trigger for this to happen.


What they need is a legends tour..... so the old guys can just watch that and shut up about what the other tours do.

The sponsor line up would be great. The “Aleve” heavy hitter on Lake Fork presented by Depends. Really work those sponsors in- “yeah my power poles stuck great in that mud thanks to the Viagra wrapped skeeter”.

"I could have never won this without using my Centrium Silver daily vitamin. Also, be sure to check out my Dr. Scholl's signature series footwear inserts!"


They will need lots of camera men because they cant work a chestie and nokia clip on phones didnt have cameras

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Is anyone here on this thread involved with or work for one of the big 3 sonar companies?

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Well think of the Fans they would draw in all the no love FFS people that currently hate BPT... Those people will now like BPT and now hate BASS. And those currently hate the format now will start saying the format is awesome. And no more #FBD hats, instead #XFFS. And what will TFF do with the reduced amount of posts about anglers that are only good because of FFS. i mean it would be a downward spiral for the fishing community.

I dunno just my thoughts.


Nah, the hate for MLF runs deep...

It would be suicide to ban FFS... I don't and will never have it and could care less if anyone else has it either... And yes I fish tournaments... Dan


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It would be suicide to ban FFS...


hmmm would it? I think you underestimate how many see it as cheating, and I'm not just talking about those in the trenches of the industry, I'm talking about the general public.

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It would be suicide to ban FFS...


hmmm would it? I think you underestimate how many see it as cheating, and I'm not just talking about those in the trenches of the industry, I'm talking about the general public.


General public is irrelevant. Their fan base is what matters and they need fresh blood as the anti FFS is slowly dying off of old age.

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Originally Posted by Lone_Wolf
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It would be suicide to ban FFS...


hmmm would it? I think you underestimate how many see it as cheating, and I'm not just talking about those in the trenches of the industry, I'm talking about the general public.

The general public doesn’t fish and if you don’t own ffs then you aren’t educated enough to understand.

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Originally Posted by grandbassslayer
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It would be suicide to ban FFS...


hmmm would it? I think you underestimate how many see it as cheating, and I'm not just talking about those in the trenches of the industry, I'm talking about the general public.

The general public doesn’t fish and if you don’t own ffs then you aren’t educated enough to understand.

^^^^^^ this

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I think a legends tour would be awesome. Put them on some of the best lakes do 5-6 tournaments a year keep it a 30-40 person event, fish 3 days, mic them all and have as much coverage as you can plus only allow technology up to 2012 or something. Keep them in their old school element. Bring Denny, Larry, Roland, etc.

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Originally Posted by Skeeterbug 1
I think a legends tour would be awesome. Put them on some of the best lakes do 5-6 tournaments a year keep it a 30-40 person event, fish 3 days, mic them all and have as much coverage as you can plus only allow technology up to 2012 or something. Keep them in their old school element. Bring Denny, Larry, Roland, etc.


I don't think it's a terrible idea, follow the spawn, easiest lakes you can find. Just remember you aren't watching the best. You are watching exhibition

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Originally Posted by Skeeterbug 1
I think a legends tour would be awesome. Put them on some of the best lakes do 5-6 tournaments a year keep it a 30-40 person event, fish 3 days, mic them all and have as much coverage as you can plus only allow technology up to 2012 or something. Keep them in their old school element. Bring Denny, Larry, Roland, etc.

They could take 30 minute breaks throughout the day. Trailer to ramps close to where they are fishing.


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Originally Posted by WAWI
Originally Posted by Skeeterbug 1
I think a legends tour would be awesome. Put them on some of the best lakes do 5-6 tournaments a year keep it a 30-40 person event, fish 3 days, mic them all and have as much coverage as you can plus only allow technology up to 2012 or something. Keep them in their old school element. Bring Denny, Larry, Roland, etc.


I don't think it's a terrible idea, follow the spawn, easiest lakes you can find. Just remember you aren't watching the best. You are watching exhibition


Think they could find 30-40 "legends" that would have any interest in doing that? The money would have to be right to get those guys back on the road even if only for 5-6 events.


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Originally Posted by Chris B
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I think a legends tour would be awesome. Put them on some of the best lakes do 5-6 tournaments a year keep it a 30-40 person event, fish 3 days, mic them all and have as much coverage as you can plus only allow technology up to 2012 or something. Keep them in their old school element. Bring Denny, Larry, Roland, etc.

They could take 30 minute breaks throughout the day. Trailer to ramps close to where they are fishing.


Are there any Lubys left, they could hold wiegh in in Lubys parking lot .....

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I think a legends tour would be awesome. Put them on some of the best lakes do 5-6 tournaments a year keep it a 30-40 person event, fish 3 days, mic them all and have as much coverage as you can plus only allow technology up to 2012 or something. Keep them in their old school element. Bring Denny, Larry, Roland, etc.

They could take 30 minute breaks throughout the day. Trailer to ramps close to where they are fishing.


Are there any Lubys left, they could hold wiegh in in Lubys parking lot .....


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Originally Posted by Chris B
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I think a legends tour would be awesome. Put them on some of the best lakes do 5-6 tournaments a year keep it a 30-40 person event, fish 3 days, mic them all and have as much coverage as you can plus only allow technology up to 2012 or something. Keep them in their old school element. Bring Denny, Larry, Roland, etc.

They could take 30 minute breaks naps throughout the day. Trailer to ramps close to where they are fishing.


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Originally Posted by grandbassslayer
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It would be suicide to ban FFS...


hmmm would it? I think you underestimate how many see it as cheating, and I'm not just talking about those in the trenches of the industry, I'm talking about the general public.

The general public doesn’t fish and if you don’t own ffs then you aren’t educated enough to understand.

For sure.

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I don’t fish tournaments but I do fish 30 or so weekends a year, mostly just looking for one big bite. With that said I have always watched the pro tours when I have a chance, I’m not a FFS hater and I do have a couple of them on different boats but I will say watching FFS tournaments are not interesting to me, I’d rather see several different techniques being used rather than everyone throwing a sonar minnow on a fairy wand. Also don’t care who wins or how old they are, I liked the MLF Cups, no idea where they were going and no practice, basically the same type fishing I do.

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Originally Posted by Skeeterbug 1
I think a legends tour would be awesome...


Where's all this money going to come from... We've heard people complain that the payouts are the same as they were 20 years ago... I doubt sponsors are just going to throw money at a trail because Jimmy, Roland, Denny, Larry and Moe wanna make a comeback... We've got what we got... Dan


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Originally Posted by Dan21XRS
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I think a legends tour would be awesome...


Where's all this money going to come from... We've heard people complain that the payouts are the same as they were 20 years ago... I doubt sponsors are just going to throw money at a trail because Jimmy, Roland, Denny, Larry and Moe wanna make a comeback... We've got what we got... Dan


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I don’t fish tournaments but I do fish 30 or so weekends a year, mostly just looking for one big bite. With that said I have always watched the pro tours when I have a chance, I’m not a FFS hater and I do have a couple of them on different boats but I will say watching FFS tournaments are not interesting to me, I’d rather see several different techniques being used rather than everyone throwing a sonar minnow on a fairy wand. Also don’t care who wins or how old they are, I liked the MLF Cups, no idea where they were going and no practice, basically the same type fishing I do.


When MLF started those events were great TV, I cannot believe they ditched the Cups for that stupid Teams series. If they want to do a team series on the side fine but don't kill your best product hammer

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... All the bait companies who are mad nobody is using anything but little swim baits and fuzzy dice.


All bait companies are making little swim baits and fuzzy dice... Dan


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... All the bait companies who are mad nobody is using anything but little swim baits and fuzzy dice.


All bait companies are making little swim baits and fuzzy dice... Dan


$5 for a bag of plastics or $20 for a crankbait, which one do you think has better margins.

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... All the bait companies who are mad nobody is using anything but little swim baits and fuzzy dice.


All bait companies are making little swim baits and fuzzy dice... Dan


$5 for a bag of plastics or $20 for a crankbait, which one do you think has better margins.

Every bait company out there now has multiple versions of a little minner. Pro bass fishing is starting to look like crappie fishing, jigheads and little plastics.

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... All the bait companies who are mad nobody is using anything but little swim baits and fuzzy dice.


All bait companies are making little swim baits and fuzzy dice... Dan


$5 for a bag of plastics or $20 for a crankbait, which one do you think has better margins.


And they will lose the crankbait in a deep tree in an hour lol

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Originally Posted by grandbassslayer
... The general public doesn’t fish and if you don’t own ffs then you aren’t educated enough to understand.


The general public doesn't know anything about "assault rifles"either but they all have an opinion on them...

Originally Posted by tmd11111
... $5 for a bag of plastics or $20 for a crankbait, which one do you think has better margins.


I'd bet it's comparable... How many $5 bags of plastic can they turn out in an hour compared to how many $20 crankbaits in an hour... Once the plastic is injected or poured they're bagged and boxed ready for shipping. With the crankbait it's gotta be molded/ carved hand or machine, then painted, have split rings and hook attached, packaged... More labor intensive, and labor cost a lot of money these days... Plus the younger generation is using FFS and replacing that $20 crankbait with a .75 plastic bait... Easier to throw that 1/4oz jig head and minnow than that deep diving crankbait all day also... Dan


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Re: BPT banning FFS, is it true? [Re: Dan21XRS] #15140248 07/24/24 07:10 PM
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Who was the MLF Invitationals angler who said it could be outright banned?

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